England France 6 Nations thread

The Rape of Lucretia

The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »

The sophistication of French coaching seems 10 or more years behind the times. Almost everyone has moved beyond them. Its only that they still have a serious pool of talent that they are sustaining any sort of level. Player development hasnt moved on much either, but thats back to the low level of coaching.
They need to hire a few New Zealanders for about 10 years for root and branch change in French rugby knowhow.

yeah - they have never had a foreign coach at national level afaicr?

stupid French pride - get over it.

troyzer

Demon creature playing openside for England at the moment.

England just playing for the craic now.

troyzer

France doesn't even know which back is playing where.

Brunel needs to be proverbially ****ing lynched for allowing this.

France need a Michael Cheika or Joe Schmidt to install a cultural change.

awec

That’s a very generous penalty try IMO

Gidea

glasso wrote: »

yeah - they have never had a foreign coach at national level afaicr?

stupid French pride - get over it.

Was just reading there that the FFR have strict rules on players having French passports and they have next to no players that are resident qualified.

Can't imagine they'd hire a foreign coach with that mindset!

Incidentally, you could argue that every other them benefited from the 3 year rule and have made their teams better, while France have gone backwords

lawred2

Don't think he would have scored. Ball bounced behind to the left of them

Bridge93

That’s a rubbish decision from Owens

Hurrache

awec wrote: »

That’s a very generous penalty try IMO

Dunno, even if he caught it with his knee or foot it likely would have been scored.

troyzer

The only real positive outcome now could be a ridiculous, 80+ point England win and all of the arrogance and complacency that comes with it.

Podge_irl

awec wrote: »

That’s a very generous penalty try IMO

Ashton had over-run that ball. There is no way in hell he was going to pick it up and score either way.

highgiant1985

penalty try and a yellow card... how much worse can this get for the French...

The Rape of Lucretia

Ahh correct. He was tackled without the ball, and while anything can happen, it doesnt have to be a guaranteed score to award the penalty try.

fitz

awec wrote: »

That’s a very generous penalty try IMO

Two French players on top of him, and still a couple of meters out, yellow card definitely, but very harsh penalty try.

Bridge93

Hurrache wrote: »

Dunno, even if he caught it with his knee or foot it likely would have been scored.

He tried to kick it but overran it. He was then tackled

Podge_irl

The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »

Ahh correct. He was tackled without the ball, and while anything can happen, it doesnt have to be a guaranteed score to award the penalty try.

It has to be a probable score and I don't see how it was anything of the sort to be honest.

Odelay

highgiant1985 wrote: »

penalty try and a yellow card... how much worse can this get for the French...

I think we’re gonna find out soon.

conor678

Harsh that

I wonder with Italy having a professional overhaul from bottom up with Conor O Shea calling the shots will Italy eventually over take France in international rugby. As Italy progress France regress and they eventually over take them

Burkie1203

Podge_irl wrote: »

Ashton had over-run that ball. There is no way in hell he was going to pick it up and score either way.

France attack ends up as an England PT is just France being France. Ropey decision that it was

ednwireland

awec wrote: »

That’s a very generous penalty try IMO

maybe the French player shouldn't have a tackled a man without the ball.

awec

England are bloody excellent

fitz

England are playing like we did last year. Relentless pressure.

The Rape of Lucretia

Whats France's record 6N defeat any stattos ?

Vital Transformation

France have been absolutely tormented by England's kicking game.

Bridge93

Sinckler is mind-numbingly stupid. Has to be carded

troyzer

Sinckler should be binned for that.

highgiant1985

The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »

Whats France's record 6N defeat any stattos ?

I think they said on TV record points loss for France vs England was 37 points which was nearly 100 years ago.

The Rape of Lucretia

Well thats just so dumb. Has to be a yellow.

BoJack Horseman

There is no better referee than Nigel Owens.

Utah_Saint

troyzer wrote: »

Sinckler should be binned for that.

He does that most games after England win a scrum

Guy:Incognito

Quinlan keeps saying Sinclair. It's a small thing, but its irritating me now.

troyzer

The French fans singing La Marseillaise.

They deserve better than this.

gooch2k9

Decisions like that allow this nonsense to creep into the game.

conor678

That's the only thing of note Basteraud has done all game,waste of space

Utah_Saint

I thought Ireland were the team that kicks loads

Beechwoodspark

Ah lads. This is getting ridiculous

laugh

Johnny May held and stooped Du Pointe from getting to that before Farrell.

joseywhales

Wtf, they jogged back

Buer

Checking wrong thing. May was ahead of kick I thought in real time.

Guy:Incognito

I thought hed complain about may hooking his arm and stopping him getting after the ball.

Guy:Incognito

Wonder would he have carded him if they had 15 on the pitch or if it was a closer game.

Gidea

Gidea wrote: »

Was just reading there that the FFR have strict rules on players having French passports and they have next to no players that are resident qualified.

Can't imagine they'd hire a foreign coach with that mindset!

Incidentally, you could argue that every other them benefited from the 3 year rule and have made their teams better, while France have gone backwords

sort of ironic as France had amongst the earliest adoption of foreign players for the national team - Tony Marsh remember him?

played 21 caps 2001 to 2004

Burkie1203

44-8 and there is 25 min left.

French rugby is dead.

joseywhales

21 literally jogged back and allowed that try to be scored

Burkie1203

joseywhales wrote: »

21 literally jogged back and allowed that try to be scored

Him and about 8 others

razorblunt

Awful officiating from Owen, Sinkler was a yellow, Bamba was a yellow, May held the replacement scrum half back.


Ntamack jogging back too, talk about a luxury player.

Inspector Coptoor

France making Ireland’s performance last week look less poor.

Can England peak again for the World Cup?

They look fantastic at the moment.
So much pace in the back three and Farrell pulling all the strings like a marionette master.

joseywhales

joseywhales wrote: »

21 literally jogged back and allowed that try to be scored

Sorry 22 the guy beside farrel

Podge_irl

I kinda thought that Owens saying "we're checking everything" meant he was going to look at the French player being held on the ground. But he immediately gave the try as soon as he heard "back off Blue" so he clearly wasn't actually checking everything.

Buer

Buer wrote: »

Checking wrong thing. May was ahead of kick I thought in real time.

Look just in line on the replay

joseywhales

razorblunt wrote: »

Awful officiating from Owen, Sinkler was a yellow, Bamba was a yellow, May held the replacement scrum half back.


Ntamack jogging back too, talk about a luxury player.

In fairness to ntamack his old man did the same for dricos hatrick.