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Munster Team Talk Thread - Beirne After Reading

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,499 ✭✭✭Sabre0001


    I kinda like them...

    🤪



  • Registered Users Posts: 540 ✭✭✭Limerick91


    No 2 stars on the jerseys?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,321 ✭✭✭davo2001


    €110 for the players home jersey? Get ****ed!


  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭✭ Bruno Sour Ibex


    davo2001 wrote: »
    €110 for the players home jersey? Get ****ed!

    I haven't bought a jersey for years for this exact reason. The prices are outrageous.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,321 ✭✭✭davo2001


    "Old" jersey is now €40 if anyone is interested and if you're a member of the MRSC you can get it for €36.

    https://www.lifestylesports.com/ie/adult-munster-home-jersey-2018-19-57813541.html


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    davo2001 wrote: »
    €110 for the players home jersey? Get ****ed!


    Has 80 euro option


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 12,219 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cookiemunster


    Limerick91 wrote: »
    No 2 stars on the jerseys?


    They've never put stars on the jersey.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,431 ✭✭✭✭phog


    I'm not really a jersey person but I like them, the away one looks great but if I buy a Munster jersey I like to buy a red one and I really like the new home jersey with the full coloured logo.

    The collar isn't a huge issue for me but I can see why people might be annoyed that it doesn't have one.

    I might ask Santa for one this year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,146 ✭✭✭✭Caranica


    Limerick91 wrote: »
    No 2 stars on the jerseys?

    We don't put stars on our Pro14 gear


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    €80 (€72 for MRSC) is madness for a jersey, how much do they even cost to make? I do like the 'PSG' one.


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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 12,219 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cookiemunster


    €80 (€72 for MRSC) is madness for a jersey, how much do they even cost to make? I do like the 'PSG' one.


    I have no idea how people are taken aback by the prices every single year. It's not like they haven't been extortionately expensive for years.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    I have no idea how people are taken aback by the prices every single year. It's not like they haven't been extortionately expensive for years.

    Very true.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,015 ✭✭✭✭Mc Love


    €80 (€72 for MRSC) is madness for a jersey, how much do they even cost to make? I do like the 'PSG' one.

    I doubt they cost that much if you can buy a knock off with a sewn in crest and Adidas sponsor for less than 15 euro


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,431 ✭✭✭✭phog


    Mc Love wrote: »
    I doubt they cost that much if you can buy a knock off with a sewn in crest and Adidas sponsor for less than 15 euro

    How much does Munster make from those knock off jerseys?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    €80 (€72 for MRSC) is madness for a jersey, how much do they even cost to make? I do like the 'PSG' one.


    The pre-order for Leinster is up at 75 quid.....


    All us poor Leinster fans can afford to splash the cash like you rich Munster fans


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    Mc Love wrote: »
    I doubt they cost that much if you can buy a knock off with a sewn in crest and Adidas sponsor for less than 15 euro


    They should introduce quality control at the stadium.....


    Anyone with knock off jerseys out the door.....


    You dont need to buy the newest and greatest, they always reduce last years stock. At least the stuff from last year will still count towards jersey sales


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,015 ✭✭✭✭Mc Love


    phog wrote: »
    How much does Munster make from those knock off jerseys?

    They have their deal with Lifestyle to back them up surely? How much money that Lifestyle get for the jerseys goes back to Munster?
    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    They should introduce quality control at the stadium.....


    Anyone with knock off jerseys out the door.....


    You dont need to buy the newest and greatest, they always reduce last years stock. At least the stuff from last year will still count towards jersey sales

    Haha are you a stand up comedian??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,431 ✭✭✭✭phog


    Mc Love wrote: »
    They have their deal with Lifestyle to back them up surely? How much money that Lifestyle get for the jerseys goes back to Munster?

    That deal is surely dependent on what jerseys are sold by official retailers and would certainly not include knock off jerseys


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    phog wrote: »
    That deal is surely dependent on what jerseys are sold by official retailers and would certainly not include knock off jerseys


    I think it was the same poster who had this discussed on the Munster thread last year.......its the same argument been used now as it was last time....


