British Racing Cancelled due to Equine Flu

RivetingRoger

posturingpat wrote: »

You should work for a tabloid :rolleyes:

Because i am taking lines from the irish field and RP and posting them on a racing forum???

Sound

HarshOstrich

Raise a spark is the horse in question, they say the flu can be spread through humans to horses, worth noting Brian Hughes(raise a spark jockey) rode the next two races on Irish horses for different stables,I hope they never got brought back to there yards.

The Mig

The irish horses were stopped from going back to their yards I think and kept in isolation

posturingpat

RivetingRoger wrote: »

Because i am taking lines from the irish field and RP and posting them on a racing forum???

Sound

Very very bad my hole. It's not good news but hardly unexpected.
Hopefully they contain it and we'll be back racing in a week or so.

RivetingRoger

posturingpat wrote: »

Very very bad my hole. It's not good news but hardly unexpected.
Hopefully they contain it and we'll be back racing in a week or so.

I sincerely hope you are right

ya auld bolix

HarshOstrich

Had a quick look through the wolves and Newcastle cards for this potential other yard and didn’t look too closely but only trainers I spotted at both cards where Richard fahey and David griffiths.
Money is it’s griffiths yard as they ran bad although where not fancied.

posturingpat

RivetingRoger wrote: »

I sincerely hope you are right

ya auld bolix

As long as Cheltenham is on I'm happy, didn't get over last year so itching to get to it this year more than ever.

RivetingRoger

So say we all Pat
I am getting fu*kall work done the last few days scouring twitter feeds for any info on this
(i work for myself from home)

People who don't love NH racing don't "get it"
Yesterday you had rte "sports journos" and newstalk presenters scoffing at this, wondering was equine flu as bad as man flu ha ha ha ha....
Drove me mad :mad:

Since Christmas once santy has come and gone all the NH fan can think about is the festival (ok maybe a slight exaggeration but ye get me)

Podcast, after AP bet, after NRNB bet, after scour of the RP .....

Then this sh*te hits!!!

lemush

posturingpat wrote: »

As long as Cheltenham is on I'm happy, didn't get over last year so itching to get to it this year more than ever.

It’s certainly a longer price now than it was this morning, pretty sure the worst has yet to come unfortunately.

Gavin "shels"

https://twitter.com/CorneliusRacing/status/1093882796823715840

https://twitter.com/SkyNewsBreak/status/1093884030007820288

Bye bye Cheltenham?

NaiveMelodies

RivetingRoger wrote: »

So say we all Pat
I am getting fu*kall work done the last few days scouring twitter feeds for any info on this
(i work for myself from home)

People who don't love NH racing don't "get it"
Yesterday you had rte "sports journos" and newstalk presenters scoffing at this, wondering was equine flu as bad as man flu ha ha ha ha....
Drove me mad :mad:

Since Christmas once santy has come and gone all the NH fan can think about is the festival (ok maybe a slight exaggeration but ye get me)

Podcast, after AP bet, after NRNB bet, after scour of the RP .....

Then this sh*te hits!!!

Ah you would ever stop sh*ting on like a child.
Wouldn't have us punters at top of any sympathy list ffs.

This could be devestating for people who actually rely on the industry to put food on their tables.

RivetingRoger

NaiveMelodies wrote: »

Ah you would ever stop sh*ting on like a child.
Wouldn't have us punters at top of any sympathy list ffs.

This could be devestating for people who actually rely on the industry to put food on their tables.

With all due respect to you, piss off
I love cheltenham, and if its cancelled i will be absolutely gutted
I am sorry if that offends your bloody sensibilities, oh High Moral one

WicklowBrave

No reason why Cheltenham can't go ahead with horses from yards not on lockdown. So basically all horses trained in Ireland and Coneygree and a few others from the UK. Not ideal but it certainly beats calling the whole thing off. This isn't like a foot and mouth situation, equine flu is endemic in Ireland and the UK. Just keep horses from the yards on lockdown away from Cheltenham.

HarshOstrich

WicklowBrave wrote: »

No reason why Cheltenham can't go ahead with horses from yards not on lockdown. So basically all horses trained in Ireland and Coneygree and a few others from the UK. Not ideal but it certainly beats calling the whole thing off. This isn't like a foot and mouth situation, equine flu is endemic in Ireland and the UK. Just keep horses from the yards on lockdown away from Cheltenham.

Why coneygree so special ?

