Munster Team Talk Thread - New season title pending....

sydthebeat

Former Former wrote: »

You'd wonder if Nucifora is that bothered about the likes of Johnson though?

More likely guys are looking at the success of others who have moved and are being more pro-active about looking for moves themselves.

i would think situations like Johnson are the exact reason Nuicforas role exists.

randomrb

Former Former wrote: »

You'd wonder if Nucifora is that bothered about the likes of Johnson though?

More likely guys are looking at the success of others who have moved and are being more pro-active about looking for moves themselves.

I think that the pathway has been opened by nucifora and he has started to build a culture of moving players.

This has meant players are moving off their own bat more, its becoming more obvious that you arent going to be picked for Ireland without regular game time, jack mcgrath is the best example, he could struggle to be on the bench for most of the world cup due to the fact that he didnt recover his starting place after injury

Henry Ford III

Caranica wrote: »

But Tyler and JJ cover two other positions as well so won't necessarily block 10 all the time?

B.J. wasn't blocked by anyone.

Tyler and JJ have not enjoyed great seasons by any means, and B.J. still failed to force his way past them.

His defensive game isn't really up to scratch either.

arsebiscuits1

Suprising to see Jones and Fla gone.

If I were in the Munster backroom I'd be having a serious look at getting Noel McNamara in.

He's the Leinster A and Ireland Under 20s coach so a senior role such as this would make perfect sense. I know he cut his teeth in Clongowes as a coach but he's native to Clare.

Extremely highly rated in Ireland he was even sent to New Zealand last summer for experience.

Former Former

sydthebeat wrote: »

i would think situations like Johnson are the exact reason Nuicforas role exists.

Maybe, but I'd have thought situations like Carbery and Jordi Murphy were more his remit. We're talking about the fourth choice at Munster. Would he be involved at that level? I have no idea tbh.

Squatter

Former Former wrote: »

Maybe, but I'd have thought situations like Carbery and Jordi Murphy were more his remit. We're talking about the fourth choice at Munster. Would he be involved at that level? I have no idea tbh.

But we're also talking about potentially the second choice in Ulster. Presumably that would bring him into DN's bailiwick.

Mr Tickle

Former Former wrote: »

Maybe, but I'd have thought situations like Carbery and Jordi Murphy were more his remit. We're talking about the fourth choice at Munster. Would he be involved at that level? I have no idea tbh.

Like you, i'm just guessing but I'd imagine he could be involved in a lot of the trading that goes on in the provinces. His office is probably one of the first calls the agents for the players would make. Similarly the provinces probably let him know any time they're in the market for a position.

if the two can match up then happy days for all concerned.

Edit: you also have to think that he needs to fill the working week. How many Carbery/Murphy/McGrath sized moves happen every year?

arsebiscuits1

Former Former wrote: »

You'd wonder if Nucifora is that bothered about the likes of Johnson though?

More likely guys are looking at the success of others who have moved and are being more pro-active about looking for moves themselves.

It's such a pivotal position.

I would say there is not too many Tightheads, Scrumhalves and Outhalves playing at a high level that Nucifora isn't aware of

jm08

arsebiscuits1 wrote: »

Suprising to see Jones and Fla gone.

If I were in the Munster backroom I'd be having a serious look at getting Noel McNamara in.

He's the Leinster A and Ireland Under 20s coach so a senior role such as this would make perfect sense. I know he cut his teeth in Clongowes as a coach but he's native to Clare.

Extremely highly rated in Ireland he was even sent to New Zealand last summer for experience.

Noel went to UL (PE) and cut his teeth in rugby coaching in Glenstal! He is definately a Munster supporter - I was in Clongowes one day a few years ago (work related) and introduced to him as a fellow Munster fan - he was wearing a Munster tracksuit!

arsebiscuits1

jm08 wrote: »

Noel went to UL (PE) and cut his teeth in rugby coaching in Glenstal! He is definately a Munster supporter - I was in Clongowes one day a few years ago (work related) and introduced to him as a fellow Munster fan - he was wearing a Munster tracksuit!

