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Chernobyl - HBO/Sky *Spoilers*

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,140 ✭✭✭BobMc


    Just caught ep1 of the podcast too, great info and insight into the making and backstories etc. well worth a listen
    a change from breakfast radio in the car for a couple mornings


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,281 ✭✭✭CrankyHaus


    Itssoeasy wrote: »
    How is Anatoly Dyatlov depicted in the show ?

    Unsympathetically in Episode 1, where he is a bullying, arse covering, incompetant in denial about the scale of the disaster.

    However the prologue implies that he was subsequently unfairly scapegoated as fully responsible for what happened.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,810 ✭✭✭Hector Savage


    Itssoeasy wrote: »
    How is Anatoly Dyatlov depicted in the show ?

    For me similar as the book midnight in Chernobyl pretty arrogant and in denial.

    He had a son that died of Leukemia that looked like he picked up from exposure to radiation through his father at another plant in the USSR.
    He was in denial about the cause of that too.


  • Registered Users Posts: 232 ✭✭Big Game


    Excellent TV.

    For anyone that has in interest in the possibilities of what could happen in the event if a nuclear war, check out Threads. It's a 1980s BBC commissioned docudrama. It is as terrifying and sobering as any "horror" movie I've ever watched and I've watched a crap load of them. Its available through various other sources and Severin Films released it on blu ray last year.

    Haven't seen it since the 80s but had a huge impact on me watching it then, thought it was amazing.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,281 ✭✭✭CrankyHaus


    Big Game wrote: »
    Haven't seen it since the 80s but had a huge impact on me watching it then, thought it was amazing.

    Threads is great but I actually preferred The War Game from 1965. Withdrawn from TV by the BBC for 20 years as "too horrifying for the medium of broadcasting" it's both hard hitting and a good showcase of Peter Watkins' style of directing. You can get it on YouTube.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 13,648 ✭✭✭✭Dial Hard


    Jess Buckley being the only person in the entire cast doing a Ukrainian accent is just silly. I've no idea why the director allowed it.

    Also, anyone any idea why all three torches went out at the end??? Was it supposed to be related to the radiation or are we to believe it's just the world's biggest & worst coincidence?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,281 ✭✭✭CrankyHaus


    Dial Hard wrote: »
    Jess Buckley being the only person in the entire cast doing a Ukrainian accent is just silly. I've no idea why the director allowed it.

    Also, anyone any idea why all three torches went out at the end??? Was it supposed to be related to the radiation or are we to believe it's just the world's biggest & worst coincidence?

    As I understand it, very high levels of radiation distort electronics. I never heard about it with torches but certainly the robots later provided for clearing the roof all failed due to a lack of adequate shielding (requiring humans to be deployed at enormous risk)


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,121 ✭✭✭✭Jimmy Bottlehead


    CrankyHaus wrote: »
    As I understand it, very high levels of radiation distort electronics. I never heard about it with torches but certainly the robots later provided for clearing the roof all failed due to a lack of adequate shielding (requiring humans to be deployed at enormous risk)

    Yep, the high levels of radiation short electronics. The 'Battle of Chernobyl' documentary illustrated this through the robots mentioned above. Pretty sure that's also why the helicopter ended up crashing despite instructions to pull back, but I could be wrong. (EDIT: Seems I was, and that it was radiation poisoning that discombobulated the pilot)

    Really, really loving this series. Captures the horror of the situation very well, the casting, acting and sets are great. Another good job, HBO.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 840 ✭✭✭peddlelies


    Loving this so far, it's excellent.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,981 ✭✭✭✭bnt


    That point during the second episode when they were talking about the potential consequences of a much larger steam explosion ... seriously hair-raising. To talk about a steam explosion measured in megatons spewing radioactive material over whole countries had me going "oh sh-- oh sh-- oh sh--" like nothing else. Ukraine and Belarus are not small countries, and Chernobyl is almost at the centre of both.

    From out there on the moon, international politics look so petty. You want to grab a politician by the scruff of the neck and drag him a quarter of a million miles out and say, ‘Look at that, you son of a bitch’.

