Ireland Team Talk X: The Long Hard Road to a Semi. MOD WARNING POSTS #1, #1474, #5707

MarinersBlues

Wegians89 wrote: »

The one against Cardiff I think? Inside his own 22 to Matt Healy, judged the wind to perfection

I cant find the clip! :rolleyes:
It was practically on the try line and relieved a load of pressure.

He had LOADS this year but the highlight videos are not living up to their billing! :pac::pac:

I am restricting myself to the last season but if you go back he has always had the crossfield in his arsenal.

Wegians89

MarinersBlues wrote: »

I cant find the clip! :rolleyes:
It was practically on the try line and relieved a load of pressure.

He had LOADS this year but the highlight videos are not living up to their billing! :pac::pac:

I am restricting myself to the last season but if you go back he has always had the crossfield in his arsenal.

https://youtu.be/fduaf9oXteA

2:45 into this.

hahashake

Seems crazy to me that there are players on both sides playing for a plane ticket to Japan but it should make it an exciting game.

Shefwedfan

MarinersBlues wrote: »

I cant find the clip! :rolleyes:
It was practically on the try line and relieved a load of pressure.

He had LOADS this year but the highlight videos are not living up to their billing! :pac::pac:

I am restricting myself to the last season but if you go back he has always had the crossfield in his arsenal.

Based on the reviews here Carty is the new Dan Carter, even better. Sure we don’t need Sexton at all this World Cup..... :-) now I am joking but seriously people, you are posting video of him in pro 14 which I think everyone can admit isn’t the highest of quality

I will just hold my decision till after today, he is playing against a second string wales team, if he as good as everyone is saying he should rip wales apart today

Wegians89

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Based on the reviews here Carty is the new Dan Carter, even better. Sure we don’t need Sexton at all this World Cup..... :-) now I am joking but seriously people, you are posting video of him in pro 14 which I think everyone can admit isn’t the highest of quality

I will just hold my decision till after today, he is playing against a second string wales team, if he as good as everyone is saying he should rip wales apart today

Don’t think anyone is saying he’s dan carter or better than Sexton. He’s had a better season than bryne, we’re talking about competition for third choice ten after all

salmocab

Is this provincial Mickey waving going to continue for much longer?

MarinersBlues

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Based on the reviews here Carty is the new Dan Carter, even better. Sure we don’t need Sexton at all this World Cup..... :-) now I am joking but seriously people, you are posting video of him in pro 14 which I think everyone can admit isn’t the highest of quality

I will just hold my decision till after today, he is playing against a second string wales team, if he as good as everyone is saying he should rip wales apart today

There are a lot of opinions on Carty that are just not accurate.
There is a tendency for people to make lazy assessments based on his form from years ago.
I am just trying to put forward a evidence based arguement that he has rounded out his skill set and is a very influential player.

I think he should be in the Irish squad and hope that he shows his best today.
With Sextons current form and Carberry's injury there is every chance he will be playing games in the world cup and once given a few starts can show his quality.

Also my body clock is expecting some Pro14 games around now and the vidoes are satisfying that.
(I also LOVE that clip of the conversion against Wasps and will post it whenever I can)

MarinersBlues

salmocab wrote: »

Is this provincial Mickey waving going to continue for much longer?

No - we just won it.

Wegians89

salmocab wrote: »

Is this provincial Mickey waving going to continue for much longer?

As long as there are provinces, it’ll continue.

razorblunt

salmocab wrote: »

Is this provincial Mickey waving going to continue for much longer?

Depends on when boards shuts down.

ionadnapokot

Wegians89 wrote: »

Really looking forward to seeing Addison at 15 today also think stocktake will be back with a bang

What are you looking for in particular?
It'll be interesting to see how he plays the role - RobK MarkII style or more line breaking type. Maybe he might even pop up at first receiver?
Personally would have preferred Larmour or Conway get a start at 15

Wegians89

ionadnapokot wrote: »

What are you looking for in particular?
It'll be interesting to see how he plays the role - RobK MarkII style or more line breaking type. Maybe he might even pop up at first receiver?
Personally would have preferred Larmour or Conway get a start at 15

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Genuinely, just looking for any alternative for Kearny. Need depth there. But think Addison could offer more of a line breaking threat and be a bit more creative.

Shefwedfan

Wegians89 wrote: »

Don’t think anyone is saying he’s dan carter or better than Sexton. He’s had a better season than bryne, we’re talking about competition for third choice ten after all

I did try to stay away from comparisons

Byrne played the majority of pro 14 games including a semi, which his team won and Leinster had a home semi booked in feb wasn’t it

He started I think 50% of group games in heneiken and a qtr final....not losing a game...

Not sure how Carty would claim to have a better season than that?

