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Chernobyl - HBO/Sky *Spoilers*

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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I don't get the desire to go there


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,226 ✭✭✭Credit Checker Moose


    That was my experience 6 years ago. Things were very strict.

    Now times have changed. The tours are a huge money spinner for the Ukrainian government.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,226 ✭✭✭Credit Checker Moose


    I don't get the desire to go there
    The whole area is fascinating. I am thinking of revisiting the site soon.


  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 1,105 ✭✭✭Limpy


    The radiation was not to crazy when I was at the monument. Maybe because it is now fully covered.

    What you can do on the tour varies from guide to guide. The Ukrainians on the check points are very strick (as you can imagine). Our guide took us up to the roof of a apartment block, so we could see the whole of Pripyat and the reactor in the distance.


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,348 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    This is the sarcophagus in construction April 2013.
    0ecUDj9.jpg

    Is the construction automated or does it require labourers?


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  • Posts: 24,715 [Deleted User]


    lawred2 wrote: »
    Is the construction automated or does it require labourers?

    The safe confinement construction required construction crews from all around the world working hands on and driving machines but it was built on rails far enough away from the plant so as not to subject the workers to overly high radiation doses. It was then moved into place over the reactor building when finished.


  • Registered Users Posts: 20,417 ✭✭✭✭2smiggy


    another excellent episode, and a great way to finish the series.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,872 ✭✭✭Sittingpretty


    2smiggy wrote: »
    another excellent episode, and a great way to finish the series.

    Thought the finale was tonight? How are you seeing it early?


  • Registered Users Posts: 20,417 ✭✭✭✭2smiggy


    it was on sky Atlantic at 2 am last night, same time as the US premier.


  • Registered Users Posts: 552 ✭✭✭Carraig Fhearghais


    Thought the finale was tonight? How are you seeing it early?


    It is first shown at 2am on Sky Atlantic (similar to how GOT was broadcast)

    (edit) oops, typed too slow, 2smiggy got in first! :)


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,105 ✭✭✭Mundo7976


    Limpy wrote: »
    Some pics I took last year in Pripyat and Chernobyl.


    Excellent. Thanks for sharing.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,201 ✭✭✭TomSweeney


    Wow !!!
    What an episode , and a FANTASTIC tech explanation of what happened too!

    Jesus TOP TOP TOP TV!!!

    I wanna go back to Chernobyl now!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,201 ✭✭✭TomSweeney


    Limpy wrote: »
    The radiation was not to crazy when I was at the monument. Maybe because it is now fully covered.

    What you can do on the tour varies from guide to guide. The Ukrainians on the check points are very strick (as you can imagine). Our guide took us up to the roof of a apartment block, so we could see the whole of Pripyat and the reactor in the distance.


    Yes we did the same, we went into many building in Pripyat and surrounding villages, which strictly speaking you aren't supposed to as the buildings can be dangerous.


    Glad we went when we did, it's only a matter of time before some fat American breaks their ankle and sues ...
    Reckon all buildings will be strictly forbidden access soon..


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,033 ✭✭✭Unearthly


    Very emotional ending :(


  • Registered Users Posts: 20,417 ✭✭✭✭2smiggy


    was a bit drunk watching last night, so am looking forward to watching it again tonight. ya the ending was fairly emotional alright !!


  • Posts: 24,715 [Deleted User]


    I don't get the desire to go there

    Why do people want to go to the sites of any big historical event? Many far far worse than Chernobyl?

    I’ve a huge interest in the development of nuclear reactors (and weapons to some extent) from the very beginning up to today and I’ve read extensively about it and watched hours of documentaries (not just on chernobyl but it is a big part) so wanting to visit one of the most important locations in the history of the nuclear age is hardly unusual.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,810 ✭✭✭Hector Savage


    Christ I was nearly in tears at the ending.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,201 ✭✭✭TomSweeney


    Why do people want to go to the sites of any big historical event? Many far far worse than Chernobyl?

    I’ve a huge interest in the development of nuclear reactors (and weapons to some extent) from the very beginning up to today and I’ve read extensively about it and watched hours of documentaries (not just on chernobyl but it is a big part) so wanting to visit one of the most important locations in the history of the nuclear age is hardly unusual.


    Plus it's a time capsule into a totally different world, Soviet USSR , this is what attracted me to the trip in the first place.
    Documentaries, a book and this series has since sparked my interest in the actual disaster now.


    Oh yeah, and the whole abandoned photography opportunities!


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,007 ✭✭✭Shelga


    Very sobering and thought-provoking final episode.

    I don’t know about anyone else, but one effect I imagine this has had on a lot of people is to strengthen anti-nuclear feeling.

    I wasn’t against it before, but I would have to say I am now. I know RBMK reactors aren’t used in the west, but it just seems like there will always be some unexpected thing that no one planned for that could go wrong- look at Fukushima.

    One of the best shows I’ve seen in a long time!


  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 1,105 ✭✭✭Limpy


    TomSweeney wrote: »
    Yes we did the same, we went into many building in Pripyat and surrounding villages, which strictly speaking you aren't supposed to as the buildings can be dangerous.


    Glad we went when we did, it's only a matter of time before some fat American breaks their ankle and sues ...
    Reckon all buildings will be strictly forbidden access soon..


