Munster Team Talk Thread - Beirne After Reading

razorblunt

arsebiscuits1 wrote: »

I'd assume someone like Angus Lloyd would be looked at short term if the injuries worsen

case885 wrote: »

Hodnett hasn’t been mentioned on the updates since he was injured, it may be because he’s in the academy.
I’d love to see a Coombes/Hodnett/Stander backrow when he’s back, wouldn’t be short of carrying.

Didn't Hodnett tear his achilles?
I wouldn't be looking for anything until it comes to pre season.

thomond2006

Hodnett had surgery didn't he? I doubt he'll play again this season.

Lost Ormond

thomond2006 wrote: »

Hodnett had surgery didn't he? I doubt he'll play again this season.

Surgery on achilles 2 months ago. Should hopefully get back for end of season

Lost Ormond

Tony Leen the Examiner Sports editor says ROGs column tomorrow will have revelations that may intrigue and infuriate Munster supporters in equal measure

Wonder what that will be about?

theVersatile

Festive Life wrote: »

Tony Leen the Examiner Sports editor says ROGs column tomorrow will have revelations that may intrigue and infuriate Munster supporters in equal measure

Wonder what that will be about?

Hardly La Rochelle GAZUMPING Glasgow for Ben Healys signature?

thomond2006

theVersatile wrote: »

Hardly La Rochelle GAZUMPING Glasgow for Ben Healys signature?

The Inbetween is mine

I would guess about maybe one day wanting to coach Munster... but not anytime soon.... nothing new there

Poorside

Festive Life wrote: »

Tony Leen the Examiner Sports editor says ROGs column tomorrow will have revelations that may intrigue and infuriate Munster supporters in equal measure

Wonder what that will be about?

Timing of PoC being a coach announced, leaving a bad taste in a lot of the players mouths when they are being asked to take pay cuts.

Former Former Former

https://www.irishexaminer.com/opinion/columnists/arid-40207412.html

Not sure why this would infuriate any Munster fans but interesting all the same.

yerrahbah

Former Former Former wrote: »

https://www.irishexaminer.com/opinion/columnists/arid-40207412.html

Not sure why this would infuriate any Munster fans but interesting all the same.

Trying to sign our up and coming players I guess

bayern

something will have to give eventually with Crowley/Healy and Carbery.

bayern

bayern wrote: »

something will have to give eventually with Crowley/Healy and Carbery.

Healy 10
Crowley 12
Carvery 15 if he gets healthy

bayern

Alistair Colossal Sonar wrote: »

Healy 10
Crowley 12
Carvery 15 if he gets healthy

easy to say that on paper..

if Carbery wanted to play 15 he'd still play for Leinster.

Crowley is very intent on playing 10 also by all accounts.

Now if Carbery fails to recover and has to retire, Munster should be able to balance gametime between Crowley/Healy at 10 assuming they move JJ on.

Caranica

Flannery (Jake) also there!

thomond2006

Crowley turned 21 on Wednesday. He's in the first year of the academy. There's hardly any panic with him.

Joey Carbery 2022
JJ Hanrahan 2021

Jack Crowley Year 1
Jake Flannery Year 2
Ben Healy Year 3

Assuming the money works out, I think JJ gets a one year renewal and Healy gets a 2-3 year senior deal. Flannery and Crowley remain in the academy.
If Carbery returns, great. If not, well there's no change to who is available currently. In 2022 there would be plenty wiggle room to release Carbery and/or JJ and move Flannery and/or Crowley to the seniors.

bayern

thomond2006 wrote: »

Crowley turned 20 on Wednesday. He's in the first year of the academy. There's hardly any panic with him.

21.

something will have to give eventually with Crowley/Healy and Carbery.

I said eventually, if he is as good as ROG thinks and looked last season for irish 20's, he won't be in the academy long.

phog

bayern wrote: »

21.



I said eventually, if he is as good as ROG thinks and looked last season for irish 20's, he won't be in the academy long.

I think you're looking to create a issue.

aloooof

bayern wrote: »

something will have to give eventually with Crowley/Healy and Carbery.

Na. We've only 2 senior 10's and unfortunately there's a big injury question mark over one of them. Healy will be given a senior deal this year and they're all still plenty young.

Funny to see things go full circle on here tho, if the issue now is Munster developing too many players.

phog

I think this "issue" stems from ROG's article on the Outhalf position in Munster and that he made a play for Crowley to head to France.

All good news for Munster if everyone was fit but we know ourselves there were games where Rory was covering the outhalf position

thomond2006

We can always just poach a Leinster player anyway. Always good to have that option in hand.

Jump_In_Jack

9. Craig Casey, 10. Conor Murray might be the best combination

thomond2006

I think it's about time to start a Munster shopping trip in Dublin thread.

Who do we want?

aloooof

thomond2006 wrote: »

I think it's about time to start a Munster shopping trip in Dublin thread.

Who do we want?

You should be saving this for the build-up thread, Thomond!

Altho, it's a bit of a nothing game for Munster as we'll still be top of our conference regardless, much bigger game for Leinster. We should probably just send the kids.

(I think I got that about right?).

lawrencesummers

Won’t be long before Leinster come cap in hand looking for an outhalf.

Former Former Former

thomond2006 wrote: »

We can always just poach a Leinster player anyway. Always good to have that option in hand.

Can you look after the next one a bit better please?

This is why we can't have nice things.

The Inbetween is mine

Former Former Former wrote: »

Can you look after the next one a bit better please?

This is why we can't have nice things.

Nothing wrong with Nick McCarthy...besides him not being very good I guess

bayern

The Inbetween is mine wrote: »

Nothing wrong with Nick McCarthy...besides him not being very good I guess

Ben Murphy is the last leinster player signed by Munster.

Former Former Former

The Inbetween is mine wrote: »

Nothing wrong with Nick McCarthy...besides him not being very good I guess

Sure he'd hardly be playing for Munster if he was very good, am I right?

The Inbetween is mine

Former Former Former wrote: »

Sure he'd hardly be playing for Munster if he was very good, am I right?

You're right, he's not playing

Buer

I can certainly see why ROG would look to sign him. He's a talented bloke and his running game would work well on the firmer ground of France than in the sodden pitches of Ireland.

I do feel that, similar to the Leinster back row situation, something has to give in Munster with their outhalves. It might not be Carbery but I do feel that one of the options is going to have to depart in the next 18 months. Jake Flannery was a highly rated player. People forget that he was mostly a full back at U20 level yet still got the nod ahead of Ben Healy at 10 in the JWC when Harry Byrne was injured.

All three of Crowley, Flannery and Healy are now 21 so there's very little between them in terms of profile. Healy will certainly move to a senior deal this summer. Flannery will go into year 3 and Crowley into year 2 of the academy respectively. Flannery is going to be playing for a contract next year and, if he isn't showing up too well, I can see him being cut and Crowley being given the nod.

Even at that, Crowley has a big waiting list ahead of him with 3 established senior outhalves already in the squad (based on the optimistic assumption that Joey Carbery remains fit for any sustained period). I think that Munster will probably continue to look at Crowley as a 12 to try and accommodate him within the squad but they'll need to focus on that fairly intensely if they want him to make it there. This year has been a near write off in terms of development for guys if they aren't in the senior squad with so little rugby being played in the last 12 months.