Munster Team Talk Thread - Beirne After Reading

The Inbetween is mine

sydthebeat wrote: »

The poster means that they hope connacht aren't at full strength next week

Ah... spot my deliberate mistake so

thomond2006

No injuries I think from the game last night?

There might only be a few players from that 23 that start in Galway.

Poorside

thomond2006 wrote: »

No injuries I think from the game last night?

There might only be a few players from that 23 that start in Galway.

With Clermont the week after the first team needs a run out, most haven't played in 3 weeks and it would be madness to put them out against Clermont without decent gametime.

thomond2006

Poorside wrote: »

With Clermont the week after the first team needs a run out, most haven't played in 3 weeks and it would be madness to put them out against Clermont without decent gametime.

They have to put out the first team because this is the Pro14 season on the line. A win and Munster can coast it for the remaining seven games.

yerrahbah

thomond2006 wrote: »

No injuries I think from the game last night?

There might only be a few players from that 23 that start in Galway.

I'm not sure but I thought Healy looked in discomfort coming off

Nothing mentioned in comms or by Munster

phog

thomond2006 wrote: »

No injuries I think from the game last night?

There might only be a few players from that 23 that start in Galway.

Did we have a HIA during the game and did Healy go off injured or was it a case of subbing him.

Anyway, we will have close to a full contingent available for next week and we need to target a win, this game could be the difference between top or runners up spot come season's end.

shootermacg

JVG really put out a team that I couldn't see winning and you could see that on the two tries, rough edges between the back 3 and the centres. We could have done with more size in the pack.

That being said I was happy with the result. I think we have too much for Ulster to handle if it comes to the final but, that game might even come down to nerves.

I was impressed by Roman Salanoa (great name), he's a serious carrier in the loose and his scrummaging is coming along nicely.

It's crazy that Thomas Ahern is only 20. He really looks like a star. Not sure if his body would be up to full games just yet, but I'd certainly be hoping they get him as much minutes as possible.

Dubinusa

Ahern looks the business. Excellent prospect.
Salanoa looks to be ahead of the saffer th? Can't remember his name!!

aloooof

Dubinusa wrote: »

Ahern looks the business. Excellent prospect.
Salanoa looks to be ahead of the saffer th? Can't remember his name!!

Keynan Knox? He does seem to have moved ahead of him alright, and from the brief appearances we've seen, I'd say it looks justified. Two great prospects tho, especially with the 2 incumbents in their 30's.

yerrahbah

Squad update

https://www.munsterrugby.ie/2021/01/05/squad-update-munster-prepare-for-connacht-in-galway/

The Munster squad begin preparations for Saturday's interprovincial clash with Connacht ©INPHO
The Munster squad returned to training on Monday ahead of Saturday’s Guinness PRO14 clash against Connacht at the Sportsground in Galway (7.35pm).
There are no new injury concerns to report.

James Cronin has returned to training this week after recently being unavailable due to an abdomen injury.

Both Dave Kilcoyne (ankle) and Ben Healy (shoulder) made a successful return to action during Saturday’s Guinness PRO14 encounter with Ulster at the Kingspan Stadium.

The team to face Connacht will be named on Friday.

Unavailable: Matt Gallagher (shoulder) RG Snyman (knee) Neil Cronin (knee) Joey Carbery (ankle)



Great to have Cronin back and no fresh injuries.

Start Cronin and unleash Killer after 60 mins

thomond2006

The injury list is emptying out quite a bit in recent weeks.

Kilcoyne, KOB, Ryan, Kleyn, Beirne, Coombes, POM, Stander;
Murray, Healy, Earls, DDA, Farrell, Conway, Haley

Marshall, J Wycherley, Archer, F Wycherley, Cloete, Casey, JJH, Daly

Injured: Snyman, Hodnett, Cronin, Carbery, Gallagher

I reckon Kilcoyne gets the start to get him up to speed for Europe (if those games happen!). Other than that, there shouldn't be any eyes on next weekend. This is a playoff game in itself. Win and Munster will have the conference more or less wrapped up. I think Josh Wycherley has earned a spot in the 23.

phog

Dubinusa wrote: »

Ahern looks the business. Excellent prospect.
Salanoa looks to be ahead of the saffer th? Can't remember his name!!

Is this not a little premature? Salanoa has had very little game time to suggest he has passed anyone out, he does look good but he certainly needs to be starting a few games to be able to claim he is ahead of anyone else in the squad.

yerrahbah

thomond2006 wrote: »

The injury list is emptying out quite a bit in recent weeks.

Kilcoyne, KOB, Ryan, Kleyn, Beirne, Coombes, POM, Stander;
Murray, Healy, Earls, DDA, Farrell, Conway, Haley

Marshall, J Wycherley, Archer, F Wycherley, Cloete, Casey, JJH, Daly

Injured: Snyman, Hodnett, Cronin, Carbery, Gallagher

I reckon Kilcoyne gets the start to get him up to speed for Europe (if those games happen!). Other than that, there shouldn't be any eyes on next weekend. This is a playoff game in itself. Win and Munster will have the conference more or less wrapped up. I think Josh Wycherley has earned a spot in the 23.

