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Munster Team Talk Thread - Beirne After Reading

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,154 ✭✭✭✭Neil3030


    War God has found a whole new level of phenomenal today



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,998 ✭✭✭leakyboots


    POM, what a man. They shouldn't have annoyed him early on!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,225 ✭✭✭✭Clegg


    I like the Stormers 12. Picks good lines and runs very powerfully.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,154 ✭✭✭✭Neil3030


    Surprised Casey hasn't been brought on yet. You'd think his shithousery energy and tempo would help as the Stormers tire here...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,178 ✭✭✭Brief_Lives


    Munster look knackered though... he'd be on his own all the time..


    COnor is perfect for this game now.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,599 ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    Its very rare that a sub scrumhalf doesn't improve the team.

    Especially at 70 minutes. I do think its past time to bring him on.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,178 ✭✭✭Brief_Lives


    well, he is on now.... behind sofa time.. don't let fekitoa near the ball craig..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,998 ✭✭✭leakyboots


    I think Gav finally woke up



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,154 ✭✭✭✭Neil3030


    🎵 I loooove Gavin Coombes

    🎵 Score another try from a yard out babyyyy...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,998 ✭✭✭leakyboots


    That fella is an atrocious kicker



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,225 ✭✭✭✭Clegg


    Willemse is a ludicrously talented rugby player. It's an indictment on Stormers coaching set up that they can't get him into the game.



  • Registered Users Posts: 12,920 ✭✭✭✭stephen_n


    Munsters defence in the first 10 minutes of the second half won this game. Which will be hugely satisfying for the players after recent games.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,998 ✭✭✭leakyboots


    Earls has looked very sharp since coming on, great to see



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,154 ✭✭✭✭Neil3030


    And the first half.

    Save for a mix-up in comms between Fekitoa and (I think) Daly, we'd have held them to a single score in the first half.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,225 ✭✭✭✭Clegg


    Not seen as poor a kicking performance from a 10 since Brock James at the RDS.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,317 ✭✭✭gameoverdude




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,998 ✭✭✭leakyboots


    The Fields ringing around the stadium...! What a win this is, huge.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,225 ✭✭✭✭Clegg


    That's a great win.

    Does a huge favour for Ulster as well.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,229 ✭✭✭A-Train


    A great win for Munster



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,154 ✭✭✭✭Neil3030


    I think Healy had a huge immediate impact on the game, but the longer the game went on he was involved in a lot of what went wrong.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,005 ✭✭✭realhorrorshow


    Happy for Munster despite the implications for Connacht. Beat the Sharks next week and I'll forgive you.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 70,127 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Some win!

    Libock will be persona non grata tonight. Unforgivable kicking.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,828 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    Huge result. Sharks and Benneton can't finish above us. Bulls and Connacht can mathematically but looking unlikely.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,599 ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,828 ✭✭✭✭Eod100




  • Registered Users Posts: 231 ✭✭Roxxers


    who got motm ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,154 ✭✭✭✭Neil3030




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,509 ✭✭✭sioda




  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 35,508 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    POMOTM



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,377 ✭✭✭✭phog


    That was a brilliant result, try BP win away from home. Absolutely brilliant for us. I thought Murray was the making of that win along with POM, Kleyn & RGS.

    What a game from Archer, played the full 80 and still putting himself about at the end.

    I know we coughed up a few penalties but my god I'm not sure what the ref was watching, they got away with absolute murder at times.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,458 ✭✭✭kuang1


    I'm very reluctant these days to talk about refs, but that reffing today was bizarre from start to finish.

    Would have to rewatch it to know if it had an outcome on the final scoreboard, but between signalling for penalties that turned out not to be, and the TMO intervening inconsequentially, it was... Bizarre!



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 27,325 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    Was an excellent win. Completely undoes the damage from the Glasgow defeat.

    I'd say 1 point against the Sharks would be enough to avoid dropping to 6th and having to travel to SA, but I actually think Munster are well placed to win that game now. That victory will do wonders for them.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 10,640 Mod ✭✭✭✭aloooof


    Some of my thoughts on that

    • Our best result all season, at a time when we badly needed it.
    • Huge response from the last day, particularly in the 15-20 mins after half time where we disintegrated vs Sharks. Coombes with 2 huge turnovers during that defensive set, and it culminated in that superb Daly try.
    • Our attacking maul looked great all day
    • Thought we went for the poach much more frequently today than we have done all season. Defensively, we had to scramble a lot at times, but did so significantly better than vs Sharks.
    • That pitch was in a shocking condition even before kick-off.
    • POM absolutely outstanding. Thought our entire starting back-row went very well. Kendellen's a bloody nuisance.
    • That hand in the face (twice) on POM... simply has to be more than a penalty.
    • Snyman looks like he has a chance to get back to his pre-injury best. Really encouraging performance again from him.
    • Kleyn quality again, doing pretty much what he does every game for us and Archer deserves a mention too.
    • Injuries to Snyman and Coombes tho, it seemed? Hopefully nothing too bad, 2 huge players for us at the pointy end of the season...


