Galway's traffic issues

topcat77

Country folk coming into our city, congestion charges for non city dwellers!

topcat77

Above post is supposed to be humorous.

what_traffic

topcat77 wrote: »

Country folk coming into our city, congestion charges for non city dwellers!

Most City folk I know seem to be originally from the Country(or further). Maybe give the Country folk better options of getting into the City.

beardybrewer

Anyone see in yesterday's Advertiser they've managed to spend €15 million on a ring road we don't have?

Snow Garden

I'll tell you what folks, we are losing a lot of high tech jobs to Limerick at the moment due to our traffic issues and the lack of commercial property.

Mrs OBumble

Snow Garden wrote: »

I'll tell you what folks, we are losing a lot of high tech jobs to Limerick at the moment due to our traffic issues and the lack of commercial property.

Ya, but I'm sick of working with people who commute up here from Limerick and surrounds. Tremendous social and environmental cost. I'd rather they get jobs close to home.

John_Rambo

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

Ya, but I'm sick of working with people who commute up here from Limerick and surrounds. Tremendous social and environmental cost. I'd rather they get jobs close to home.

LOL.. welcome to the cities, large human settlements, the cultural and economic nerve centres of the country where humans converge for employment, entertainment, and edification.

The Lost Sheep

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

Ya, but I'm sick of working with people who commute up here from Limerick and surrounds. Tremendous social and environmental cost. I'd rather they get jobs close to home.

Hahaha
welcome to 21st century.
Theyre getting jobs here in Galway as they cant get jobs in their career/area interest in their home town.

what_traffic

Snow Garden wrote: »

I'll tell you what folks, we are losing a lot of high tech jobs to Limerick at the moment due to our traffic issues and the lack of commercial property.

ya very true. example of two developments that are now shortly to be constructed that back up your claim :rolleyes:

https://connachttribune.ie/appeals-board-gives-go-ahead-for-e100m-bonham-quay-project/
Only office space for 2,600 people in this City Centre Commercial Development

https://connachttribune.ie/city-planners-approve-major-development-at-former-crown-equipment-site/
Only office space for 3,500 people in this City Centre Commercial Development

Mrs OBumble

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

Hahaha
welcome to 21st century.
Theyre getting jobs here in Galway as they cant get jobs in their career/area interest in their home town.

Hahaha yourself.

Apparently we're losing jobs to Limerick. Except it seems we're not after all.

Snow Garden

what_traffic wrote: »

ya very true. example of two developments that are now shortly to be constructed that back up your claim :rolleyes:

https://connachttribune.ie/appeals-board-gives-go-ahead-for-e100m-bonham-quay-project/
Only office space for 2,600 people in this City Centre Commercial Development

https://connachttribune.ie/city-planners-approve-major-development-at-former-crown-equipment-site/
Only office space for 3,500 people in this City Centre Commercial Development

It's not a claim. I know of 2 companies this month alone who chose to set up in Limerick instead of Galway. They cited office space and traffic as reasons. The office space developments you linked will take time. In the meantime we will forego other opportunities.

what_traffic

Snow Garden wrote: »

It's not a claim. I know of 2 companies this month alone who chose to set up in Limerick instead of Galway.

How big and who are they?
So Limerick had space office capacity in City Centre but Galway did not. I wonder why?
Try house prices then.....

Snow Garden

what_traffic wrote: »

How big and who are they?
So Limerick had space office capacity in City Centre but Galway did not. I wonder why?
Try house prices then.....

I cant say because I am involved in the process. We are talking about 170 jobs this month alone. It will be public knowledge soon enough. Its a trend I have seen escalate over the last 12 months. I think the lack of office space is probably the main reason but traffic is a factor.

Mrs OBumble

Of course lack of office space is a factor: that's why Bonham Quay is being built. And there are plans for the Crown site at Mervue, a whole new office park in Ballybane industrial and in Doughiska, and likely others I haven't remembered.

But the mentality of "oh no, we're losing jobs" to Limerick is nuts.

Limerick is a city: a far bigger one than Galway if you look at the proper (as opposed to official) boundaries. Of course Limerick will get some jobs - because people who live there or close to there should be working there.

Snow Garden

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

Of course lack of office space is a factor: that's why Bonham Quay is being built. And there are plans for the Crown site at Mervue, a whole new office park in Ballybane industrial and in Doughiska, and likely others I haven't remembered.

But the mentality of "oh no, we're losing jobs" to Limerick is nuts.

Limerick is a city: a far bigger one than Galway if you look at the proper (as opposed to official) boundaries. Of course Limerick will get some jobs - because people who live there or close to there should be working there.