    Yes its restricted 100% and we had to watch out for military police. Our guide didn't just say go up there on your own, he led us up so obviously he knows the building well. The fact you have the the Gieger counter is good as you can keep an eye on the levels where you go.

    I was more interested in Pripyat then the Reactor. Just seeing time stand still. It was a town/city of the future, at least in Socialist terms. Its quite humbling seeing the names of families on the mail boxes in the apartments, knowing they never got to return, kids never got to play again in the theme park or on the football pitch. Friendships were broken, families split apart.
    I know that was the least of there worries in the aftermath. The men and women who lived in that town saved many lives when it happened, so to visit Pripyat in some way's was to share in there sorrow.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,201 ✭✭✭TomSweeney


    Shelga wrote: »
    Very sobering and thought-provoking final episode.

    I don’t know about anyone else, but one effect I imagine this has had on a lot of people is to strengthen anti-nuclear feeling.

    I wasn’t against it before, but I would have to say I am now. I know RBMK reactors aren’t used in the west, but it just seems like there will always be some unexpected thing that no one planned for that could go wrong- look at Fukushima.

    One of the best shows I’ve seen in a long time!


    What happened in Chernobyl coudn't happen in the west, for one thing all western nuclear power plants are in containment buildings.


    They don't use the positive void coefficient system to modify the reactions, and new Nuclear reactors using thorium are very safe, it's a "slower" reaction so meltdown practically impossible.


    But this was one of my worries of the series, that it would fire up irrational fears over the nuclear industry.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,007 ✭✭✭Shelga


    TomSweeney wrote: »
    But this was one of my worries of the series, that it would fire up irrational fears over the nuclear industry.

    Some fears are irrational, some are not. There are very real concerns about nuclear energy, for example storing the ~250,000 tonnes of nuclear waste that exists around the world.

    I don't think there's any harm in the TV show Chernobyl causing people to consider and research the pros and cons of it all. It's a very interesting and complex topic.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,047 ✭✭✭Jamiekelly


    Haven't seen it yet but judging by the reaction online and here on boards I better get to it soon.


  • Registered Users Posts: 18,138 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    Shelga wrote: »
    Some fears are irrational, some are not. There are very real concerns about nuclear energy, for example storing the ~250,000 tonnes of nuclear waste that exists around the world.

    I don't think there's any harm in the TV show Chernobyl causing people to consider and research the pros and cons of it all. It's a very interesting and complex topic.

    the next generation of nuclear reactors use this waste for fuel

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  • Posts: 24,715 [Deleted User]


    Shelga wrote: »
    Very sobering and thought-provoking final episode.

    I don’t know about anyone else, but one effect I imagine this has had on a lot of people is to strengthen anti-nuclear feeling.

    I wasn’t against it before, but I would have to say I am now. I know RBMK reactors aren’t used in the west, but it just seems like there will always be some unexpected thing that no one planned for that could go wrong- look at Fukushima.

    One of the best shows I’ve seen in a long time!

    As someone who is very pro-nuclear I really hope the show doesn't strengthen any anti-nuclear feeling. It was the one worry I had about the show as much as I was looking forward to it.

    The show does give the impression a lot more people died than actually did (in the aftermath in particular among liquidators) and I would be afraid this will result in generating far more fear than there should be from an extremely safe industry (safest way of generating electricity by a considerable distance).
    Shelga wrote: »
    Some fears are irrational, some are not. There are very real concerns about nuclear energy, for example storing the ~250,000 tonnes of nuclear waste that exists around the world.

    I don't think there's any harm in the TV show Chernobyl causing people to consider and research the pros and cons of it all. It's a very interesting and complex topic.

    Most of the fears are irrational (of western reactors, RMBKs were a disaster waiting to happen) and even the fears that are somewhat real are blown up massively in peoples minds.

    The problem is with people considering the pros and cons is they need to be informed on the topic in great detail to actually understand what they are considering and most people are not. I'm not an expert in that I do not have a qualification in nuclear physics (though I took some courses at undergrad level) but I am a physicist and so I can understand it at a very detailed level and have done considerable reading and research into it (albiet as a hobby rather than something I do as a day job).


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,447 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    The perfect ending to the perfect show.

    I was looking forward to this show for weeks, I was afraid that I might have had my hopes up too high and it would let me down. I am glad I was wrong.

    I'll probably write a longer post about what I loved about this show, but as of now I am beyond satisfied at how this went. It captured it all, and in just 5 episodes. Special mention to the soundtrack which really added to the theme so so much.

    Marvellous television.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,144 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    That ending...

    IMHO from the acting, script, pacing, direction, soundtrack and production design this series was one of the finest pieces of television drama I've ever seen.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Registered Users Posts: 26,458 ✭✭✭✭gandalf


    Agree totally with others, this is the best TV show in a long time. It's lasting effect is it gets you thinking. Perfect length, perfect pacing, great performances really brilliant sound track and sound effects. The sound really set this show apart as well and for that alone it should get a raft of awards.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,666 ✭✭✭✭klose


    The actor who plays Roose Bolton in got who also played the man in the court room has such a recognisable voice.

    Brilliant show and ending was just perfect, it's hard to fault any aspect of the show. I'll certainly rewatch it again soon.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 840 ✭✭✭peddlelies


    Don't generally re-watch TV series so soon but for this I need to make an exception


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