Senior Information and Communications Technology (ICT) Specialist in Civil Service

trigger26

As in you got an offer of a role in OGCIO?

TestLink

dimension_9200 wrote: »

I got an email this morning from PAS that they have received a request for vacancy in the Office of the Government Chief Information Officer.

Good News. Best wishes...

dimension_9200

trigger26 wrote: »

As in you got an offer of a role in OGCIO?

Yes I got an offer, subject to clearance.

TestLink

Any one else have the offer?

Also any idea how many vacancies have been reported by various departments in Dublin?

Curious to know whether I have any chance!

Rdwrer

If you made a panel, you will be called. They are crying out for HEOs all over the place.

emermc

I'm staying in the same dept but moving teams. I am starting next week.

The Kurgan

TestLink wrote: »

Any one else have the offer?

Also any idea how many vacancies have been reported by various departments in Dublin?

Curious to know whether I have any chance!

Was emailed last week that I wad under consideration for an infra role in the DSP. Have submitted Garda and Health forms.Just waiting to see if I actually get an offer in the coming weeks.
I was in the late teens on the OOM so touch wood there's an offer pending.

Rdwrer

If you're told you are under consideration, then that is essentially your offer. They just can't officially offer you the job until you have passed Garda vetting etc.

TestLink

How would you compare HEO ICT at Civil Service with Grade 6 ICT role at Local Authority? Salaray, Benefits, Pension, Holidays - Which is better?

TestLink

Thread quiet for a while!

Any one recently joined as HEO in any department? Can you please share your experience?

forrest gump

Yep I got placed in a department in mid February. I was high teens on the panel I say it might be empty now. And there is talk of them running another competition again in the year.
As far as the work it is more management and seeing current projects through to completion. I am really enjoying it as I am doing more technical high level tasks day to day.

TestLink

forrest gump wrote: »

Yep I got placed in a department in mid February. I was high teens on the panel I say it might be empty now. And there is talk of them running another competition again in the year.
As far as the work it is more management and seeing current projects through to completion. I am really enjoying it as I am doing more technical high level tasks day to day.

Are you in ICT Support or Project Management Stream?

Did you get enough training in the new environment?

How many staff do you manage?

forrest gump

I'm in the ICT infrastructure stream.
I haven't received training as its just a step up from EO level where planning and management skills are needed.
Two staff that are working in ICT for a while.

un5byh7sqpd2x0

Anyone else think the pay is terrible for what's described as a "Senior" position?

TestLink

Legend Vast Motor wrote: »

Anyone else think the pay is terrible for what's described as a "Senior" position?

HEO ICT is almost equivalent to Grade 6 officer in Local Authority and other bodies.

I think most of the work is done by 3rd party service providers and you have to liaise with and manage them.

Please correct me if I am wrong.

rostalof

TestLink wrote: »

HEO ICT is almost equivalent to Grade 6 officer in Local Authority and other bodies.

I think most of the work is done by 3rd party service providers and you have to liaise with and manage them.

Please correct me if I am wrong.

Yes, you're wrong.

Burgo

TestLink wrote: »

HEO ICT is almost equivalent to Grade 6 officer in Local Authority and other bodies.

I think most of the work is done by 3rd party service providers and you have to liaise with and manage them.

Please correct me if I am wrong.

That is very much dependant on the department. I would like to say thats not the case but i know one or two places where you wouldnt be doing any IT work just managing contractors, not great for someone coming off an IT panel IMO
They'd have to pry management of the firewalls from my cold dead hands!
In our place we do manage support contracts, but it would be more for troubleshooting issues, helping on projects etc.


As for staff management, you would frankly be lucky as a HEO in IT to be managing 1 or 2 staff compared to a general grade HEO.

Legend Vast Motor wrote: »

Anyone else think the pay is terrible for what's described as a "Senior" position?

Yeah the pay itself isnt great, but I think flexi and job security are worth quite a lot. Especially in uncertain times like these.

rostalof

Burgo wrote: »

That is very much dependant on the department. I would like to say thats not the case but i know one or two places where you wouldnt be doing any IT work just managing contractors, not great for someone coming off an IT panel IMO
They'd have to pry management of the firewalls from my cold dead hands!
In our place we do manage support contracts, but it would be more for troubleshooting issues, helping on projects etc.


As for staff management, you would frankly be lucky as a HEO in IT to be managing 1 or 2 staff compared to a general grade HEO.




Yeah the pay itself isnt great, but I think flexi and job security are worth quite a lot. Especially in uncertain times like these.

It definitely varies from department to department. However, from personal experience in both Revenue and DEASP on the Dev side of things anyway, HEO's can have up to 4 or 5, manage the admin side of things, contracts, invoicing, costing etc. and carry out technical work.

doc22

rostalof wrote: »

It definitely varies from department to department. However, from personal experience in both Revenue and DEASP on the Dev side of things anyway, HEO's can have up to 4 or 5, manage the admin side of things, contracts, invoicing, costing etc. and carry out technical work.

Ah common Revenue is absolutely littered with Contractors, and from my experience in another Big state IT department HEO's would be near a one to one with EO and would be overseeing contractors rather then getting hands dirty developing, Legacy IT HEO's just wouldn't have the skills.

rostalof

doc22 wrote: »

Ah common Revenue is absolutely littered with Contractors, and from my experience in another Big state IT department HEO's would be near a one to one with EO and would be overseeing contractors rather then getting hands dirty developing, Legacy IT HEO's just wouldn't have the skills.

