ISIS people returning thread - no Lisa Smith talk (21/12/19)

mynamejeff

end of the road wrote: »

she won't, but in saying that she is right in what she states.

no she is not right in what she states ,

lisa is a traitor to her country and a terrorist

she should die where she is as are many terrorists

Boggles

mynamejeff wrote: »

no she is not right in what she states ,

lisa is a traitor to her country and a terrorist

she should die where she is as are many terrorists

She is lots of things but she isn't that FFS.

Gatling

Boggles wrote: »

She is lots of things but she isn't that FFS.

Only two would say that and one thanked this .

She is a Traitor,





for some reason we have a little we luv isislisa fan club

blueshade

The Chair of the Muslim Integration and Peace group in Ireland has stated repeatedly that there's a problem with radicalisation here, he's done so again today. RTE insisted on going to Clonskeagh mosque for comment on Muslim related matters despite the fact that the mosque segregates women from men, forces women to use a separate entrance from men and at various protests had women at the rear of the group, despite RTE's best attempts to hide the fact. It wasn't until the Clonskeagh mouthpiece Dr Ali fooked up and stated his support for FGM that RTE stopped using them.

We have no idea who we have living here, there are thousands here on fake marriages and fake taxi driving scams. We have under resourced Gardai as it is, rural Ireland is a playground for our own homegrown ethnic minority to terrorise. Where will the money to monitor the people returning come from? What budget does it come out of? As for the children these people spawned, they will be an even bigger threat than their parents posed. Honestly, the only way to be sure of ending it is to bomb the camps.

end of the road

blueshade wrote: »

The Chair of the Muslim Integration and Peace group in Ireland has stated repeatedly that there's a problem with radicalisation here, he's done so again today. RTE insisted on going to Clonskeagh mosque for comment on Muslim related matters despite the fact that the mosque segregates women from men, forces women to use a separate entrance from men and at various protests had women at the rear of the group, despite RTE's best attempts to hide the fact. It wasn't until the Clonskeagh mouthpiece Dr Ali fooked up and stated his support for FGM that RTE stopped using them.

at least they no longer use that mosq, so that is a result.

blueshade wrote: »

We have no idea who we have living here, there are thousands here on fake marriages and fake taxi driving scams. We have under resourced Gardai as it is, rural Ireland is a playground for our own homegrown ethnic minority to terrorise. Where will the money to monitor the people returning come from? What budget does it come out of?

there is plenty of money in the country, there is no excuse for not having a properly resourced garda force. you can be guaranteed that if the politicians wanted the gardai to do something that benefits them the most the money would be found quick.

blueshade wrote: »

As for the children these people spawned, they will be an even bigger threat than their parents posed.

if they are left to rome free in syria, absolutely. if they are got away and de-radicalized they shouldn't be, especially if they are young enough.

blueshade wrote: »

Honestly, the only way to be sure of ending it is to bomb the camps.

and who is going to do that?

Signore Fancy Pants

Ireland does not operate a de-radicalisation programme.

A good start would be to remove the kids from their brainwashed parents.

blueshade

end of the road wrote: »

at least they no longer use that mosq, so that is a result.



there is plenty of money in the country, there is no excuse for not having a properly resourced garda force. you can be guaranteed that if the politicians wanted the gardai to do something that benefits them the most the money would be found quick.



if they are left to rome free in syria, absolutely. if they are got away and de-radicalized they shouldn't be, especially if they are young enough.



and who is going to do that?

I don't care who bombs the camps with the ISIS relatives in it, I just want them razed to the ground and that would solve the problem of burying them afterwards. As long as even one of them, man, woman or child, poses a threat to anyone in Europe the risk shouldn't be taken. I'm sick and tired of seeing stories of jihadists murdering and maiming people in terrorist attacks in Europe who were known to Police and Security forces, some were being watched, some were deemed to not be a threat. Almost all of them had some kind of criminal record.

end of the road

Signore Fancy Pants wrote: »

Ireland does not operate a de-radicalisation programme.