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 10,640 Mod ✭✭✭✭aloooof


    Disagee tbh. Couple of errors, sure, but I actually thought he did really well other than that and should retain the starting jersey for the rest of the season. Thought some of his carrying and passing was excellent.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,458 ✭✭✭kuang1


    Yeah agree here. The errors were blatant, pass intercept and a penalty given away for no clear release spring to mind.

    But I really like what he brings in both attack and defence. He has an edge that Joey just never had, nor Healy. And Rowntree is right imo to finally let him have-at the 10 jersey. Hopefully he has it again next week.



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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 10,640 Mod ✭✭✭✭aloooof


    To me, the biggest error was a missed tackle on their centre for one of the tries, but we saw plenty other really good contributions from him.

    I’d even forgive him the 2 errors you mention, they’re the type of errors you can accept as it comes from trying to do the right thing.

    Intercept passes can be very marginal; take the Daly try, Healy’s pass was so close to being intercepted but instead took 2 players out of the game.

    And if your 10 is abrasive enough to jackal, that can only be a good thing. (I remember him winning a counter-ruck earlier in the season.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,377 ✭✭✭✭phog


    That was some win, a BP win in a stadium where the current URC champions haven't lost since Dec 21.We're the first URC team to win down there in a game where both teams needed the win.

    Great start to the game to get the lead then a great start to the second half with some awesome defense and eventually getting a turnover to give us an opportunity to get upfield which led to a try to take the lead again.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 10,640 Mod ✭✭✭✭aloooof


    Was it just me, or was the ref mic being played, booming out over the stadium btw?



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,458 ✭✭✭kuang1




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,377 ✭✭✭✭phog


    It sounded like the ref mic was broadcast within the stadium while discussing stuff with TMO. This is a great idea and needs to happen more.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,458 ✭✭✭kuang1


    In real time, I was thinking that Healy coming on at 55 minutes was a somewhat spontaneous decision based on a couple of Crowley's errors.

    But in hindsight I think it might be because he's going to start the next match too at 10, and was a pre-planned thing.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 10,640 Mod ✭✭✭✭aloooof




  • Registered Users Posts: 12,920 ✭✭✭✭stephen_n


    To me, the biggest error was a missed tackle on their centre for one of the tries

    It seemed to me they targeted Crowley, that wasn’t an isolated incident with their centre attacking his channel. They got good meterage out of it too. One of the things I like about Crowley is he is not shy in the tackle. He seemed off there last night though.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 10,640 Mod ✭✭✭✭aloooof


    He combined that with some good tackles too tho. Imo, he still defended much better than we’ve seen from Carbery this season.

    An aside, saw this on Twitter:




  • Registered Users Posts: 12,920 ✭✭✭✭stephen_n


    Yep he’s very robust. That’s why it surprised me that they seemed to deliberately target his channel. There is no comparison between his defence and Carberrys. It’s night and day.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,808 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    And he held onto the ball



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,828 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    Looking at the table 1st to 4th are now nailed on and likely in the order they're in. As it stands we'd be playing Glasgow away in a semi-final the weekend of 5th May.

    Connacht could mathematically overtake us if they get 4 match points over us in last game so them with a normal win and us not getting a lbp/tbp or them getting a tbp win and us not getting lbp/tbp.

    Bulls could mathematically overtake us if they get 5 match points over us but they're playing Leinster who will be motivated to keep their unbeaten streak going.

    Bottom line is holding onto 5th is within our control bar things going very badly against us.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,377 ✭✭✭✭phog


    Glasgow have nothing to play for next weekend, they might we'll be beaten by Connacht, we need a LBP at least, possibly two to stay in 5th place



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,828 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    With Connacht playing after us we will be aiming for the win of course. Glasgow likely be more focused on their Challenge Cup semi final against Scarlets the following Saturday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,154 ✭✭✭✭Neil3030


    The main thing for me is that the Carbery-Crowley 10-12 axis is to be avoided at all costs. It provides two targets for dominant defensive hits or big carriers. Too much for the back row and Frisch to stress about.

    Crowley has the 10 shirt in my mind, but I think it's a bit more complex than saying "we're better defensively with him at 10".

    I mean, we are. Crowley is a superior defender. But the big big factor is Feiktoa-Frisch in the centre, which for me has been the foundation of the best defensive performances this season.



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