WicklowBrave

HarshOstrich wrote: »

Why coneygree so special ?

Yard isn't on lockdown I read somewhere. Could be wrong?

WicklowBrave

Looks like what I said about no British trained winners at Cheltenham will be spot on.

What can I say? I predict these things.

RivetingRoger

Current odds from PP

Will the Cheltenham Festival start on the 12th March?
Yes

1/4
No

2/1


That's a big change from 1/10 this morning

WicklowBrave

RivetingRoger wrote: »

Current odds from PP

Will the Cheltenham Festival start on the 12th March?
Yes

1/4
No

2/1


That's a big change from 1/10 this morning

Might lump on the 2/1 to soften the blow of it getting called off.

Gavin "shels"

Gavin "shels" wrote: »

UK bookmakers saying they'll be down 25 million this weekend alone over this...

People will just gamble on something else. Don't believe that for a second.

Scott Tenorman

RivetingRoger wrote: »

So say we all Pat
I am getting fu*kall work done the last few days scouring twitter feeds for any info on this
(i work for myself from home)

People who don't love NH racing don't "get it"
Yesterday you had rte "sports journos" and newstalk presenters scoffing at this, wondering was equine flu as bad as man flu ha ha ha ha....
Drove me mad :mad:

Since Christmas once santy has come and gone all the NH fan can think about is the festival (ok maybe a slight exaggeration but ye get me)

Podcast, after AP bet, after NRNB bet, after scour of the RP .....

Then this sh*te hits!!!

Wow, amazingly it's not all about you

redarmy

Scott Tenorman wrote: »

Wow, amazingly it's not all about you

:rolleyes:

Scott Tenorman

redarmy wrote: »

:rolleyes:

:rolleyes::rolleyes:

BumperD

Some more perspectives. Offers hope

https://www.racingpost.com/news/equine-flu-outbreak/nigel-twiston-davies-slams-bha-for-massive-overreaction-to-flu-cases/365656

Earendil

For anyone just joining this thread...RivetingRover is a hysterical fanny and Scott Tenerman is still upset with Roger and he was slammed by him a couple of weeks back.

Scott Tenorman

Earendil wrote: »

For anyone just joining this thread...RivetingRover is a hysterical fanny and Scott Tenerman is still upset with Roger and he was slammed by him a couple of weeks back.

Upset lol. If you get upset by people on forums you shouldn’t be posting on them.

RivetingRoger

Earendil wrote: »

For anyone just joining this thread...RivetingRover is a hysterical fanny and Scott Tenerman is still upset with Roger and he was slammed by him a couple of weeks back.

This enormous woman will destroy us all.....jumps out window...

RivetingRoger

Earendil wrote: »

For anyone just joining this thread...RivetingRover is a hysterical fanny and Scott Tenerman is still upset with Roger and he was slammed by him a couple of weeks back.

Hysterical. ......check
Fanny......harsh 😅

ArmaniJeanss

WicklowBrave wrote: »

No reason why Cheltenham can't go ahead with horses from yards not on lockdown. So basically all horses trained in Ireland and Coneygree and a few others from the UK. Not ideal but it certainly beats calling the whole thing off. This isn't like a foot and mouth situation, equine flu is endemic in Ireland and the UK. Just keep horses from the yards on lockdown away from Cheltenham.

I thought humans could be carriers as well, so presumably you'd also need to 'ban' racing people who've been in contact with the yards that are on lockdown from going to Cheltenham. Trainers, staff, jockeys, vets, box-drivers, stewards, journalists?
It doesn't seem feasible really. Either UK racing gets the full all-clear or it doesn't, I can't see your half-clear idea being the solution.

WicklowBrave

ArmaniJeanss wrote: »

I thought humans could be carriers as well, so presumably you'd also need to 'ban' racing people who've been in contact with the yards that are on lockdown from going to Cheltenham. Trainers, staff, jockeys, vets, box-drivers, stewards, journalists?
It doesn't seem feasible really. Either UK racing gets the full all-clear or it doesn't, I can't see your half-clear idea being the solution.

Yeah, good point.

Reading the Racing Post piece with Nigel TD and the Newmarket vet, it does seem like the BHA are playing it extremely cautiously. The Newmarket vet tweeted out something like 'it's equine flu, not ebola' and saying theres no reason to stop racing and shut down so many yards and loads of trainers have retweeted it. The horses are vaccinated and equine flu is endemic in the UK so it probably isn't so much worse than when a horse gets a bug any other time. I'd say Cheltenham is a million to be called off.

