Munster Team Talk Thread - Beirne After Reading

Lads what was this breaking news supposed to be?

Dave_The_Sheep

Other than someone trying to make themselves look like they're in the know?

theVersatile

Alistair Colossal Sonar wrote: »

Lads what was this breaking news supposed to be?

Coombes on the bench to keep him rested for the Lions tour.

Newtown90

Alistair Colossal Sonar wrote: »

Lads what was this breaking news supposed to be?

Joey selling his house!

https://evoke.ie/2021/04/23/life-style/joey-carbery-house-for-sale

bennyl10

Newtown90 wrote: »

Joey selling his house!

https://evoke.ie/2021/04/23/life-style/joey-carbery-house-for-sale

No rumours he’s even talked of leaving though..

This (hopefully) is nothing

Caranica

On the mrsc Q&A last week he talked about how isolated he was during the first lockdown. Hopefully that's all that it is.

sebdavis

Newtown90 wrote: »

Joey selling his house!

https://evoke.ie/2021/04/23/life-style/joey-carbery-house-for-sale

Back to Leinster to play 15......

Zeugnis

sebdavis wrote: »

Back to Leinster to play 15......

Belongs to Keenan, sorry.

Caranica

sebdavis wrote: »

Back to Leinster to play 15......

635k won't get him much in Dublin!

Dubinusa

Joey off to..... France?

The Inbetween is mine

I've wondered why BJ Botha wasn't brought into the coaching setup at Munster, he lives locally, coaches locally... surely he'd be a good, and inexpensive fit?

thomond2006

Joey picked a very rural setting and house to live! I'd have thought he would live in the Castletroy area like most of his teammates.

thomond2006

thomond2006 wrote: »

Joey picked a very rural setting and house to live! I'd have thought he would live in the Castletroy area like most of his teammates.

Very odd house/spot for a young lad with a few bob in his pocket you'd have thought.

Buer

Kenya Tasty Peacock wrote: »

Very odd house/spot for a young lad with a few bob in his pocket you'd have thought.

Particularly for a pro athlete who has a huge amount of down time on his hands.

I'd say he's savage at the aul pool at this stage.

theVersatile

"this is a team which has won sixteen of its last twenty games... something which hasn't really been well documented"

POM telling it how it is.

Burkie1203

theVersatile wrote: »

"this is a team which has won sixteen of its last twenty games... something which hasn't really been well documented"

POM telling it how it is.

Desperation stuff from POM.

thomond2006

Burkie1203 wrote: »

Desperation stuff from POM.

Captain being positive shocker.

C'mon.

Burkie1203

https://twitter.com/ultimaterugby/status/1386061887029264384?s=19

thomond2006

Wrong thread Burkie. Here: https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055883024&page=398

molloyjh

theVersatile wrote: »

"this is a team which has won sixteen of its last twenty games... something which hasn't really been well documented"

POM telling it how it is.

Thats probably because most of those were in the Pro14 which was beyond crap this season. The narrative around Munster over the last while has been great against poor sides, poor against the top teams. Which has been completely fair.

thomond2006

molloyjh wrote: »

Thats probably because most of those were in the Pro14 which was beyond crap this season. The narrative around Munster over the last while has been great against poor sides, poor against the top teams. Which has been completely fair.

We've been poor against Leinster. We won in Clermont, granted it was a complete freak of a game but every team in Europe would have bitten your hand off for that final score. We were competitive against Toulouse who are very likely to be a European finalist.

There's a middle ground here.

molloyjh

thomond2006 wrote: »

We've been poor against Leinster. We won in Clermont, granted it was a complete freak of a game but every team in Europe would have bitten your hand off for that final score. We were competitive against Toulouse who are very likely to be a European finalist.

There's a middle ground here.

Yeah, that's fair.

theVersatile

Burkie1203 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/ultimaterugby/status/1386061887029264384?s=19

theVersatile

Another photo for the Hall of Fame...

https://twitter.com/MRSC16/status/1386083150330204170

FrannoFan

thomond2006 wrote: »

We've been poor against Leinster. We won in Clermont, granted it was a complete freak of a game but every team in Europe would have bitten your hand off for that final score. We were competitive against Toulouse who are very likely to be a European finalist.

There's a middle ground here.

Exactly. No shame in losing to leinster and Toulouse.

The issue is the lack of progress through the league which was full of bang average opposition. Coombes Casey and healy have been used well and improved. I think the frustration is everyone would like to see more like that trio being advanced.

A lot of giving out about Jenkins. The reason being in12 months time will he be gone, Munster in the same situation and the opportunity cost of maybe 1000 minutes of game time which could have enhanced another player who will be with munster long term(whycherley/ahern/hodnett whoever) is wasted.

The Inbetween is mine

I think the Jenkins furore is a nonevent.
We've lost some top class players this season...our squad will need some reinforcement ...the likes of Ahern, Coombes & O'Sullivan will get plenty of gametime next season....
but if we want to be involved in all competitions at the seasons end, we need quality reinforcements
also.... Leinster used their 58th player of the season last night... that's what's needed when fighting for all the trophies

thomond2006

FrannoFan wrote: »

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The issue is the lack of progress through the league which was full of bang average opposition. Coombes Casey and healy have been used well and improved. I think the frustration is everyone would like to see more like that trio being advanced.

Look who is being promoted from the academy and who is being let go. The young players are being backed to be the squad depth over some aging players who could have been retained for one or two more seasons. It's up to those players to demand opportunities now.

A lot of giving out about Jenkins. The reason being in12 months time will he be gone, Munster in the same situation and the opportunity cost of maybe 1000 minutes of game time which could have enhanced another player who will be with munster long term(whycherley/ahern/hodnett whoever) is wasted.

If Jenkins can help Munster win against the top opponents, then it's a great signing. I wouldn't assume that he'll be one year and done at Munster. I imagine either Jenkins or Snyman will be retained.

Buer

The Inbetween is mine wrote: »

also.... Leinster used their 58th player of the season last night... that's what's needed when fighting for all the trophies

59. How dare you dismiss Martin Moloney.

In all seriousness, I don't think 50+ players are needed unless you have exceptional circumstances as Leinster had this season between call ups and injuries. The notion of having David Hawkshaw and Cormac Foley as half backs against Munster would be nonsensical generally.

If Munster have a core of 35 players who are capable of slotting into the Champions Cup team then they're in great shape. They can stl win the Pro14 matches with their wider squad.

The problem is that there are a couple of key areas where that simply isn't the case. As good as Munster were last night, the front row was still wobbly. The scrum let Leinster off the hook a number of times and the line out had issues.

There needs to be a concentrated effort to get Wycherley, Salanoa, Barron and Knox significant game time before October to see if they're up to it.

FrannoFan

thomond2006 wrote: »

Look who is being promoted from the academy and who is being let go. This is happening.

Exactly. And the 1000 minutes or so that Jenkins will take up won't be available for those promoted players.

thomond2006

FrannoFan wrote: »

Exactly. And the 1000 minutes or so that Jenkins will take up won't be available for those promoted players.

That's one example but look at what is happening in other positions. Josh Wycherley could end up as the second choice LH behind Kilcoyne who probably has two seasons left. Knox and Salanoa's progress has been disrupted by injuries at times but there's a clear succession plan to Ryan and Archer. Coombes has emerged this season and will be the first choice number eight. Casey is a great option at 9. One of the young 10s will be the backup to Carbery.