Anyway onwards, can’t wait for kick off

Shefwedfan

ionadnapokot wrote: »

What are you looking for in particular?
It'll be interesting to see how he plays the role - RobK MarkII style or more line breaking type. Maybe he might even pop up at first receiver?
Personally would have preferred Larmour or Conway get a start at 15

R Kearney did pop up at first receiver at start of England game, it all went to pot then

Could’ve a new tactic and Addison would be a good option

Wegians89

Shefwedfan wrote: »

I did try to stay away from comparisons

Byrne played the majority of pro 14 games including a semi, which his team won and well in front of other clubs

He started I think 50% of group games in heneiken and a qtr final....not losing a game...

Not sure how Carty would claim to have a better season than that?

Anyway onwards, can’t wait for kick off

As you said Byrne played most pro 14 games but carty made the team of the season in that competition, the only competition they both played in, so the only one you can compare in. Connacht aren’t as good as Leinster, simple fact so comparing Heineken to challenge cups is pointless. Carty also won the supporters player of the year? Correct me if that’s wrong but he won another individual award and was nominated for players player. Don’t want to be constantly comparing them but carty literally had a better season and that can’t really be argued.

And for the record I think Byrnes style is better suited to Ireland under Schmidt, I just don’t think he’s test level ATM.

shootermacg

Shefwedfan wrote: »

I did try to stay away from comparisons

That's not like you, you're to be found on the other teams' forums doing just that and it would seem that other players just don't compare to your beloved Leinster.

ionadnapokot

Wegians89 wrote: »

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Genuinely, just looking for any alternative for Kearny. Need depth there. But think Addison could offer more of a line breaking threat and be a bit more creative.

ok. Yea need a good backup.
will need to do all the basics vwell of course. do you know is he good under the high ball?
https://www.bbc.com/sport/rugby-union/47114478
Would still prefer Larmour and Conway to get picked in RWC squad (& start at 15 v Wales). But i fear for Larmour if Addison lights it up today.

Wegians89

ionadnapokot wrote: »

ok. Yea need a good backup.
will need to do all the basics vwell of course. do you know is he good under the high ball?
https://www.bbc.com/sport/rugby-union/47114478
Would still prefer Larmour and Conway to get picked in RWC squad (& start at 15 v Wales). But i fear for Larmour if Addison lights it up today.

Think it’ll be very interesting to see how decisions go between larmour, Addison, Conway and Farrell/henshaw(injury?)

Shefwedfan

Wegians89 wrote: »

As you said Byrne played most pro 14 games but carty made the team of the season in that competition, the only competition they both played in, so the only one you can compare in. Connacht aren’t as good as Leinster, simple fact so comparing Heineken to challenge cups is pointless. Carty also won the supporters player of the year? Correct me if that’s wrong but he won another individual award and was nominated for players player. Don’t want to be constantly comparing them but carty literally had a better season and that can’t really be argued.

And for the record I think Byrnes style is better suited to Ireland under Schmidt, I just don’t think he’s test level ATM.

The team of the season that had 1 Leinster and 1 Glasgow player on it even though both teams played in final and where the best teams all season

Yes excellent point of reference :-)

As I said a number of times I hope Carty does well but let’s give him the plaudits he hopefully deserves after the game

ionadnapokot

Wegians89 wrote: »

Think it’ll be very interesting to see how decisions go between larmour, Addison, Conway and Farrell/henshaw(injury?)

dont know what the hell is happening with Henshaw. worrying

But it looks like Joe thinks of Addison as the first backup at FB now.

shootermacg

ionadnapokot wrote: »

dont know what the hell is happening with Henshaw. worrying

But it looks like Joe thinks of Addison as the first backup at FB now.

Definitely worrying for sure. I'd think he'd have been penned down for this game. I hope it's just niggles.

JJJackal

Addison is a great utility back. Can cover alot of positions.

Nigzcurran

Feck the provinces, come on Ireland!!

salmocab

MarinersBlues wrote: »

No - we just won it.

That’s the problem with Mickey waving, people think they won when really the poor fools that seen it realized that everyone in it was a loser.

ionadnapokot

shootermacg wrote: »

ionadnapokot wrote: »

dont know what the hell is happening with Henshaw. worrying

But it looks like Joe thinks of Addison as the first backup at FB now.

Definitely worrying for sure. I'd think he'd have been penned down for this game. I hope it's just niggles.

Was reading about”Gronk” retirement from Patriots. His last injury was a dead leg in Super Bowl. Reads vlike a similar deep tissue injury that Henshaw had. Sore!
Henshaw has had allot of injuries over the last 2 years - durability has to be a concern.

shootermacg

ionadnapokot wrote: »

Was reading about”Gronk” retirement from Patriots. His last injury was a dead leg in Super Bowl. Reads vlike a similar deep tissue injury that Henshaw had. Sore!
Henshaw has had allot of injuries over the last 2 years - durability has to be a concern.