A good start would be to remove the kids from their brainwashed parents.

well they need to start operating one.

blueshade wrote: »

I don't care who bombs the camps with the ISIS relatives in it, I just want them razed to the ground and that would solve the problem of burying them afterwards. As long as even one of them, man, woman or child, poses a threat to anyone in Europe the risk shouldn't be taken. I'm sick and tired of seeing stories of jihadists murdering and maiming people in terrorist attacks in Europe who were known to Police and Security forces, some were being watched, some were deemed to not be a threat. Almost all of them had some kind of criminal record.

the few gihadi attacks that do happen are a failure of the security forces yes, however generally improvements are made and lessons are learned. the security forces do seem to manage to stop the vast majority of planned attacks before they can even happen.
the reality is it is unlikely that anybody will be bombing the camps holding isis prisoners in syria. much easier just to throw them back to their countries of origin so that the world can continue to be able to deport foreign criminals without obstruction.

Signore Fancy Pants

end of the road wrote: »

well they need to start operating one.

Yeah, simple. Just operate one :pac:.

It would be cheaper, quicker and more efficient to deport or detain (whichever is more appropriate on a case by case basis) those who show signs of Jihadi/radical Islamist characteristics.

De-radicalisation is a grey area tbh.and not really appropriate for numbers of wackos in Ireland.

Certainly in Lisa Smiths case, the kid should be removed from the parent. There should be no legitimate argument against this. Children have been taken away from parents for much less.

jmreire

Signore Fancy Pants wrote: »

Yeah, simple. Just operate one :pac:.

It would be cheaper, quicker and more efficient to deport or detain (whichever is more appropriate on a case by case basis) those who show signs of Jihadi/radical Islamist characteristics.

De-radicalisation is a grey area tbh.and not really appropriate for numbers of wackos in Ireland.

Certainly in Lisa Smiths case, the kid should be removed from the parent. There should be no legitimate argument against this. Children have been taken away from parents for much less.

Maybe not a de-radicalize center, but definitely laws need to be changed ( and new law's implemented if need be ) mandating minimum penalties for anyone who leaves the Country to join any organization which is involved in any kind of terrorist activities. The very fact that a person even joined such an organization either here or abroad should be enough to get a conviction, and proof of a crime having been committed abroad not necessary for a conviction.

Signore Fancy Pants

jmreire wrote: »

Maybe not a de-radicalize center, but definitely laws need to be changed ( and new law's implemented if need be ) mandating minimum penalties for anyone who leaves the Country to join any organization which is involved in any kind of terrorist activities. The very fact that a person even joined such an organization either here or abroad should be enough to get a conviction, and proof of a crime having been committed abroad not necessary for a conviction.

I agree 100%.

goat2

Some time ago, it was in the news that Lisa Smiths child was missing, when Turkey took over from America on the border

recedite

goat2 wrote: »

Some time ago, it was in the news that Lisa Smiths child was missing, when Turkey took over from America on the border

They both escaped from the Kurdish prison camp they were in.
If you mean "it was in the news" that they were separated, put up the link.

recedite

I like how they have stamped TOP SECRET on the front page of the newspaper.

tuxy

Does this mean the Turks don't want her?
Surprising.

recedite

Erdogan wrote:

We want to return these [Daesh] fighters back, we cannot look after them...... we will see what kind of steps we can take to expedite their return

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SO4YEs7YkJ0
He is getting rid of the troublesome foreign fighters, after breaking them out of the Kurdish camps, but he'll keep the Syrian ones because he needs to repopulate the buffer zone with a pro-Turkish population. Any Kurdish residents have been chased out of it, but they would start slipping back in, over time, if their homes and lands have not been taken over by suitable others.

Tea drinker

tuxy wrote: »

Does this mean the Turks don't want her?
Surprising.

Ageing sex tourist - terrorist don't really have a lot of currency

jmreire

I guess they delayed it as long as possible.......now the fun will start !!!

tuxy

jmreire wrote: »

I guess they delayed it as long as possible.......now the fun will start !!!

