If a man wants a woman......

lainey_d_123

ArchXStanton wrote: »

There's women out there that prefer guys with beards and tattoos, there's men out there that prefer blondes to brunettes etc and do you know what? More power to them, or are you trying to tell me I should be dating/sleeping with someone I don't find attractive? How odd

You can fancy whoever you like. The point is that the women who are interested in you are in....your age range. I remember being 23 and getting hit on by men of 35+ and I found them quite pathetic even then, and that was before the full realisation of the power balance involved there became clear to me.

You really don't see the irony of saying women 5 years younger than you who are interested in you are too old for you when you're busy hitting on women ten years younger who are busy dating men their own age?

Gimme A Pound

Most people are in relationships with people their own, or close to, their own age. I know a cohort of men like to put women down in relation to their age (they don't tend to be men who have much joy getting women so it's a way of making them feel better) but reality is different.

Nothing wrong with men finding themselves more drawn to younger women though - that's not something they can control. But those who actually get such women (most guys won't be able to get much younger women) won't feel the need to express their frustration by belittling the women they're not interested in (men belittling women - totally fine; women belittling women - unacceptable and deserving of revenge based on age alone).

lainey_d_123

Ted Johnson wrote: »

Older man and younger woman is a natural and desirable parternship. It's quite possible to attract a woman 10 years younger than you. Im in my 30s and will only consider a relationship with a woman in her 20s.

I've known men in their 40s who were able to seduce girls in their early twenties but these guys had George Clooney tier good looks and Ted Bundy levels of charm.

We all know men like you. We call you creeps. It was creepy when I was in my twenties myself and now I'm in my early thirties, I find it even more so. Everything you've written on here comes across as predatory and gross.

izzyflusky

Ted Johnson wrote: »

Well women in their 20s beat women in their 30s in the looks department, no one can deny that.

But I've found women in their 20s to be so much more fun, playful and just plain nicer than women in their 30s who can sometimes be bitter wenches.

I'll brace myself for the inevitable trade in then .

lainey_d_123

Ted Johnson wrote: »

Well women in their 20s beat women in their 30s in the looks department, no one can deny that.

But I've found women in their 20s to be so much more fun, playful and just plain nicer than women in their 30s who can sometimes be bitter wenches.

Translation: Women in their 20s are easier to manipulate and mould into what I want them to be because they're at a disadvantage when it comes to life experience. Women in their 30s are harder to control because they have the nerve to answer me back and challenge me.

Ariadne

Ted Johnson wrote: »

Well women in their 20s beat women in their 30s in the looks department, no one can deny that.

But I've found women in their 20s to be so much more fun, playful and just plain nicer than women in their 30s who can sometimes be bitter wenches.

You know I did find that at the stroke of midnight on my 30th birthday I turned into a bitter old wench!

ginandtonicsky

lainey_d_123 wrote: »

We all know men like you. We call you creeps. It was creepy when I was in my twenties myself and now I'm in my early thirties, I find it even more so. Everything you've written on here comes across as predatory and gross.

Don't mind choresex dude, he's been around here years bleating on about all the early 20s nubile girlfriends he's planning on having at some stage in the future. Maybe the next few years might be better for him and he and his 45,000 boards personalities will have less time to tell us about how mother nature doesn't want any women above 30 to be getting notions about themselves

Ted Johnson

lainey_d_123 wrote: »

We all know men like you. We call you creeps. It was creepy when I was in my twenties myself and now I'm in my early thirties, I find it even more so. Everything you've written on here comes across as predatory and gross.

You consider those guys creeps because they had no game and probably had to down a pint of vodka before they even had the guts to approach you.

So, I don't blame you for being bitter. From what I see on my excursions, the standard of game among Irishmen is abysmal.

izzyflusky

Going back to the topic, I asked my OH about the question OP posed and to my shock he agreed. He said that if the man doesn't do any chasing, generally, he is likely not interested.
He could be just talking about himself too.

mrcheez

Hercule Poirot wrote: »

You are honestly saying that women see you in the lobby of hotels, follow you to your room and then knock on the door...for what exactly? Swap phone numbers...?

I call bullsh1te...

Nope, pretty much one thing. It's happened a few times on various trips.

Women outside Ireland be aggressive

Zorya

Ted Johnson wrote: »

Well women in their 20s beat women in their 30s in the looks department, no one can deny that.

But I've found women in their 20s to be so much more fun, playful and just plain nicer than women in their 30s who can sometimes be bitter wenches.