I was hoping for a Henshaw and Farrell start, hopefully they both make it to thew WC.

FrancieBrady

Who is showing this folks?

shootermacg

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Who is showing this folks?

Channel 4, I think, coverage starting at 2pm

dublinman1990

Joe Schmidt will have something to say about this match very soon on C4.

MarinersBlues

salmocab wrote: »

MarinersBlues wrote: »

No - we just won it.

That’s the problem with Mickey waving, people think they won when really the poor fools that seen it realized that everyone in it was a loser.

Your assessment of my mickey is analogous with many people's assessment of Carty.
You haven't really seen it in action and are assuming that it may not be all that special.

My response to that is similarly analogous. Once you see it in action you'll be surprised and impressed. Also it's better than Ross Byrnes.

kuang1

MarinersBlues wrote: »

Your assessment of my mickey is analogous with many people's assessment of Carty.

Not even a capital "M"?
Firstly, one should always believe in one's self.

Tikki Wang Wang

Wales by 17

dublinman1990

Are the Irish team wearing the white jerseys with the black sleeves today?

dublinman1990

The commentators on C4 today are Miles Harrison, Shane Williams & Jamie Heaslip.

LuckyLloyd

Conway a bright spot the last few weeks. Has to be on the plane.

errlloyd

This game has no continuity.

Bazzo

Carty is a ****ing baller

Clegg

Our front five were great for the first fifty. Wales had more ball and territory, but it was on our terms for the most part. We handled them well when they had the ball. James Ryan is a monster and once he perfects his lineout game he'll be the best lock in the world. I'm totally convinced of that.

But I'm really worried about our backrow. don't think any backrower has impressed in these warm ups. PoM, Beirne and Conan were all meh. Stander was frankly crap last weekend too. PoM needed a big game today and he didn't deliver. VdF has been the best performer so far, but that's solely due to his workrate which is expected anyway. Nobody has stood up demanding selection for the Scotland game.

Zzippy

I presume the "Is Carty really any good?" argument has now been settled...?

kingofthekong

Starting xv all fit for Quarter final would be:

1. Kilkoyne
2. Best
3. Furlong
4. Ryan
5. Toner
6. Henderson
7. VDF
8. Pffff nobody deserves it....
9. Marmion
10. Sexton
11. Stockdale
12. Henshaw
13. Ringrose
14. Earls
15. Kearney

AbusesToilets

For next week/ Scotland

Healy, Best Furlong

Toner Ryan

Ruddock Vdf Conan

Marmion Sexton

Henshaw Ringrose

Stockdale Kearney Earl

Kilcoyne
Cronin
Porter
Henderson
Murphy
Murray
Carty
Addison

Faugheen

On what planet is Kilcoyne ahead of Healy?

Killer put himself on the plane today without a doubt with a great performance, but let’s relax a little bit there.

Clegg

Healy has been Ireland's best performer in 2019. Can't start any big game without him. Henderson isn't a blindside either. Other than that your side is probably correct. I'd like Scannell and Conan to take up the hooker and number 8 positions, but their performances this series haven't propelled them.oast the incumbents so far.

Former Former

Zzippy wrote: »

I presume the "Is Carty really any good?" argument has now been settled...?

Not for me.

Better than Ross Byrne, yes. Test quality out half? Still not seeing it.

Someone above said he's now ahead of Carbery. That's madness.

Wegians89

There’s no way marmion is ahead of Murray, sorry just not gonna happen

PTH2009

Is the WC squad been named next week ???

If we dont get our heads right than the Scotland game is even more of a daunting prospect. A loss will add so much pressure going into a must must win game against the hosts. Tbh 2 defeats and were out and the Russia/Samoa games will only be for pride.

Japan dont look that bad and national pride will give them heart

thomond2006

PTH2009 wrote: »

Is the WC squad been named next week ???

If we dont get our heads right than the Scotland game is even more of a daunting prospect. A loss will add so much pressure going into a must must win game against the hosts. Tbh 2 defeats and were out and the Russia/Samoa games will only be for pride.

Japan dont look that bad and national pride will give them heart

Go. To. Your. Local. Bookmakers.

It's not going to happen. We'll be fine.

kuang1

thomond2006 wrote: »

Go. To. Your. Local. Bookmakers.

You should put PTH in the same category as rugbylad.
I did a long time ago.

thomond2006

kuang1 wrote: »

You should put PTH in the same category as rugbylad.
I did a long time ago.

Ah PTH isn't in it for cash.

Zzippy

Former Former wrote: »

Not for me.

Better than Ross Byrne, yes. Test quality out half? Still not seeing it.

Someone above said he's now ahead of Carbery. That's madness.

Well MOTM in a test match suggests he is. Agree on Carbery, hope he's fit in time