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Munster Team Talk Thread - Beirne After Reading
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Not all of those Limerick clubs are fielding at older age groups as many of their players are cup tied and playing schools rugby on their 1st/2nd teams at senior level.Munster definitely need to get more players from limerick into the system. It good to see Waterford, west cork and tipp player coming through but limerick should be the second biggest player pool and has 9 rugby clubs playing underage and four schools in the county.
It can only improve munster.
I’m coaching an underage team in the city and the munster RDO’s only seem to want to look at schools players as they can help condition them 5 days a week (and not work weekends
). Fair enough to concentrate on schools as you have access to players more often, but the club players are mostly totally ignored, with munster losing out.
Strong whiff of xenophobia from Murray kinsellas articles lately . I would like to see an all locally produced munster team as much as anyone but signing Jenkins is not going to stop Ahern getting game time experience. Murray and jackman seem to be picking on the Jenkins story a bit too much. Jackman has some form for this type of hubris but surprised at Murray kinsella .
His more reasonable points are in danger of being lost.
All Irish provinces have imports of one form or another, just because Leinster are just about self sustainable at this point in time (but still rely on one or two imports) doesn’t mean its a sin if other provinces need more support.
Regarding Toulouse game tomorrow, don’t expect to win but could do without scannell talking tough to the media with comments like “ coming out swinging”
I’d prefer if he concentrated on not giving away too many penalties in the match and keep his trap shut.
The development officers are far from just interested in schools rugby from my experience, they are going into clubs and helping coach coaches
And i wouldnt call what Murray Kinsella's been saying as xenophobia.
Promoted lot of younger players to senior set up. The academy has improved and underage development squads - u18 clubs/schools and u19 - are doing better and club and schoo competitions are much stronger than in past...What have Munster done to change it so that in 2-3 years time it will not be a conversation?
Based on everything I am hearing they are doing nothing. The current mantra seems to be run up to Leinster or SA to get players in, instead of putting a long term plan in place. Now Maybe I am wrong but a number of people including Lenihan has said the same.
The Munster are not producing players is going on nearly 5 years now, what has changed in that 5 years?0 -
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Munster definitely need to get more players from limerick into the system. It good to see Waterford, west cork and tipp player coming through but limerick should be the second biggest player pool and has 9 rugby clubs playing underage and four schools in the county.
It can only improve munster .
I’m coaching an underage team in the city and the munster RDO’s only seem to want to look at schools players as they can help condition them 5 days a week (and not work weekends ). Fair enough to concentrate on schools as you have access to players more often, but the club players are mostly totally ignored, with munster losing out.
Strong whiff of xenophobia from Murray kinsellas articles lately . I would like to see an all locally produced munster team as much as anyone but signing Jenkins is not going to stop Ahern getting game time experience. Murray and jackman seem to be picking on the Jenkins story a bit too much. Jackman has some form for this type of hubris but surprised at Murray kinsella .
His more reasonable points are in danger of being lost.
All Irish provinces have imports of one form or another , just because Leinster are just about self sustainable at this point in time (but still rely on one or two imports) doesn’t mean its a sin if other provinces need more support.
Regarding Toulouse game tomorrow, don’t expect to win but could do without scannell talking tough to the media with comments like “ coming out swinging”
I’d prefer if he concentrated on not giving away too many penalties in the match and keep his trap shut.
It has nothing to do with xenophobia. I see you pick out Kinsella but mention nothing about Lenihan who was every more upset about the signing when he spoke about it. Of all the media I think the majority of Irish supporters would say Kinsella is one of the best so no point throwing insults at the guys because you don't want to hear the truth......
Would you not think some more money might be worth spending on young players and promotion than on SA imports as Lenihan suggested?0 -
you don't want to hear the truth......
Would you not think some more money might be worth spending on young players and promotion than on SA imports as Lenihan suggested?
How can you pull that line while continuing to ignore Thomond continuously pointing out the nine academy players promoted to senior contracts for next season?
FWIW, I agree calling Murray a xenophobe is a fairly wild accusation by all standards - but the "bleh South Africans blocking development" narrative is a bandwagon at this point which has been run into the ground.
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