ISIS people returning thread - no Lisa Smith talk (21/12/19)

bucketybuck

Candie wrote: »

I didn't think it was legal to leave someone Stateless.

She has a state. The Islamic State of Iraq and Syria.

SeanW

Just so that we are all certain what the argument is about - if the Kurds decide to put a rifle to the back of her head, would anyone object to that? Thusly, is the argument over what to do with these so-called people if they do not face justice in Syria?

tretorn

Uncharted wrote: »

Written completely unbiased no doubt by Chitra Ramaswamy.

Is she a Muslim too.

That crap would make you ill.

Begun was on the side of people who decapitated aid workers and put it on video.

I thought it was her mother who was from Bangladesh, it’s just fabulous that it’s to hell or to Bangladesh for her now, her family can join her there now, problem sorted.

Here’s hoping she is stuck in Bangladesh for the rest of her life.

tretorn

SeanW wrote: »

Just so that we are all certain what the argument is about - if the Kurds decide to put a rifle to the back of her head, would anyone object to that? Thusly, is the argument over what to do with these so-called people if they do not face justice in Syria?

I wouldn’t have much of a problem with that to be honest.

She represents a danger to my family so if its her or them I would pull the trigger myself.

Uncharted

tretorn wrote: »

Is she a Muslim too.

That crap would make you ill.

Begun was on the side of people who decapitated aid workers and put it on video.

I thought it was her mother who was from Bangladesh, it’s just fabulous that it’s to hell or to Bangladesh for her now, her family can join her there now, problem sorted.

Here’s hoping she is stuck in Bangladesh for the rest of her life.

Im unsure of her religion,but i doubt she is Muslim because she is in a same sex relationship.

All i know of her is that she is an unbearable sjw beacon of all things " woke".

Pontificating to one and all is her M.O.

old_aussie

AND...The GOOD News Is...…

London: Britain’s home secretary Sajid Javid has revoked the UK citizenship of Shamima Begum, the London teenager who joined Islamic State in Raqqa when she was 15 and now wants to come home with her newborn baby.

https://www.smh.com.au/world/europe/islamic-state-bride-shamima-begum-stripped-of-uk-citizenship-20190220-p50yxo.html

Now to revoke another hundred thousand citizenships.

Ya walk round with signs saying "kill the infidels" ya out of the country.

Back to ya sandpits!

iamwhoiam

old_aussie wrote: »

AND...The GOOD News Is...…

London: Britain’s home secretary Sajid Javid has revoked the UK citizenship of Shamima Begum, the London teenager who joined Islamic State in Raqqa when she was 15 and now wants to come home with her newborn baby.

https://www.smh.com.au/world/europe/islamic-state-bride-shamima-begum-stripped-of-uk-citizenship-20190220-p50yxo.html

Now to revoke another hundred thousand citizenships.

Ya walk round with signs saying "kill the infidels" ya out of the country.

Back to ya sandpits!

Does that make her stateless then ? Or how does it work ? I actually didn't know a citizenship could be revoked .

end of the road

bucketybuck wrote: »

She has a state. The Islamic State of Iraq and Syria.

iraq and syria are 2 separate states.

Feisar

end of the road wrote: »

iraq and syria are 2 separate states.

I've never been to America but I've been in some states!

Yurt2

iamwhoiam wrote: »

Does that make her stateless then ? Or how does it work ? I actually didn't know a citizenship could be revoked .

As long as the individual can access another nationality (in this case Bangladeshi) it's perfectly legal. The Home Secretary had to eat crow with a couple of cases last year when he effectively made two people stateless, so their British nationality had to be restored.


It can be done under Irish law (for naturalised citizens), again as long as it can be reasonably proved the Minister isn't making someone stateless. I don't know have those powers ever been used in Ireland though.

Mike9832

Isn't the war nearly over in Syria?

Why are they all still here?

mynamejeff

mgn wrote: »

Boy Barrett and Ruth will be making their case to Charlie Flanagan to allow her to come over here.

this is a genuine possibility now that she cant go back to the UK ,

our leftist politicians are just that crazy

tretorn

Hopefully the powers will be used when that Scrote with Irish citizenship tries to slither back in here.