    The deal is based on how many jerseys the company can sell. So buying knock off's mean that next time Munster try to negotiate they get less money. He/She posted the same stupid things about Lifestyle the last time as well.

    Mr Mclove knows this already but anytime a jersey is mentioned on thread is fires up the same thing.....


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,846 ✭✭✭shootermacg


    I think the necks will be fine, it just doesn't help that the pics are of two skinny lads with long necks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,015 ✭✭✭✭Mc Love


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    I think it was the same poster who had this discussed on the Munster thread last year.......its the same argument been used now as it was last time....


    The deal is based on how many jerseys the company can sell. So buying knock off's mean that next time Munster try to negotiate they get less money. He/She posted the same stupid things about Lifestyle the last time as well.

    Mr Mclove knows this already but anytime a jersey is mentioned on thread is fires up the same thing.....


    Ooh someone has been doing their homework. You'd hope that with customers voting with their wallet that they would reduce the price of jerseys and/or not renew deal with Lifestyle Sports.

    Everyone in the office I work in bought a knock off last year, and multiple ones, better value for money.

    Met loads of people that have decided to vote with their wallet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,431 ✭✭✭✭phog


    Mc Love wrote: »
    Ooh someone has been doing their homework. You'd hope that with customers voting with their wallet that they would reduce the price of jerseys and/or not renew deal with Lifestyle Sports.

    Everyone in the office I work in bought a knock off last year, and multiple ones, better value for money.

    Met loads of people that have decided to vote with their wallet.

    What are you/they contributing to by buying those jerseys? Why bother like?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,146 ✭✭✭✭Caranica


    I think the necks will be fine, it just doesn't help that the pics are of two skinny lads with long necks.

    Wycherley is in the Instagram pics. Definitely not skinny, and I don't think it looks good on him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,015 ✭✭✭✭Mc Love


    phog wrote: »
    What are you/they contributing to by buying those jerseys? Why bother like?

    Because they want to wear the current strip and not pay the exorbitant prices. The knock offs are that good that the average supporter wouldn't be able to tell the difference.

    Surely you can see that pov?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,015 ✭✭✭✭Mc Love


    Caranica wrote: »
    Wycherley is in the Instagram pics. Definitely not skinny, and I don't think it looks good on him.

    D7J4Jx5XYAUxmrW.jpg


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,431 ✭✭✭✭phog


    Mc Love wrote: »
    Because they want to wear the current strip and not pay the exorbitant prices. The knock offs are that good that the average supporter wouldn't be able to tell the difference.

    Surely you can see that pov?

    Not really - as a fan if I want to wear a club's merchandise I do so to contribute to the club.

    I don't do touts, don't buy scarf or hats from street sellers and I don't buy knock down merchandise - as a fan why would I bother.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,015 ✭✭✭✭Mc Love


    phog wrote: »
    Not really - as a fan if I want to wear a club's merchandise I do so to contribute to the club.

    I don't do touts, don't buy scarf or hats from street sellers and I don't buy knock down merchandise - as a fan why would I bother.

    Great if the money is going to the club whereas its not directly going to the club is it? It's going to Lifestyle since they've decided to outsource their retail side of things to it.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 10,666 Mod ✭✭✭✭aloooof


    Mc Love wrote: »
    Great if the money is going to the club whereas its not directly going to the club is it? It's going to Lifestyle since they've decided to outsource their retail side of things to it.

    But it is indirectly going to the club, it's been explained above.

    If you want to wear a knock-off kit fair enough, it's not for me, but go ahead. But at least be honest enough to admit that it's to the detriment of the club.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    Mc Love wrote: »
    Great if the money is going to the club whereas its not directly going to the club is it? It's going to Lifestyle since they've decided to outsource their retail side of things to it.


    This is the exact same tripe you came out with last time....

    It was explained last time to you Lifestyle have nothing to do with it. They get a margin for selling but it is small.

    The big winners are Munster and Adidas.....

    You are trying this time to claim you work in an office :p that's a new one to your arguement.