    — Edgar Mitchell, Apollo 14 Astronaut



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  • Posts: 24,715 [Deleted User]


    bnt wrote: »
    That point during the second episode when they were talking about the potential consequences of a much larger steam explosion ... seriously hair-raising. To talk about a steam explosion measured in megatons spewing radioactive material over whole countries had me going "oh sh-- oh sh-- oh sh--" like nothing else. Ukraine and Belarus are not small countries, and Chernobyl is almost at the centre of both.

    I’d be be a bit sceptical of the potential for an explosion that large, nothing I’ve read in the past on the accident made the potential steam explosion out to be something of that scale, very very bad yes but no where near that scale.

    Leaving reading about it aside my own feeling would be an explosion that large would not be possible from a steam explosion even if taking out the other reactors. Now it would have very very severe consequences and result is an absolutely massive radiation release but megatons of an explosions sounds too much to me.


  • Registered Users Posts: 82,299 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    M


    Watched the 2nd episode, liking it more now. I can't really do the wait for a week for the next episode though so I'm going to wait until the next 3 are done and watch them back to back.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


    I'd recommend not googling the explosion thing.
    After googling, there's a youtube video of one of the soviets saying it was said by the people (the science people i think) at the time so I reckon it's just another reason many people are going to die.

    ... which from the directors commentary I've seen.. is one of the main plot arcs you can spoil on yourself.


  • Registered Users Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    I’d be be a bit sceptical of the potential for an explosion that large, nothing I’ve read in the past on the accident made the potential steam explosion out to be something of that scale, very very bad yes but no where near that scale.

    Leaving reading about it aside my own feeling would be an explosion that large would not be possible from a steam explosion even if taking out the other reactors. Now it would have very very severe consequences and result is an absolutely massive radiation release but megatons of an explosions sounds too much to me.
    Probably a good deal too high but maybe it was a guesstimate. Good episode all the same, definitely some dramatic licence in there at times but it works.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,474 ✭✭✭valoren


    I’d be be a bit sceptical of the potential for an explosion that large, nothing I’ve read in the past on the accident made the potential steam explosion out to be something of that scale, very very bad yes but no where near that scale.

    Leaving reading about it aside my own feeling would be an explosion that large would not be possible from a steam explosion even if taking out the other reactors. Now it would have very very severe consequences and result is an absolutely massive radiation release but megatons of an explosions sounds too much to me.

    I loved the dichotomy between the autocrats attitude of it being a case of "nothing to see here, just a fire that's all" and the scientific consensus of continental Armageddon. Better to take the nuclear option, pardon the pun, to convince people of the seriousness of the situation I guess.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,226 ✭✭✭Credit Checker Moose


    No new ep this week?


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,785 ✭✭✭Greyfox


    Wow.. OMG.. both episodes 10/10, absolutely amazing television! Very well written, grim and so gripping


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,539 ✭✭✭The Specialist


    No new ep this week?

    It's on Tuesday nights so EP 3 is tomorrow :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,969 ✭✭✭✭alchemist33


    This has been great so far. The portrayal of a system based on dogma and fear making them all so slow to react is fantastic.


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,648 ✭✭✭✭Dial Hard


    It's on Tuesday nights so EP 3 is tomorrow :)

    Technically it's on Tuesday mornings at 2am so available any time after that :)


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  • Registered Users Posts: 14,471 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    Not for the faint of heart this week.

    No punches pulled in depicting the horror of death by radiation poisoning.


  • Registered Users Posts: 26,458 ✭✭✭✭gandalf


    Man that was a rough episode. Excellent telly, great performances again but grim viewing.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 174 ✭✭mcdaids69


    tough watch this week..tell ur partners to hold their stomochs,every word is watchable this week,very fast paced


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Powerful viewing...


  • Registered Users Posts: 82,299 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    M


    Best episode so far, the coal miner lads stole the show, reminded me of the oil riggers being asked to take out the asteroid in Armageddon. Stellan Skarsgård is doing a great job too as Boris Shcherbina.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


    Those poor bastards :(


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,499 ✭✭✭cozar


    The ending with the steel coffins ...heartbreaking


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,485 ✭✭✭harr


    Poor poor ****ers what an absolutely terrifying way to go... I would hope someone would put me out of my misery.
    The miners were some crew...


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,579 ✭✭✭Working class heroes


    WOW!

    Racism is now hiding behind the cloak of Community activism.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 39,819 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    I will get around to watching this but does this episode deal with the liquidators ? Those poor bastards had an awful life after even if it was short.


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