I am guessing you think my 'mentality' is 'nuts'. I am not sure how you read my original post but I was just stating a fact. I'll be honest, your 3 responses to my initial post makes me think you and what_traffic are a bit highly strung. I am not really sure what your angle is on this thread and that's fine with me. Look, I am just the messenger. It's large irrelevant to me as I am well settled in the public service and I won't be leaving anytime soon. Galway has done very well in terms of high tech jobs for many years. So has Limerick to be fair (they have some very persuasive politicians). I guess the pendulum is swinging towards Limerick at the moment. It is what it is and it will balance out I am sure. A lot of employers (and employees) in Dublin are looking to expand or setup along the western seaboard which can only be a good thing. There is almost certainly a better quality of life outside Dublin.

what_traffic

Snow Garden wrote: »

I am guessing you think my 'mentality' is 'nuts'. I am not sure how you read my original post but I was just stating a fact. I'll be honest, your 3 responses to my initial post makes me think you and what_traffic are a bit highly strung. I am not really sure what your angle is on this thread and that's fine with me. Look, I am just the messenger. It's large irrelevant to me as I am well settled in the public service and I won't be leaving anytime soon. Galway has done very well in terms of high tech jobs for many years. So has Limerick to be fair (they have some very persuasive politicians). I guess the pendulum is swinging towards Limerick at the moment. It is what it is and it will balance out I am sure. A lot of employers (and employees) in Dublin are looking to expand or setup along the western seaboard which can only be a good thing. There is almost certainly a better quality of life outside Dublin.

A messenger.....?
You have not backed any of your assertions or your facts?
Both Galway City and Limerick City are both growing, and into the future will do so as well.
What pendulum are you talking about?

Snow Garden

Snow Garden wrote: »

I cant say because I am involved in the process. We are talking about 170 jobs this month alone.

Source?

JCX BXC

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Source?

Why ask a question when you know the answer?

I'm not speaking for the reliability of the original comment.

what_traffic

beardybrewer wrote: »

Anyone see in yesterday's Advertiser they've managed to spend €15 million on a ring road we don't have?

Not surprised. Team in ARUP in Ballybrit have been 5 years at it this stage.
Roughly the same spent on the previous "Bypass" version that never got passed the drawing board.

dok_golf

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

Of course lack of office space is a factor: that's why Bonham Quay is being built. And there are plans for the Crown site at Mervue, a whole new office park in Ballybane industrial and in Doughiska, and likely others I haven't remembered.

But the mentality of "oh no, we're losing jobs" to Limerick is nuts.

Limerick is a city: a far bigger one than Galway if you look at the proper (as opposed to official) boundaries. Of course Limerick will get some jobs - because people who live there or close to there should be working there.

Whats going into the crown site?

Mrs OBumble

dok_golf wrote: »

Whats going into the crown site?

https://www.galwaydaily.com/news/crown-square-granted-planning-approval/

what_traffic

what_traffic wrote: »

ya very true. example of two developments that are now shortly to be constructed that back up your claim :rolleyes:

https://connachttribune.ie/appeals-board-gives-go-ahead-for-e100m-bonham-quay-project/
Only office space for 2,600 people in this City Centre Commercial Development

https://connachttribune.ie/city-planners-approve-major-development-at-former-crown-equipment-site/
Only office space for 3,500 people in this City Centre Commercial Development

Another one

https://connachttribune.ie/planners-approve-new-office-campus-for-1500-workers/
Only office space for 1,500.
"
Phase 1, an investment of €50m, involves the construction of three office blocks, ranging from five to eight storeys in height, a café and parking for 421 cars and 120 bicycles.
"

cghsr56w4654r

From May when GMIT and NUIG have no classes, traffic eases quiet abit, same with school holidays.

Make the colleges start from 10 and finish at 3-4 or 6-7, that way you will free up some traffic.

No parents dropping kids off, just buses collecting them from their estates.

If businesses could alter opening times from 8-10 it would also help.

More importantly people who rent, should try and rent on the side of the city that they work, obviously not always possible but sometimesi t is

JCX BXC

cghsr56w4654r wrote: »

From May when GMIT and NUIG have no classes, traffic eases quiet abit, same with school holidays.

Make the colleges start from 10 and finish at 3-4 or 6-7, that way you will free up some traffic.

That's entirely unworkable, colleges/universities are not schools, they do not have fixed 9-4 timetables. Perhaps changing school times? Also worth mentioning that both institutions don't offer much in the way of parking, and most cycle/walk/bus in.