I fully agree with you, I never said there weren't large numbers of contractors in Revenue. But there are HEO's and AO's there who work in technical areas, some with staff reporting to them. Mine had three EOs and was focused on project management, BA work and some legacy type coding. In DEASP both HEOs in the unit have 4 EOs each and on top of the staff and admin side, contracts, invoicing, as mentioned previously they carry out dev work.

My experience and your experience just proves that the situation varies from dept. to dept.

TestLink

The campaign seems to the frozen / going snail pace now. No update from PublicJobs for more than 1 month after giving reference details! Any one experiencing the same?

red1977

Anybody heard any movement on offered positions outside Dublin.

Panelled reasonably well in the HEO Infrastructure stream but not a word.

Looks like the whole thing was a massive waste of time and effort.

Coffee Cap

I'm contacted almost daily by recruiters/companies for other roles but haven't heard anything since the panel interview. It does feel like it was a waste of time.

TestLink

Coffee Cap wrote: »

I'm contacted almost daily by recruiters/companies for other roles but haven't heard anything since the panel interview. It does feel like it was a waste of time.

Same with me. First time bad experience from publicjobs!

i wonder what could be causing the delay eh

Coffee Cap

It's not a new issue, it has been like this for months.

red1977

I called them a couple of months ago and they said they were focussing on Dublin appointments only.

They could'nt tell me of any positions outside the capital to be made available.

Is there anyone here in the same boat or have ye heard anymore information?

TestLink

Even though I passed the reference details to publicjobs almost 2 months back, no word about the progress on it. Really disappointing!

Burgo

Have you contacted them since? I have no doubt the current situation is having quite an affect on normal operations, which is slow enough at the best of times. I joined the CS in 2017, it took close to 10 months from application to getting started.
Also a lot of staff across the civil service have been re-deployed to assist other departments, I assume PAS would be the same.

red1977

Deleted User wrote: »

i wonder what could be causing the delay eh

Absolutely nothing to do with the current climate, I've been contacting since last October.

I'm respectfully leaving them to it at the moment as everyone is currently running at the maximum.

TestLink

Any one still waiting in the Dublin panel or is the panel finished or expired?

smelly sock

TestLink wrote: »

Any one still waiting in the Dublin panel or is the panel finished or expired?

Don't think the Panel has been exhausted or is finished. I know of a guy on it who is , I think , in the 20's and has heard nothing back.

TestLink

Any one got a place offered during the last month? Any progress with the HEO panel 2019?

TestLink

Thread seems to be very silent !

AndrewJRenko

New thread open for newly announced competitions

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2058111195

FenFlynn

Considering applying for the new positions advertised but not enough experience, any chance of being shortlisted with a L8 hdip and less than 2 years experience. For those made it through, any tips on application form writing? Thanks!

red1977

Any hear on offers outside Dublin in the last while?

Nolic

Anyone in on the Software Developer - Senior ICT Specialist in the Civil Service for 2023? I've an interview coming up in May. I haven't worked in Civil Service before and just wondering has anyone any insights on possible questions or things to look out for?

M1ssym00

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120494564#Comment_120494564

I've just done the interview for the Digitial Business Engagement stream. Look at the competencies in the booklet, they'll ask you questions based on those. Have answers prepared for those, based on the STAR system.

I got asked about management versus leadership, the only random thing that came up really

pdawg092

Completed Interview for Digital Business Engagement Stream this week. Anybody have an idea when the results of Panel will be out?

ondafly

are the salary scales for these jobs Engineer grades or base level Civil service grades ?

I saw the recent cybersec job was Engineer grade - and I'm curious is that the first time an IT role was seen as an engineer ?

TestLink

For HEO grade, salary is the below. Unless explicitly specified as EG2 grade, this is the salary that is applicable.

Daith

The grades are HEO. I think the NCSC is the only civil service body using the Engineer grade scheme for IT roles?

The Garda used Engineer Grade 1 for a recent digital forensics role which I thought was really odd as the starting salary is quite low.

The Engineer grade role 2 and above doesn't allow flexi time either from what I remember. May be important for some

M1ssym00

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120615475#Comment_120615475

I mailed PAS yesterday to ask, been two weeks since I did my interview so getting impatient

HugoMyBoss

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120630370#Comment_120630370

Did you hear anything back from PAS?

M1ssym00

Heard back from them yesterday, got placed on the panel :)

peigindubh

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120656587#Comment_120656587

Congrats, which stream as I still have not heard anything

gougeaway

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120656587#Comment_120656587

Congrats on making the panel. I made the panel too! In the application process they did not ask for location preferences, I tried calling the recruitment exec mentioned in the message I received confirming my place on the panel but couldn't get through. I couldn't take a job in Dublin and think I should let them know this out of courtesy. If I email info@publicjobs.ie will it get to the right person?

gougeaway

Just wondering if the results are out for the Software Developer Senior ICT Specialist (Higher Executive Officer) competition in the Civil Service? I got a message on Monday placing me on the panel for the Digital Business Engagement stream but have not heard about the Software Development stream even though I did the interview before it.

HugoMyBoss

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120665762#Comment_120665762

I too am waiting to hear on sofware dev. results.