ISIS people returning thread - no Lisa Smith talk (21/12/19)

Giveaway

end of the road wrote: »

if the syrians decide they want her gone then gone back to ireland she will be.



if you are talking about lack of laws to allow the preventing of foreign isis members returning to their country of origin, then of course such nonsense isn't going to happen as it would put the whole world at risk, and allow countries to sherk their responsibilities. foreign terrorists belong to their country of origin whether western or eastern.

How many non european jihadis and criminals got into europe again and cannot be deported to their home middle eastern countries because said countries say no?

end of the road

Giveaway wrote: »

How many non european jihadis and criminals got into europe again and cannot be deported to their home middle eastern countries because said countries say no?

none. any foreign gihadis who have got into europe can be deported to their country of origin

Giveaway

end of the road wrote: »

none. any foreign gihadis who have got into europe can be deported to their country of origin

Hundreds at least. Frequent reports of unable to deport because of lack of docs and non co operation by their country of origin. Maybe irelans should play the same game.

Gatling

Seems we've our own Isis bride who's a former member of the defence forces detained in northern Syria who wants to return here

scamalert

end of the road wrote: »

none. any foreign gihadis who have got into europe can be deported to their country of origin

yeah what about those that are either known or suspected to be in such organizations seems plenty in UK that want islamic laws yet hey they get to enjoy western world where they can march and chant their crap, yet if any westerner done anything remotely whats against muslim beliefs they wouldnt live a week to tell about it in any islamic country.


seems theres standards where westerners have to bend over and take it both ways, yet muslims can do as they wish, no need to integrate better make state into $hithole they come from is reality today, since oh we need to respect their rights, yet if your on their ground its fck your rights, more of a truth.

mad muffin

Gatling wrote: »

Seems we've our own Isis bride who's a former member of the defence forces detained in northern Syria who wants to return here

Yes. And Varadkar creamed himself with the opportunity to virtue signal about it…

Stheno

The death of the child has been confirmed

mad muffin

Stheno wrote: »

The death of the child has been confirmed

Sad the child was innocent, even if he was born of two vile creatures. But the death is on her head. She has no one but herself to blame for it.

Ted Johnson

mad muffin wrote: »

Sad the child was innocent, even if he was born of two vile creatures. But the death is on her head. She has no one but herself to blame for it.

Just watch as we (the West) are blamed for the child's death because we refused to back a woman who hates us.

s7ryf3925pivug

The child would have been an English citizen no? Even if the mother was stripped of citizenship it was after the child was born.

ohnonotgmail

Aniyah Flabby Sidebar wrote: »

The child would have been an English citizen no? Even if the mother was stripped of citizenship it was after the child was born.

The child was definitely a british citizen.

s7ryf3925pivug

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

The child was definitely a british citizen.

So Britain was responsible for the child.

mad muffin

Aniyah Flabby Sidebar wrote: »

So Britain was responsible for the child.

No. The mother was responsible for the child, and the mother chose poorly.

SaifUllah

Terrible terrible tragedy, the UK should be held accountable for not getting her back sooner.
She is a British citizen, her and her child deserved more.

Auntie Semite

mad muffin

mad muffin wrote: »

No. The mother was responsible for the child, and the mother chose poorly.

The child’s father too.

BalcombeSt4

FTA69 wrote: »

So one of the three British teenagers who went to join ISIS at 15 has turned up at a refugee camp four years later and said she wants to return home. She is nine months pregnant with her third child, the first two supposedly dying of malnutrition, and wants to return to London in order to access the NHS.

Initially I sympathised with these girls, thinking they’d been groomed online and brainwashed and had made a terrible mistake but listening to the interview with the woman here - it’s chilling. She’s now a 19 year old woman, saying she regrets nothing, how severed heads in the bin unfazed her as “they were enemies of Islam” and how she “saluted” those remaining in the last bit of ISIS territory.

As far as I’m concerned she should be bloody left out there, but a mate of mine who fought against ISIS was opposed to this correctly asking why the Kurds should have put up with these foreign maniacs?

Unbelievable that some people are suggesting we should be tolerant or sympathetic to this woman.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2019/feb/14/shamima-begum-friends-kadiza-sultana-amira-abase-joined-isis-syria

Especially after the West helped fund & arm some of these foreign maniacs, just like they did with the Taliban & Saddam in the 1980's.