I think he came from Belarus originally.

Yurt2

mynamejeff wrote: »

this is a genuine possibility now that she cant go back to the UK ,

our leftist politicians are just that crazy

She'd probably get a nomination to run for the Dáil from the Soc Dems as soon as she gets through the arrival gates in Terminal 2.

Suckit

She should try and get arrested over there, and then plead her innocence. Surely there would be people who could start a campaign to have her freed and sent back to the UK.

mgn

mynamejeff wrote: »

this is a genuine possibility now that she cant go back to the UK ,

our leftist politicians are just that crazy

The have to protest about something because their good for nothing else.

AllForIt

A UK Muslim immigration lawyer talking about her appeal says that if she were the age of 21 then the Bangladeshi state would have revoked her citizenship by that age according to their law, but she's 19 so that doesn't apply.

Worryingly, and why I mentioned he's a Muslim lawyer, he argues that the UK state has no evidence against her. Her accounts in interview are evidence afaic and it's a bit ludicrous to suggest that she should be put on trial in the UK because she'd have to be in the UK for that to happen.

What I also find disturbing is the inference that somehow the UK state is being racist towards her in their decision to revoke her citizenship.

irishproduce

I get a sense the Brits are going to toughen up a lot post brexit and we'll see more of this short shrift bring dished out to the likes of the eejits who wear tee-shirts saying "kill the infidels".

fxotoole

old_aussie wrote: »

AND...The GOOD News Is...…

London: Britain’s home secretary Sajid Javid has revoked the UK citizenship of Shamima Begum, the London teenager who joined Islamic State in Raqqa when she was 15 and now wants to come home with her newborn baby.

https://www.smh.com.au/world/europe/islamic-state-bride-shamima-begum-stripped-of-uk-citizenship-20190220-p50yxo.html

Now to revoke another hundred thousand citizenships.

Ya walk round with signs saying "kill the infidels" ya out of the country.

Back to ya sandpits!

It’s not that simple. She still has the right to appeal.

And you can’t go around revoking citizenship from thousands of people willy nilly. It’s only done in rare occasions. And you can’t revoke citizenship if to do so would make someone stateless. Finally, any decent self-respecting democracy has the concept of the right to appeal, as I mentioned above.

mgn

irishproduce wrote: »

I get a sense the Brits are going to toughen up a lot post brexit and we'll see more of this short shrift bring dished out to the likes of the eejits who wear tee-shirts saying "kill the infidels".

Good for them and about time too.The English has being taking for fools long enough.

Panthro

Let her stay with the loons.

MonkieSocks

bucketybuck

end of the road wrote: »

iraq and syria are 2 separate states.

46 posts in this thread and you don't even know what ISIS stands for. Why am I not surprised.

Yurt2

5 revocations of Irish nationality thus far. All since 2015, with a likely 6th revocation (Damache, yerman extradited to the US), and a possible 7th for the Belarusian.

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/shane-phelan-there-have-only-ever-been-five-revocations-of-irish-citizenship-its-a-rare-occurrence-37727311.html

Feisar

Why is this even an issue, just peg people like this into the nearest incinerator

newport2

mgn wrote: »

Boy Barrett and Ruth will be making their case to Charlie Flanagan to allow her to come over here.

To run for People Before Prophet?

Billy86

Feisar wrote: »

Why is this even an issue, just peg people like this into the nearest incinerator

I don't think the UK should let her back in unless they are absolutely legally obliged (e.g. she is not a citizen of any other country), but I thought you were pro life? It should be mentioned that she is 8-9 months pregnant.

tretorn

She isn’t pregnant any more, she gave birth to a boy and you can imagine what he will be like at fifteen.

Off to Bangladesh with both of them.

Billy86

Billy86 wrote: »

I don't think the UK should let her back in unless they are absolutely legally obliged (e.g. she is not a citizen of any other country), but I thought you were pro life? It should be mentioned that she is 8-9 months pregnant.

She had the baby a couple of days ago in Syria. So the infant is a Syrian citizen.

Plumbthedepths

Well done the UK leave the terrorist with the rest of the scum.