You are quite the catch. I can't decide whether it's your panoramic self awareness or the poetry of your romantic side that I find most beguiling... Sigh....

izzyflusky

mrcheez wrote: »

Nope, pretty much one thing. It's happened a few times on various trips.

Women outside Ireland be aggressive

I think I'd feel quite scared if something like that happened to me. Also can't imagine a lot of men appreciating it (considering they seem to be taken aback when approached by a woman).

mzungu

Ted Johnson wrote: »

You consider those guys creeps because they had no game and probably had to down a pint of vodka before they even had the guts to approach you.

So, I don't blame you for being bitter. From what I see on my excursions, the standard of game among Irishmen is abysmal.

I imagine those excursions look something like this....

Gimme A Pound

lainey_d_123 wrote: »

Translation: Women in their 20s are easier to manipulate and mould into what I want them to be because they're at a disadvantage when it comes to life experience. Women in their 30s are harder to control because they have the nerve to answer me back and challenge me.

Spot on!

Ted Johnson

Mya Poor Greenery wrote: »

Spot on!

Hey look, I'm 31 and girls younger than me seem to like me, so why shouldnt I make hay while the sun shines? This won't last forever.

And it works both ways I've noticed. Older women seem to have a lot of contempt for younger guys.

NSAman

Johnnyhpipe wrote: »

If he’s good looking its romantic. If he’s ugly its harassment.

But... but.. add a large wallet into the equation and suddenly Mr. Butt Ugglie becomes a catch.

Gimme A Pound

Ted Johnson wrote: »

Hey look, I'm 31 and girls younger than me seem to like me, so why shouldnt I make hay while the sun shines? This won't last forever.

Totally agreed. But what you said previously about women in their 20s being nicer and women in their 30s being bitter - that's of course not true, and seemed to hint at what Lainey said. Mixture of all kinds of personalities among both age groups. I have read men also saying that women in their 20s are head-wrecking, bitchy and horrible to men, whereas women in their 30s are more laidback. It's a mixture of all.

Anyway you're barely out of your 20s - you're not really the "older guy" yet.

lainey_d_123

Ted Johnson wrote: »

You consider those guys creeps because they had no game and probably had to down a pint of vodka before they even had the guts to approach you.

So, I don't blame you for being bitter. From what I see on my excursions, the standard of game among Irishmen is abysmal.

Quite the opposite. They were charming and practised PUAs even before PUAs were a thing. I'm sure it worked on a lot of young women who were less cynical than me.

Gimme A Pound

NSAman wrote: »

But... but.. add a large wallet into the equation and suddenly Mr. Butt Ugglie becomes a catch.

If he's good-looking or rich and rapes her, it's ok too (that's the natural progression to the above bitter views).

wyf437gn6btzue

Sometimes the juice simply isn`t worth the squeeze, irregardless of the desire.

Ted Johnson

Mya Poor Greenery wrote: »

Totally agreed. But what you said previously about women in their 20s being nicer and women in their 30s being bitter - that's of course not true, and seemed to hint at what Lainey said. Mixture of all kinds of personalities among both age groups. I have read men also saying that women in their 20s are head-wrecking, bitchy and horrible to men, whereas women in their 30s are more laidback. It's a mixture of all.

Anyway you're barely out of your 20s - you're not really the "older guy" yet.

Yeah agree, I am generalizing. But it's what I'm experiencing right now. I just want a girl younger than me. I think her being 5-7 years younger would be ideal.

I've had ons with girls in the 19-22 age range and yeah, they would probably make head wrecking gfs.

Ted Johnson

Mya Poor Greenery wrote: »

If he's good-looking or rich and rapes her, it's ok too (that's the natural progression to the above bitter views).

Said no man ever.

Ted Johnson

lainey_d_123 wrote: »

Quite the opposite. They were charming and practised PUAs even before PUAs were a thing. I'm sure it worked on a lot of young women who were less cynical than me.

Fair enough. I personally admire those men.

lainey_d_123

Ted Johnson wrote: »

Yeah agree, I am generalizing. But it's what I'm experiencing right now. I just want a girl younger than me. I think her being 5-7 years younger would be ideal.

I've had ons with girls in the 19-22 age range and yeah, they would probably make head wrecking gfs.

Why?

Ted Johnson

lainey_d_123 wrote: »

Why?

They look better and I find them a lot more fun to be around.