More importantly people who rent, should try and rent on the side of the city that they work, obviously not always possible but sometimesi t is

It can be hard to find anywhere at all suitable to rent, nevermind in the most ideal location for work.

xckjoo

JCX BXC wrote: »

That's entirely unworkable, colleges/universities are not schools, they do not have fixed 9-4 timetables. Perhaps changing school times? Also worth mentioning that both institutions don't offer much in the way of parking, and most cycle/walk/bus in.

Driving has increased dramatically for college students in the last few years due to accommodation shortages in the city. A lot of people are commuting from home when they can. NUIG have a huge amount of land given over to parking, but they also have a huge number of students and staff. GMIT seem to be dropping parking spots like they're going out of fashion. Not sure what their long term plan is. They've already made all the footpaths into parking spots and their overflow carpark has been sold. Park and Ride facilities are the only thing I can think of that would help with all that.

motley

One leaking water pipe and the whole city has grounded to a halt. I have never experienced the traffic as bad as it is this evening.

bobbyss

motley wrote:

One leaking water pipe and the whole city has grounded to a halt. I have never experienced the traffic as bad as it is this evening.

Not just this evening. I saw QB backed up this morning.

what_traffic

motley wrote: »

One leaking water pipe and the whole city has grounded to a halt. I have never experienced the traffic as bad as it is this evening.

What mode of travel are ya using?

motley

bobbyss wrote:

Not just this evening. I saw QB backed up this morning.

If you were travelling East at all it was bad. There was no escaping the traffic.

McGiver

motley wrote:

One leaking water pipe and the whole city has grounded to a halt. I have never experienced the traffic as bad as it is this evening.

What happened?
Lights were off at the Briarhill/Parkmore junction - dangerous chaos, no garda directing traffic.

zell12

motley wrote: »

One leaking water pipe and the whole city has grounded to a halt. I have never experienced the traffic as bad as it is this evening.

It's been worse during schoolbook buying season, during dead saint relics visiting, during novenas, that time a car crashed into Newcastle lights control, that time the Bodkin junction lights failed, or when the minister was two hours late, or this thread ...

Mrs OBumble

McGiver wrote: »

What happened?
Lights were off at the Briarhill/Parkmore junction - dangerous chaos, no garda directing traffic.

And a water main problem on the Headford Rd.

And a crash on either the Tuam or Headford rds (I know I saw info on Twitter, can't remember which).

During the day, I went to Ballybane and back, then Oranmore and back, by bus with no delays.

zell12

Our esteemed Mayor has apologised on radio for the motor traffic upset yesterday

jammiedodgers

what_traffic wrote: »

What mode of travel are ya using?

I'd take a guess at helicopter. What's your guess?

:rolleyes:

xckjoo

Twas fairly gridlocked in the city yesterday evening alright. Traffic jams places you'd never normally see them. Took the bus so was fine. Got out a bit before Eyre Square and walked. Don't sleep on the bus when available folks! Would probably still be trying to get home if I was in the car

what_traffic

jammiedodgers wrote: »

I'd take a guess at helicopter. What's your guess?

:rolleyes:

Let me see. Public transport? i.e One of the Galway City Bus Services

what_traffic

xckjoo wrote: »

Took the bus so was fine. Got out a bit before Eyre Square and walked.

How far was the walk from Eyre Sq?

xckjoo

what_traffic wrote: »

How far was the walk from Eyre Sq?

The bus hit traffic before Yates on College Road. Definitely worse than normal.

what_traffic

xckjoo wrote: »

The bus hit traffic before Yates on College Road. Definitely worse than normal.

Have often seen people get off the 409/403 Bus's at the junction of Lough Atalia / College Road and walk into Eyre Sq. Daft that bus users have to put up with this.

xckjoo

what_traffic wrote: »

Have often seen people get off the 409/403 Bus's at the junction of Lough Atalia / College Road and walk into Eyre Sq. Daft that bus users have to put up with this.

Ya they regularly hit traffic around the council buildings and start letting people hop off if they want to. Not too much of an issue for the young able, bodied among us, but not great if you're stuck on the bus.

biko

Driving into the city this morning was a breeze with the schools off.
Streets almost empty.

Ruhanna

biko wrote: »

Driving into the city this morning was a breeze with the schools off.

Streets almost empty.

QFT.

bobbyss

what_traffic wrote:

Have often seen people get off the 409/403 Bus's at the junction of Lough Atalia / College Road and walk into Eyre Sq. Daft that bus users have to put up with this.

Very frustrating for Citylink and Gobus passengers coming down the final leg through College Road with it chock a bloc. Could be twenty minutes from Council to station. Some drivers will oblige and let you off if you have no luggage. Others won't. This adds to stress.