    I work in office, fans from all over Ireland. None of them would be seen dead in a knock off jersey. You get all sorts including the retro jerseys which are really in.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,773 ✭✭✭connemara man


    Mc Love wrote: »
    Great if the money is going to the club whereas its not directly going to the club is it? It's going to Lifestyle since they've decided to outsource their retail side of things to it.

    The amount of money Lifestyle give Munster for that privilege is judged by the amount of jerseys sold.

    So by buying knock offs you are reducing the bargaining power and money Munster will earn


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    Mc Love wrote: »
    Because they want to wear the current strip and not pay the exorbitant prices. The knock offs are that good that the average supporter wouldn't be able to tell the difference.

    Surely you can see that pov?


    That POV is silly and a bit clueless to be honest


    If you want to support the club then buy the jersey. Or buy the previous years jersey. Buying knock off cr*p is in no way helping the club.....


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,165 ✭✭✭Mr Tickle


    It would be nice if they'd do a retro-style one for the fans. A cotton (ideally long sleeve) version is more comfortable to wear for longer, doesn't start to smell as quickly and is warmer if you're standing on a terrace for a couple of hours.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,846 ✭✭✭shootermacg


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    That POV is silly and a bit clueless to be honest


    If you want to support the club then buy the jersey. Or buy the previous years jersey. Buying knock off cr*p is in no way helping the club.....

    There are pages dedicated to this, please.....not again!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,499 ✭✭✭Sabre0001




  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 10,666 Mod ✭✭✭✭aloooof


    Mr Tickle wrote: »
    It would be nice if they'd do a retro-style one for the fans. A cotton (ideally long sleeve) version is more comfortable to wear for longer, doesn't start to smell as quickly and is warmer if you're standing on a terrace for a couple of hours.

    I'm not mad on long sleeves, but personally I'd love a version of the ~2000/01 jersey, with a proper collar.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 12,219 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cookiemunster


    Mc Love wrote: »
    Great if the money is going to the club whereas its not directly going to the club is it? It's going to Lifestyle since they've decided to outsource their retail side of things to it.


    Actually it's mostly going to Adidas. Lifestyle have paid MR a large sum of money for the deal, so it's not as if MR aren't getting anything out of it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,165 ✭✭✭Mr Tickle


    aloooof wrote: »
    I'm not mad on long sleeves, but personally I'd love a version of the ~2000/01 jersey, with a proper collar.

    Yeah the sleeves are a personal preference but i think there's something to be said for looking at the different needs of the fans vs the players.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 10,666 Mod ✭✭✭✭aloooof


    Mr Tickle wrote: »
    Yeah the sleeves are a personal preference but i think there's something to be said for looking at the different needs of the fans vs the players.

    Hard to disagree with that after I got a gift of a player-fit 2016 red one with white collar a few years ago! ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 534 ✭✭✭Erik Shun


    Mr Tickle wrote: »
    Yeah the sleeves are a personal preference but i think there's something to be said for looking at the different needs of the fans vs the players.

    ie....for fat barstewards :D

    But there is definitely a market for a few retro jerseys to be launched also


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,846 ✭✭✭shootermacg


    Adidas don't really put much work into the jersey, probably costs 50 cents to make as well. I miss the stitched crest, bloody least they could do for the price they charge.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,165 ✭✭✭Mr Tickle


    Erik Shun wrote: »
    ie....for fat barstewards :D

    But there is definitely a market for a few retro jerseys to be launched also

    Even something along the lines of this:
    https://www.lifestylesports.com/ie/adult-ireland-ls-home-classic-jersey-57819130.html

    That's not a great shirt but you could do something to that effect that echos the style of the players shirt. Maybe with the stripes on the shoulders or something.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,015 ✭✭✭✭Mc Love


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    This is the exact same tripe you came out with last time....

    It was explained last time to you Lifestyle have nothing to do with it. They get a margin for selling but it is small.

    The big winners are Munster and Adidas.....

    You are trying this time to claim you work in an office :p that's a new one to your arguement.

    I work in office, fans from all over Ireland. None of them would be seen dead in a knock off jersey. You get all sorts including the retro jerseys which are really in.....