Zorya

Soiree Bounty wrote: »

Translation: You don't like men learning how to seduce women becauee it means they don't have to pay for sex with subservience.

Are you multiplying in real time? :eek:

Ted Johnson

Soiree Bounty wrote: »

Translation: You don't like men learning how to seduce women becauee it means they don't have to pay for sex with subservience.

Are you the mythical 'chorsex guy'? If so, it's an honour to finally meet you.

mzungu

Soiree Bounty wrote: »

Translation: You don't like men learning how to seduce women becauee it means they don't have to pay for sex with subservience.

Ted Johnson wrote: »

Are you the mythical 'chorsex guy'? If so, it's an honour to finally meet you.

WrigleysExtra

lainey_d_123 wrote: »

Translation: Women in their 20s are easier to manipulate and mould into what I want them to be because they're at a disadvantage when it comes to life experience. Women in their 30s are harder to control because they have the nerve to answer me back and challenge me.

Women in their 30's who are single are desperately trying to find a man and they realise that men don't want them as the women in their 20's are far hotter. Sounds like you're bitter.

There's too many self entitled women today who will end up being crazy cat ladies as men don't want to deal with their crap.

Gimme A Pound

Ted Johnson wrote: »

Said no man ever

Some guys use that line about even groping. It's ok if he's good looking or rich. It's pretty misogynistic.

lainey_d_123

WrigleysExtra wrote: »

Women in their 30's who are single are desperately trying to find a man and they realise that men don't want them as the women in their 20's are far hotter. Sounds like you're bitter.

There's too many self entitled women today who will end up being crazy cat ladies as men don't want to deal with their crap.

You say this like any woman who is single after 30 is some picky, entitled princess who thought nobody was good enough when she was in her twenties. You do realise women are human beings, not cars? Life happens, some women marry at 25 and then get dumped (by someone like you, who swapped them for a newer model), some simply don't meet anyone they mutually click with, some are struggling with illness and don't have time or energy for dating.

Your attitude really doesn't say much for men, does it? How simple and sad is that, to date a woman much younger because she's hotter? And for how long will that last? If she's 26, that's only four years to 30. Will you then ditch her for another 26-year-old? Or start to treat her like crap and remind her daily that she isn't as hot as she used to be, so she better make up for it in other ways?

And sorry to tell you thus, but I know plenty of women in their thirties who have zero interest in finding a man because they're sick of their sh1t. They've been there and done that and realised they're better off alone.

Gimme A Pound

WrigleysExtra wrote: »

Women in their 30's who are single are desperately trying to find a man and they realise that men don't want them as the women in their 20's are far hotter. Sounds like you're bitter.

There's too many self entitled women today who will end up being crazy cat ladies as men don't want to deal with their crap.

Guys who aren't woman haters just don't go on like that.

Nollog

Mya Poor Greenery wrote: »

Some guys use that line about even groping. It's ok if he's good looking or rich. It's pretty misogynistic.

Are you sure you're not picking up on sarcasm there? Anyone who says it's okay because he's rich may be making a comment on the judicial system more so the right to molest someone.

lainey_d_123

Mya Poor Greenery wrote: »

Guys who aren't woman haters just don't go on like that.

It's crazy how many men detest women though, isn't it? They are everywhere.

Gimme A Pound

lainey_d_123 wrote: »

It's crazy how many men detest women though, isn't it? They are everywhere.

I actually don't agree they're commonplace in reality Lainey. It's much more of an internet thing in my opinion.

lainey_d_123

/\/ollog wrote: »

Are you sure you're not picking up on sarcasm there? Anyone who says it's okay because he's rich may be making a comment on the judicial system more so the right to molest someone.

That's not what it means at all. Misogynists tell themselves that all women are shallow little b1tches who will overlook any kind of behaviour or assault once the man is either good looking or rich, or both.

The funniest thing about all this is that the idiots who date women 10-15 years younger than them are extremely likely to attract one of the minority of women who are shallow gold diggers, because any normal attractive 23-year-old dates someone equally attractive of her own age, not some 39-year-old with a bald patch and a beer belly. Yet these men never seem to stop and ask themselves, what does this hot 23-year-old see in ME? The delusion is comical.

Wibbs

lainey_d_123 wrote: »

And for how long will that last? If she's 26, that's only four years to 30. Will you then ditch her for another 26-year-old?

True enough. You'd swear women had a lit fuse that goes bang at 30.