You could probably see the passengers from BE who got off at L Atalia and decided to leg it from there walk past you while you are stuck on bus.

Ruhanna

zell12 wrote: »

Our esteemed Mayor has apologised on radio for the motor traffic upset yesterday

The City Council apologised for delays due to the demolished traffic lights at Briarhill.

The apology was to motorists specifically, for some reason.

Ruhanna

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

Of course lack of office space is a factor: that's why Bonham Quay is being built. And there are plans for the Crown site at Mervue, a whole new office park in Ballybane industrial and in Doughiska, and likely others I haven't remembered.

But the mentality of "oh no, we're losing jobs" to Limerick is nuts.

Limerick is a city: a far bigger one than Galway if you look at the proper (as opposed to official) boundaries. Of course Limerick will get some jobs - because people who live there or close to there should be working there.

Galway has a traffic problem precisely because there are lots of major employers in the city. Lots of employers means lots of potential jobs. Job opportunities mean people wanting to live in or near the city, enjoying all the amenities and perhaps raising a family.

That's where the traffic problem starts. Both Galway City and County Councils have spent decades organising everything around car ownership.

Want to live out in the countryside and commute into Parkmore, NUIG or UHG? No problem! Just have a car. Or two. Or even three.

Want to live in suburbia and have Johnny or Mary travel a relatively short distance to school? No problem! Just have a car. Or two.

Ashleigh1986

Heard the mayor on galway bay fm this morning .
what they need to do is LISTEN .
Listen to people who are dealing with this issue 24x 7x 365 .
(1) traffic lights need to be monitored 7.30 am to 9.30 am
4pm to 7pm Monday to Friday or when there's event on in city at weekends ( pearse stadium events )
(2) keep foster street/ eglinton street free from parking from 9am
Let delivery ONLY vecihcles deliver their goods up to 9am
(3) a strong zero tolerance (gardai / traffic wardens ) visable around the city
(4) turn mill street / Dominic street / back the west into a one way system
(5) remove the following roundabouts
Bohermore / corrib park / corrib great southern / castlelawn heights / fort Lorenzo
(6) bus lane from tuam road out to parkmore
(7) cameras on all traffic lights to fine ALL Red light breakers
.... What galway city needs above anything else is a traffic manager
Someone with commonsense
Someone with a vision
If it's left to the local politicans or those already in city hall ... Well they have already proved that they are not up to the job !!!

what_traffic

biko wrote: »

Driving into the city this morning was a breeze with the schools off.
Streets almost empty.

Its even better when you walk or cycle on such days. The air is cleaner with less pollution, less noise from motor vehicles.
It is the future.

what_traffic

bobbyss wrote: »

Very frustrating for Citylink and Gobus passengers coming down the final leg through College Road with it chock a bloc. Could be twenty minutes from Council to station. Some drivers will oblige and let you off if you have no luggage. Others won't. This adds to stress.

You could probably see the passengers from BE who got off at L Atalia and decided to leg it from there walk past you while you are stuck on bus.

The City Council really need to get going on that BUS Gate for College Road. New signage, automatic bollards - could be done in weekend if they put there mind to it.

flazio

Ashleigh1986 wrote: »

Heard the mayor on galway bay fm this morning .
what they need to do is LISTEN .
Listen to people who are dealing with this issue 24x 7x 365 .
(1) traffic lights need to be monitored 7.30 am to 9.30 am
4pm to 7pm Monday to Friday or when there's event on in city at weekends ( pearse stadium events )
(2) keep foster street/ eglinton street free from parking from 9am
Let delivery ONLY vecihcles deliver their goods up to 9am
(3) a strong zero tolerance (gardai / traffic wardens ) visable around the city
(4) turn mill street / Dominic street / back the west into a one way system
(5) remove the following roundabouts
Bohermore / corrib park / corrib great southern / castlelawn heights / fort Lorenzo
(6) bus lane from tuam road out to parkmore
(7) cameras on all traffic lights to fine ALL Red light breakers
.... What galway city needs above anything else is a traffic manager
Someone with commonsense
Someone with a vision
If it's left to the local politicans or those already in city hall ... Well they have already proved that they are not up to the job !!!

Council elections are coming, fancy standing for office?

Ashleigh1986

Flazio ....as a taxpayer who contributes to the salaries of these people what I would expect is... FOR THEM TO BE CAPABLE TO DO THEIR JOB .
I'm self employed .
I'm good at my job .
As a country we take poor service in every aspect of Irish life .
This traffic fiasco has been going on for the past few years .
What has been done ???? NOTHING
Do you actually beleive that one person elected in local elections is going to make a DIFFERANCE to galway traffic ???