Will there be fun and games?
I thought the Garda were just going to have a word with her.

jmreire

tuxy wrote: »

Will there be fun and games?
I thought the Garda were just going to have a word with her.

Oh, I'm sure that they will, amongst other's !!! She is going to be one busy Girl for the next few weeks if not months.....

recedite

A Garda could have flown into Istanbul airport with plane tickets and passports for them, but where's the fun in that?


Ryan Turgidy has sent the Rangers. It makes for a much more exciting Late Late Show.

nthclare

jmreire wrote: »

Oh, I'm sure that they will, amongst other's !!! She is going to be one busy Girl for the next few weeks if not months.....

I find it so strange that a grown adult joined one of the worst terrorist groups in modern day history I mean they were depraved.
What they did to men women and children would put Vlad the Impaler to shame.

Lisa Smith knowingly and willingly joined these savages, no well meaning person would join them.

She's not what you'd call an honourable member of society, she could have stayed here and lived a normal life.
But she chooses to go and join a death cult.

The type of cult which would have no problem lining up every man in a Christian village and without remorse shoot them all in the head or slice their head's off, painfully at that.

Then they'ed enslave women and indoctrinate the kid's into the death cult.

Call a spade a spade, SHE WILLING JOINED THIS DEATH CULT

SHE'S A RESPONSIBLE ADULT

Hopefully she'll be locked away for ever

SSr0

Signore Fancy Pants wrote: »

LOL

https://twitter.com/patoconnell101/status/1190910304621907968?s=19

I'd definitely be going flat off that detail.

statesaver

Why are the Army Ranger Wing being used to get her back ?

Would it not be better for those who want her back ( family, friends and ' allies, lol ' ) to crowd fund the cost of airline tickets and new passports. It would save the taxpayer thousands. She got there on her own dime, she can come back on her own dime.

Oh .... yeah ..... fuuuuck her

nthclare

statesaver wrote: »

Why are the Army Ranger Wing being used to get her back ?

Would it not be better for those who want her back ( family, friends and ' allies, lol ' ) to crowd fund the cost of airline tickets and new passports. It would save the taxpayer thousands. She got there on her own dime, she can come back on her own dime.

Oh .... yeah ..... fuuuuck her

So now the Irish media have let the world know that there's Irish Rangers pounding the sands of what I could only describe as a real life Mad Max like civilization.

Therefore letting every jihadist and rag tag crusty bellend from here to there know that we have our elite forces on the ground in Syria.

Fake news to say the least and a dog with a mallet up his hole knows that the Irish Rangers are not there, I know a few retired ranger's and they are so secretive that they'ed be in and out like Chris Ryan nobody would know.

What a shower of traitor's the media would be if it was true, surly they'ed be expensive bounty for Alnusra, Alkaida or Daesh

Don't believe a word of it, it's all lies.

zell12

IDF (Irish Defence Forces) launch secret mission to bring home Islamic State bride Lisa Smith and her child

AlekSmart

recedite wrote: »

A Garda could have flown into Istanbul airport with plane tickets and passports for them, but where's the fun in that?


Ryan Turgidy has sent the Rangers. It makes for a much more exciting Late Late Show.

Is there not some protocol involved around deploying Irish Defence Forces on specific missions abroad.

Does it not require at least some element of approval by Dáil Éireann ?

mgn

Great country this, sending out the elite army wing to bring back that evil twisted bitch, why are the not down on the border protecting people going about their daily business instead of bringing back that bitch.
The likes of that spineless idiot Charlie Flanagan has a lot to answer for.

Fr_Dougal

Heard a rumour that they’re sending her to Achill.

end of the road

mgn wrote: »

Great country this, sending out the elite army wing to bring back that evil twisted bitch, why are the not down on the border protecting people going about their daily business instead of bringing back that bitch.
The likes of that spineless idiot Charlie Flanagan has a lot to answer for.

because the issues on the border are a policing issue, not a military issue.
and as mentioned by someone else above, any missions the army ranger wing may engage in are kept absolutely secret. perhapse they may be revealed once completed, if ever revealed at all.
this story should be taken with a pinch of salt for now at least.