I'd largely agree, Id have Cronin ahead of Josh Wycherley, JJ ahead of Healy and JO'D ahead of Cloete

yerrahbah

phog wrote: »

Is this not a little premature? Salanoa has had very little game time to suggest he has passed anyone out, he does look good but he certainly needs to be starting a few games to be able to claim he is ahead of anyone else in the squad.

Salanoa has played 32 mins this season, and Knox 89 mins.

Archer on the other hand has played 403 mins.

Now both Salanoa and Knox were injured for a period but I definitely think they should be getting more game time than they have been

That might give us a better picture of where they are rather than a 10 minute cameo which incudes a huge carry

Jump_In_Jack

They've been rested for two weeks now. Shouldn't it be the same 23 that will feature against Clermont?

The most likely first choice 23 available IMO:

Kilcoyne, N Scannell, Ryan,
Beirne, Kleyn,
Coombes, Stander, O'Mahony,
Murray, Hanrahan,
Earls, de Allende, Farrell, Conway,
Haley,

Marshall, J Cronin, Archer, F Wycherley, O'Donoghue, Casey, Healy, Daly.

phog

yerrahbah wrote: »

Salanoa has played 32 mins this season, and Knox 89 mins.

Archer on the other hand has played 403 mins.

Now both Salanoa and Knox were injured for a period but I definitely think they should be getting more game time than they have been

That might give us a better picture of where they are rather than a 10 minute cameo which incudes a huge carry

With Covid regulations also impacting on who can train/play it's very difficult to know who's getting game time ahead of anyone else.

Posters should really stop trying to second guess who's ahead of who on the basis on a few minutes rugby.

yerrahbah

phog wrote: »

With Covid regulations also impacting on who can train/play it's very difficult to know who's getting game time ahead of anyone else.

Posters should really stop trying to second guess who's ahead of who on the basis on a few minutes rugby.

Ya that's fair enough, I guess my original point is that its hard to judge these players on so little gametime

phog

yerrahbah wrote: »

Ya that's fair enough, I guess my original point is that its hard to judge these players on so little gametime

The 2nd line of my post wasn't aimed at you

yerrahbah

JJ faced the press yesterday, usually an indication that he is line to start at the weekend

thomond2006

yerrahbah wrote: »

JJ faced the press yesterday, usually an indication that he is line to start at the weekend

It wouldn't surprise me. Healy got injured at the wrong time and JJ hit form at the right time. I'm not too concerned for Healy if he's not the starter, he's still very young and will play a lot. If we win in Galway and can coast the rest of the regular season, then Casey and Healy should start the majority of games.

yerrahbah

thomond2006 wrote: »

It wouldn't surprise me. Healy got injured at the wrong time and JJ hit form at the right time. I'm not too concerned for Healy if he's not the starter, he's still very young and will play a lot. If we win in Galway and can coast the rest of the regular season, then Casey and Healy should start the majority of games.

I had backed JJ to start against Quins, cant remember exactly what happened during that game but afterwards I wanted Healy to start against Clermont.

I know JJ had a few issues down in Clermont, but his kicking from the tee was fantastic.

I don't think any of them were particularly hard kicks but they were pressure kicks

phog

I'd say with Crowley and Healy playing in Ravenhill it probably means JJ will start in Galway. He was probably going to start v Leinster in Thomond only it was called off at the last minute.

This is a game we need to win iIt could be the difference of topping the pool or coming 2nd so I think both teams will have strong squads out for it. Munster looking to right the wrongs from the Ulster game while Connacht are on top form from their win v Leinster. Can they put two good performances back to back, from a Munster pov, hopefully not.

mahoney_j

thomond2006 wrote: »

It wouldn't surprise me. Healy got injured at the wrong time and JJ hit form at the right time. I'm not too concerned for Healy if he's not the starter, he's still very young and will play a lot. If we win in Galway and can coast the rest of the regular season, then Casey and Healy should start the majority of games.

He had one great game that’s hardly form ,Jj has always been this way I think he’ll start in Galway ,

yerrahbah

Team named for Connacht

https://www.munsterrugby.ie/preview/team-named-munster-side-to-face-connacht-3/#preview

Munster: Mike Haley; Keith Earls, Chris Farrell, Damian de Allende, Shane Daly; JJ Hanrahan, Conor Murray; James Cronin, Kevin O’Byrne, Stephen Archer; Jean Kleyn, Tadhg Beirne; Gavin Coombes, Peter O’Mahony (c), CJ Stander.

Replacements: Niall Scannell, Josh Wycherley, Keynan Knox, Fineen Wycherley, Billy Holland, Nick McCarthy, Ben Healy, Rory Scannell.

None of Conway, Casey, Ryan, JO'D or Killer named

irelandrover

Very strong team.

Is Casey injured or rested?

The Lost Sheep

irelandrover wrote: »

Very strong team.

Is Casey injured or rested?

Rotated. will most likely be back in for Clermont

Lucas44

What’s the story with Conway lads

Caranica

Lucas44 wrote: »

What’s the story with Conway lads

Last we heard was personal reasons

Cookiemunster

Caranica wrote: »

Last we heard was personal reasons

He's been in the last few sets of training pics with a medical bib on, so he may also be carrying a knock.

phog

If the H/Cup games don't go ahead as scheduled then we should see the postponed Leinster game being played on one of the two weekends, be great to see the two full teams being available for it.