All the more reason to make him an offer!!

Former Former

arsebiscuits1 wrote: »

It's such a pivotal position.

I would say there is not too many Tightheads, Scrumhalves and Outhalves playing at a high level that Nucifora isn't aware of

I'm sure he's aware of it, would just doubt he's driving it.

Donald Trumped

Looks like Rob Howley is a done deal re attack and skills coach.

For forwards coach, what about Shaun Edwards, even though the chance of that happening are slimmer than I winning the lotto tonight. Personally don't be surprised if Simon Easterby is in the reckoning or perhaps JP Ferreira taking that role in addition to his role in the defense.

Underwhelmed would be my first instinct of those likely appointments. The issue re getting a backs coach from New Zealand or Australia is that Munster Rugby are not in a good place financially at this time, even though they along with the support of the IRFU have addressed this issue, which will pay dividends in the long term. Still though I have huge concerns regarding the Munster coaching ticket for next season. That's unless they come up with some kind of major surprise up their sleeves.

ScrubsfanChris

Donald Trumped wrote: »

Looks like Rob Howley is a done deal re attack and skills coach.

For forwards coach, what about Shaun Edwards, even though the chance of that happening are slimmer than I winning the lotto tonight. Personally don't be surprised if Simon Easterby is in the reckoning or perhaps JP Ferreira taking that role in addition to his role in the defense..

Source?

The Lost Sheep

jm08 wrote: »

I'm not too sure what is to be learned in France that you won't learn in Ireland. For starters in France the larger your cheque book is, the better your team/coaching staff is - in Ireland the Provinces have to make do with what they have. ROG has enough experience now to take on backs coach of Munster. He was head hunted as backs coach for the Crusaders and is on his way to winning his second super rugby title as backs coach. Joe Schmidt doesn't even have one super rugby title on his cv as backs coach

Plenty in different environment especially somewhere you wont have directly played in. I dont see ROG coming in as an assistant here. He is going about things to only really coming back as head coach or nothing.

arsebiscuits1 wrote: »

Suprising to see Jones and Fla gone.

If I were in the Munster backroom I'd be having a serious look at getting Noel McNamara in.

He's the Leinster A and Ireland Under 20s coach so a senior role such as this would make perfect sense. I know he cut his teeth in Clongowes as a coach but he's native to Clare.

Extremely highly rated in Ireland he was even sent to New Zealand last summer for experience.

I wouldnt go for a McNamara yet. Still incredibly inexperienced at higher level. Has done well in roles but very little coaching at adult level as its all been age grade national sides or just schools rugby

Donald Trumped wrote: »

Looks like Rob Howley is a done deal re attack and skills coach.

For forwards coach, what about Shaun Edwards, even though the chance of that happening are slimmer than I winning the lotto tonight. Personally don't be surprised if Simon Easterby is in the reckoning or perhaps JP Ferreira taking that role in addition to his role in the defense.

Underwhelmed would be my first instinct of those likely appointments. The issue re getting a backs coach from New Zealand or Australia is that Munster Rugby are not in a good place financially at this time, even though they along with the support of the IRFU have addressed this issue, which will pay dividends in the long term. Still though I have huge concerns regarding the Munster coaching ticket for next season. That's unless they come up with some kind of major surprise up their sleeves.

Done deal?? where you seeing that. No chance of Easterby going for the role IMO. Not going to step back for this.

Erik Shun

ScrubsfanChris wrote: »

Source?

Twitter!

ScrubsfanChris

Erik Shun wrote: »

Twitter!

So none then? :pac:

Donald Trumped

ScrubsfanChris wrote: »

So none then? :pac:

No just reading some comments from different rugby forums, outside of boards.ie suggesting the Howley will get the backs and skills gig. I still hope that this won't be the case, but knowing how from poor finances to poor management on behalf of Munster rugby, the dream of mine and so many Munster fans for a man like Wayne Smith or even Stephen Larkham to take over the coaching of Munster backs in the not too distant future is sadly not going to happen.