29 year old woman. Earlier.

lainey_d_123

Mya Poor Greenery wrote: »

I actually don't agree they're commonplace in reality Lainey. It's much more of an internet thing in my opinion.

People on the internet are real people. They just wouldn't dare air these disgusting views in public in their everyday life. You can tell who they are, though. They can't help but give it away through comments they make.

Wibbs

lainey_d_123 wrote: »

because any normal attractive 23-year-old dates someone equally attractive of her own age, not some 39-year-old with a bald patch and a beer belly.

To be fair that's assuming the 39 year old bloke is bald and fat. To be further fair a goodly number are, but still.

Ted Johnson

lainey_d_123 wrote: »

The funniest thing about all this is that the idiots who date women 10-15 years younger than them are extremely likely to attract one of the minority of women who are shallow gold diggers, because any normal attractive 23-year-old dates someone equally attractive of her own age, not some 39-year-old with a bald patch and a beer belly. Yet these men never seem to stop and ask themselves, what does this hot 23-year-old see in ME? The delusion is comical.

You really do sound like a bitter cat lady.

Pac1Man

lainey_d_123 wrote: »

It's crazy how many men detest women though, isn't it? They are everywhere.

They are not everywhere. They're just louder than normal folk.

lainey_d_123

Wibbs wrote: »

To be fair that's assuming the 39 year old bloke is bald and fat. To be further fair a goodly number are, but still.

How many 39-year-olds are as hot as a fit 23-year-old? How many have the same stamina in bed? How many are going to want the same life experiences as a 23-year-old? You'd have to offer something pretty damn special to make up for being so old.

Wibbs

Soiree Bounty wrote: »

I'm sensing a lot of anger and resentment in you,

Jurgen Klopp

Lainey I actually agree with some of your earlier posts in here but Jesus you are really starting to come across as extremely bitter at this stage

givyjoe

lainey_d_123 wrote: »

How many 39-year-olds are as hot as a fit 23-year-old? How many have the same stamina in bed? How many are going to want the same life experiences as a 23-year-old? You'd have to offer something pretty damn special to make up for being so old.

God, you're such a charmer.

Nollog

lainey_d_123 wrote: »

That's not what it means at all. Misogynists tell themselves that all women are shallow little b1tches who will overlook any kind of behaviour or assault once the man is either good looking or rich, or both.

Oh, I was just replying to the idea of someone saying to someone else that causing harm is okay.
Maybe it's that he word misogynist has been overused as late.

But there are situations when it's seemingly okay to be an *, like making prison rape jokes or when a female teacher molests a male student, these situations are okay to make light of but only in those specific events, or society at large would have me believe.
Maybe I'm keeping the right and wrong crowd at the same time...

lainey_d_123

Ted Johnson wrote: »

You really do sound like a bitter cat lady.

I couldn't give a flying fook what you think. I love how you misogynists think 'cat lady' is some massive insult. I'd way rather be chilling out with a glass of wine, a film and a cat than spending time with you. Some of the happiest, most chilled out women I know are single and middle aged, cats or not. Strange that, isn't it? I think you know that deep down and that's what scares you. It must be hard not to be needed anymore, not to hold any power.

Wibbs

lainey_d_123 wrote: »

How many 39-year-olds are as hot as a fit 23-year-old? How many have the same stamina in bed? How many are going to want the same life experiences as a 23-year-old? You'd have to offer something pretty damn special to make up for being so old.

39 is "so old"? Jaysus luv it's not the Middle Ages. Never mind that you're not comparing like with like. I've known plenty of 25 year olds, men and women, who were a right state physically and plenty of 35 year olds, men and women who were anything but.

Pac1Man

Y'all need Jesus.

lainey_d_123

Soiree Bounty wrote: »

This is a classic case of "reflection"or whatever they call it in pyschobabble circles. You feel hurt that younger women are more attractive than older women so you want to make older men feel hurt by asserting that younger men are more attractive.

Why would I feel hurt? Almost everyone is more attractive when they're younger. So what? You think I'm so fragile that my self worth depends on whether some sad, patronising man thinks I'm hot?

You do realise that, unlike you, I've been a 23-year-old woman? I didn't choose to date the older men who hit on me, because they had nothing at all to offer me besides maybe money, and I wasn't interested in that. Hardly groundbreaking, is it? You'd have to be pretty bloody arrogant and delusional not to wonder what an attractive young woman with her pick of men would see in you.