Francie Barrett

Twiston Davies is on the money on this. By all means, it's correct for racing to take precautions, but to close everything down for a week is just reactionary.

irish_major

Francie Barrett wrote: »

Twiston Davies is on the money on this. By all means, it's correct for racing to take precautions, but to close everything down for a week is just reactionary.

Twiston davies is a ****ing idiot. To not close everything would have been incompetent and stupid.

Francie Barrett

irish_major wrote: »

Twiston davies is a ****ing idiot. To not close everything would have been incompetent and stupid.

I don't think he is that stupid. As he said, this is horse flu, not ebola.

They are constantly testing these horses, and any horses connected with suspected cases too. By all means, get the horses checked out, but I don't see any reason why racing has to go into lockdown in the interim.

HandsomeBob

Francie Barrett wrote: »

Twiston Davies is on the money on this. By all means, it's correct for racing to take precautions, but to close everything down for a week is just reactionary.

Sometimes overreaction is necessary. Can't blame the BHA for being thorough because they would have been crucified had they not been seen to take every measure to prevent a mass breakout.

IAMAMORON

I think the main bias for the shutdown is that it is foaling season since the 1st January. If foals get the flu they are in a tight spot, it could be fatal. Yes many yards segregate foals from their racers. The issue would be the flu being transmitted at all. Vets, staff who are mucking out etc can carry a new virus strain.

BumperD

ITV reported 700 test results so far. 0 have the flu.

RivetingRoger

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#Breaking BHA announces that “so far, other than the six at the yard of Donald McCain already identified, there have been no further positive samples returned” from 720 swabs tested to date for equine flu by the Animal Health Trust of the 2,100 received (1/2)

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These include swabs taken on horses from trainer Rebecca Menzies’ yard, with those tests due to be repeated (2/2)

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Caution from BHA's David Sykes: "I would advise against anyone drawing any conclusions or making any predictions based on this set of results. Our focus remains on containing the virus through the strict adherence to biosecurity measures we are seeing across the industry."

RivetingRoger

few positive sounds today

hope springs eternal

The Tetrarch

RivetingRoger wrote: »

few positive sounds today
hope springs eternal

You sent me looking for the poem - An Essay on Man by Alexander Pope

Hope springs eternal in the human breast:
Man never is, but always to be blest:
The soul, uneasy and confin'd from home,
Rests and expatiates in a life to come.


I like the last lines

All nature is but art, unknown to thee;
All chance, direction, which thou canst not see;
All discord, harmony, not understood;
All partial evil, universal good:
And, spite of pride, in erring reason's spite,
One truth is clear, Whatever is, is right.

BorneTobyWilde

https://www.bbc.com/sport/horse-racing/47193751


Seems racing is off

More positive results just in

Andrew00

Thought racing would be back this coming Wednesday but I’d say that’s unlikely now

Dr. Bre

4 new cases confirmed in Newmarket

WicklowBrave

British runners now allowed in Ireland. IHRB basically forcing BHA's hand here. British racing will be back by the weekend now you'd have to think.

RivetingRoger

WicklowBrave wrote: »

British runners now allowed in Ireland. IHRB basically forcing BHA's hand here. British racing will be back by the weekend now you'd have to think.

BHA making announcememt at 10.30 tonight. Expect good news

realdanbreen

WicklowBrave wrote: »

British runners now allowed in Ireland. IHRB basically forcing BHA's hand here. British racing will be back by the weekend now you'd have to think.

Seems a very strange decision to allow British horses over here at this stage!
As things stand they have an infected herd and we don't.

PM me nudes

realdanbreen wrote: »

Seems a very strange decision to allow British horses over here at this stage!
As things stand they have an infected herd and we don't.

It's 7 horses out of a tested... 2,000?

Also there was confirmed equine flu milling around Ireland a couple of weeks ago involving racehorses

RivetingRoger

realdanbreen wrote: »

Seems a very strange decision to allow British horses over here at this stage!
As things stand they have an infected herd and we don't.

We do....we just didn't shut down the industry because of it

RivetingRoger

BHA dragging the hole out of this now

Andrew00

Racing back on Wednesday BHA have announced. Let’s get ready to gamble

RivetingRoger

Aaaaaanndd we are back

Boooomm

CH3OH

The British Horseracing Authority has tonight announced a risk-managed return to racing will take place from Wednesday this week. Full statement to follow.