ScrubsfanChris

Donald Trumped wrote: »

No just reading some comments from different rugby forums, outside of boards.ie suggesting the Howley will get the backs and skills gig. I still hope that this won't be the case, but knowing how from poor finances to poor management on behalf of Munster rugby, the dream of mine and so many Munster fans for a man like Wayne Smith or even Stephen Larkham to take over the coaching of Munster backs in the not too distant future is sadly not going to happen.

I agree with your points, but "different rugby forums" aren't accredited news sources.
To say it's a done deal is completely jumping the gun.

phog

There's a rumour in Limerick that Eddie O'Sullivan is coming in to the set up and that Fla is giving up on coaching. No word on what Felix is up to.

budhabob

phog wrote: »

There's a rumour in Limerick that Eddie O'Sullivan is coming in to the set up and that Fla is giving up on coaching. No word on what Felix is up to.

EOS was a very capable coach, but alot of time has passed. This is not inspiring if true.

Erik Shun

budhabob wrote: »

EOS was a very capable coach, but alot of time has passed. This is not inspiring if true.

Tbf, he has a brilliant rugby brain, his analytical criticism of Munsters attack has been spot on during games..he can see what they were doing and where the issues were occuring....so he might actually be an astute appointment in tandem with Howley

Eod100

When was last coaching role EOS had? Game has changed a fair bit in those years.

Erik Shun

Eod100 wrote: »

When was last coaching role EOS had? Game has changed a fair bit in those years.

Deccie hasn't done too badly after time out of the game.
Eddie would be a good signing for us.... but it's all conjecture at the moment, and his quotes a few days ago about the timing of Jones departure..and the about Chris Farrell would make me think it's probably not on...don't think that bell can be unrung

Squidgy Black

Eod100 wrote: »

When was last coaching role EOS had? Game has changed a fair bit in those years.

Biarritz in 2015 for a season, and then Belvedere for a year in 2017.

Shefwedfan

Eod100 wrote: »

When was last coaching role EOS had? Game has changed a fair bit in those years.

He is on a huge amount of podcast and TV shows....so he is watching nearly every game of rugby in Ireland which the provinces are involved in and also AIL I bet as well.....


He has a huge rugby knowledge and he was a good coach with Ireland.



He might be a very wise investment for Munster


When Leinster brought in the NZ guys for a few weeks it was seen as astroke of genius because of his experience. Could be seen in the same context with Eddie

troyzer

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Eod100 wrote: »

When was last coaching role EOS had? Game has changed a fair bit in those years.

He is on a huge amount of podcast and TV shows....so he is watching nearly every game of rugby in Ireland which the provinces are involved in and also AIL I bet as well.....


He has a huge rugby knowledge and he was a good coach with Ireland.



He might be a very wise investment for Munster


When Leinster brought in the NZ guys for a few weeks it was seen as astroke of genius because of his experience. Could be seen in the same context with Eddie

Wayne Smith and EOS is hardly a fair comparison.

Shefwedfan

troyzer wrote: »

Wayne Smith and EOS is hardly a fair comparison.

Graham Henry you mean...

troyzer

Shefwedfan wrote: »

troyzer wrote: »

Wayne Smith and EOS is hardly a fair comparison.

Graham Henry you mean...

Him too.

It's early.....

Eod100

Shefwedfan wrote: »

He is on a huge amount of podcast and TV shows....so he is watching nearly every game of rugby in Ireland which the provinces are involved in and also AIL I bet as well.....


He has a huge rugby knowledge and he was a good coach with Ireland.



He might be a very wise investment for Munster


When Leinster brought in the NZ guys for a few weeks it was seen as astroke of genius because of his experience. Could be seen in the same context with Eddie

Don't disagree with his past experience and knowledge he's done a fair bit of pundit stuff in meantime but think it's fairly different from a direct coaching role the past few years at high level. Not saying it wouldn't work out but I thought we'd go more with someone still with current role currently.

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