Gatling

BalcombeSt4 wrote: »

Especially after the West helped fund & arm some of these foreign maniacs, just like they did with the Taliban

Funded the Taliban odd seems the Taliban were bankrolled by Pakistan and Saudi

BalcombeSt4

SaifUllah wrote: »

Terrible terrible tragedy, the UK should be held accountable for not getting her back sooner.
She is a British citizen, her and her child deserved more.

Agree 100%. The longer it takes to get her back the longer it takes to put her on trial in a British court.

BalcombeSt4

Well the Mujahideen that Bin Laden was fighting for, and plenty of them later went on to form or join the Taliban.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Cyclone

mad muffin

Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »

The child’s father too.

True. He also chose poorly.

BalcombeSt4

BalcombeSt4 wrote: »

Well the Mujahideen that Bin Laden was fighting for, and plenty of them later went on to form or join the Taliban.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Cyclone

Back when the west was in a full on cold war with the Soviet Union, there were many very shady characters and organisations that were supported by western governments, Mujahideen being one of many, just look at all the US backed banana republics in central & Latin America in the 1960s - 1980s.


Now we have a repeat of these proxy wars in Syria & to a lesser degree Venezuela, with several other hotspots brewing elsewhere on the planet.

goat2

On one of the news channels today, don't know if it was Fox news, there is an Irish woman that joined ISIS now surrendered,

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/former-female-member-of-irish-defence-forces-detained-in-syria-over-suspected-isis-involvement-37893478.html

goat2

goat2 wrote: »

On one of the news channels today, don't know if it was Fox news, there is an Irish woman that joined ISIS now surrendered,

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/former-female-member-of-irish-defence-forces-detained-in-syria-over-suspected-isis-involvement-37893478.html

Rté


https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2019/0308/1035235-syria/

Gatling

BalcombeSt4 wrote: »

Well the Mujahideen that Bin Laden was fighting for,[/url]

Sorry thats wrong many of the Arab groups and Mujahedeen didn't fight together ,the Arab groups had their sole interests in Afghanistan and it wasn't fighting russians with the majority of the Afghan Mujahedeen ,
In a lot of cases the Afghans and Arabs often clashed when Arabs tried to take control of land and resources in Afghanistan,
Add then Russia leaving thousands of tons of weapons and ammunition behind for a free for all didn't help when they finally withdrew from the country.


But this is a whole different thread

s7ryf3925pivug

mad muffin wrote: »

No. The mother was responsible for the child, and the mother chose poorly.

The mother was actively seeking state help for her child. The state said no **** you and your baby. The state has a duty to protect its citizens, especially vulnerable innocent ones like babies.

She was also Britain's responsibilty. She was British. She was radicalised in Britain, as a child herself. How much was she groomed manipulated and brainwashed in the last four years and how much is she just a psycho - I dont know and neither do you. As a citizen of Britain they can investigate that and if appropriate, have her stand trial, where she should enjoy a presumption of innocence.

Sunny88

Aniyah Flabby Sidebar wrote: »

The mother was actively seeking state help for her child. The state said no **** you and your baby. The state has a duty to protect its citizens, especially vulnerable innocent ones like babies.

She was also Britain's responsibilty. She was British. She was radicalised in Britain, as a child herself. How much was she groomed manipulated and brainwashed in the last four years and how much is she just a psycho - I dont know and neither do you. As a citizen of Britain they can investigate that and if appropriate, have her stand trial, where she should enjoy a presumption of innocence.

I admit to having an iota of sympathy for her when the baby died
But you have to remember that same woman would cut your childs throat
So fook them

s7ryf3925pivug

Sunny88 wrote: »

I admit to having an iota of sympathy for her when the baby died
But you have to remember that same woman would cut your childs throat
So fook them

The baby didn't wish me any harm. That's who I feel sorry for.

Sunny88

Aniyah Flabby Sidebar wrote: »

The baby didn't wish me any harm. That's who I feel sorry for.

Well wise up or you will have more babies to feel sorry for
Isis types are planning school massacres in Germany
Have you heard of Beslan?

dd973

She's not really British, she's a Bengali born in London, if the Brits hadn't colonised or ruined her parental country and place of origin she wouldn't have ended up being born there in the first place.