    You should really do comedy. I do work in an office, and I got a number of inquiries from this forum and other forums this time last year as to how to avail of said prices for the jersey, whether or not this was followed up on, I dont know so I'm not alone in buying a knock off.

    As you know Lifestyle have a lot to do with it and in fact one of the posts below state that Adidas are the big winners out of it considering how much it costs to be made.

    Like I said previously the quality of these knock-offs are as good as if not even better than the official ones.
    aloooof wrote: »
    But it is indirectly going to the club, it's been explained above.

    If you want to wear a knock-off kit fair enough, it's not for me, but go ahead. But at least be honest enough to admit that it's to the detriment of the club.

    Honestly I'm sure the club will be fine if people decide not to buy the official one and the little they make off it after Lifestyle, Adidas get their cut etc. There is other merchandise, like training gear etc that cant be bought elsewhere which I'll have to buy from LS if I dont like something.
    The amount of money Lifestyle give Munster for that privilege is judged by the amount of jerseys sold.

    So by buying knock offs you are reducing the bargaining power and money Munster will earn

    Surely LS have that money upfront as part of the deal of being exclusive to Munster.
    Actually it's mostly going to Adidas. Lifestyle have paid MR a large sum of money for the deal, so it's not as if MR aren't getting anything out of it.

    See ^^^^ money is already in the hands of MR. It would only impact the club if they chose to renew the deal, which I hope they dont.
    There are pages dedicated to this, please.....not again!

    Sorry Shooter. I'll stop now, although the comic responses from Shefwedfan are too good. :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,366 ✭✭✭yerrahbah


    So which one is the forwards coach and which one is the backs coach?

    They both seem fine, will need to see them in person before making a judgement


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,726 ✭✭✭✭Squidgy Black


    Adidas don't really put much work into the jersey, probably costs 50 cents to make as well. I miss the stitched crest, bloody least they could do for the price they charge.

    The screen printing stuff is awful, looks cheap and tacky compared to the stitching.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    Mc Love wrote: »
    You should really do comedy. I do work in an office,


    McLove office


    images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT-nZSaxC0YCuF7Uz-Ro4yMOLKtB2arOhplLsy1Kp2wIaKpzn8CKg


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 10,666 Mod ✭✭✭✭aloooof


    Mc Love wrote: »
    Surely LS have that money upfront as part of the deal of being exclusive to Munster.

    Yes. And if enough people buy knock-offs instead of the legit jersey, next time there'll be less money up front.

    But then you know this, and are trying to justify it anyways.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,015 ✭✭✭✭Mc Love


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    McLove office

    images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT-nZSaxC0YCuF7Uz-Ro4yMOLKtB2arOhplLsy1Kp2wIaKpzn8CKg

    Funny
    aloooof wrote: »
    Yes. And if enough people buy knock-offs instead of the legit jersey, next time there'll be less money up front.

    But then you know this, and are trying to justify it anyways.

    True I do know it, and have said so, I dont think having an exclusive monopoly on who retails Munster Merchandise is a good idea.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,201 ✭✭✭troyzer


    Prendergast to Racing so he won't be in Munster anytime soon.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,431 ✭✭✭✭phog


    Mc Love wrote: »
    Great if the money is going to the club whereas its not directly going to the club is it? It's going to Lifestyle since they've decided to outsource their retail side of things to it.

    Do you know the exact details of the Lifestyle deal with Munster rugby?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    phog wrote: »
    Do you know the exact details of the Lifestyle deal with Munster rugby?


    This has been done before with the same poster if memory is correct. It will go on and on and on.....better off ignore it.

    Next time someone mentions the cost of a jersey etc, same poster will come on with same posts and start it all again......

    From old Munster Superthread
    Except they're not crappy knock offs. The quality of the jersey is the same as the ****e adidas give us, plus the crest and logo are sewn on as opposed to just printed on and we're expected to pay extra for those?

    Personal decision though if you want to throw your money to Lifestyle. Munster has their money already, from the deal with lifestyle.

    Take a stab which poster said the above :p in September 2018


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