If a man wants a woman......

mzungu

Ted Johnson wrote: »

Don't really care about your offence over the Cat Ladies. But let's talk about pua.

Seems as a man you can't win. You're expected to be born a natural. Most men aren't, some are hopless with women. I certainly was in my early 20s.

So I worked and studied and improved my game. But that now makes me the bad guy.

Oh well, at the end of the day I'm the one laughing.

I think we both know that's not true.

mzungu

Feisar wrote: »

A good song. It always reminds me of that scene in the Commitments where your man is in the confessional and he thinks Marvin Gaye sung it. So the priest corrects him "That was Percy Sledge!"

Funny scene. Great movie.

Gimme A Pound

Ted Johnson wrote: »

It's not waffle though. Maybe you should reading some yourself? And I don't mean a Guardian tier review of the Mystery Method.

As for the Cat Ladies, well they exist. Are bitter single older women a protected class now?

Do you know any? I'm sure they exist but I think tv exaggerates things too. Sometimes being single full stop on their part seems to be equated with bitter. It's enjoyment from guys who were turned down by women when they were younger (this has been admitted here) but they are not all unhappy with being single, and their detractors come off as far more resentful.

Wibbs

mzungu wrote: »

right-thinking

Aside: And not picking on you M. That's a pair of words that has always worried me when it precedes, well any word really. It's almost always whatever the "mature" considered notion of what any particular society has agreed upon, and must not be questioned, and every such society is utterly convinced is correct and immutable. "Right thinking". Ohhhh... nope. *Shudder*.

Ted Johnson

Mya Poor Greenery wrote: »

Do you know any? I'm sure they exist but I think tv exaggerates things too. Sometimes being single full stop on their part seems to be equated with bitter. It's enjoyment from guys who were turned down by women when they were younger (this has been admitted here) but they are not all unhappy with being single, and their detractors come off as far more resentful.

I've met them yes. And when I was younger and more naive I would sometimes approach older women. The contempt some older woman have for younger men would make your head spin. I don't know why when they literally could have Chad every night of the week.

Anyway who cares? Im drunk now. The gender war serves no purpose. We should all just get along.

Delusional virgin or bitter roastie, who cares. We're all human at the end of the day.

ginandtonicsky

Ted Johnson wrote: »

they literally could have Chad every night of the week.

No-one in Ireland is called Chad. Literally no-one.

Ted Johnson

ginandtonicsky wrote: »

No-one in Ireland is called Chad. Literally no-one.

Chad is slang for a sexually successful man. I.E. a stud, a player.

Chad is the guy who rocks up to the nightclub, skips the que because everyone loves him, and leaves with two supermodels for a threesome.

ArchXStanton

Ted Johnson wrote: »

Chad is slang for a sexually successful man. I.E. a stud, a player.

Chad is the guy who rocks up to the nightclub, skips the que because everyone loves him, and leaves with two supermodels for a threesome.

More slang from the Dorito Lords in the US

mzungu

Wibbs wrote: »

Aside: And not picking on you M. That's a pair of words that has always worried me when it precedes, well any word really. It's almost always whatever the "mature" considered notion of what any particular society has agreed upon, and must not be questioned, and every such society is utterly convinced is correct and immutable. "Right thinking". Ohhhh... nope. *Shudder*.

Actually, that's a fair point Wibbs. Using "right-thinking" was the wrong choice of words there. Mea culpa.

The point I was trying to convey was that (outside of impressionable youngsters) most men outside of their early twenties should be able to see PUA for the waffle that it is.

lainey_d_123

Ted Johnson wrote: »

I've met them yes. And when I was younger and more naive I would sometimes approach older women. The contempt some older woman have for younger men would make your head spin. I don't know why when they literally could have Chad every night of the week.

Anyway who cares? Im drunk now. The gender war serves no purpose. We should all just get along.

Delusional virgin or bitter roastie, who cares. We're all human at the end of the day.

Wait....now you're saying older women can 'have Chad any night of the week'? You just said they were all bitter old cat loving spinsters. Which is it?

Ted Johnson

lainey_d_123 wrote: »

Wait....now you're saying older women can 'have Chad any night of the week'? You just said they were all bitter old cat loving spinsters. Which is it?

Most young men are desperate for sex and if Stacey is not putting out then yes, you can have Chad.

lainey_d_123

Ted Johnson wrote: »

Most young men are desperate for sex and if Stacey is not putting out then yes, you can have Chad.

So basically everything you said was total rubbish?

Ted Johnson

lainey_d_123 wrote: »

So basically everything you said was total rubbish?

No

lainey_d_123

Ted Johnson wrote: »

No

Well a minute ago, it was older women are dried up old spinsters who can't get a man. Now they can have any hot young man they want, but are rejecting them.

Ted Johnson

lainey_d_123 wrote: »

Well a minute ago, it was older women are dried up old spinsters who can't get a man. Now they can have any hot young man they want, but are rejecting them.

You can! I wouldn't say no to an older woman for a ons (my oldest has been 36).

Do you really think a horny 19 year old with beer goggles would turn down sex? (Provided she's non fat, non hideous).

lainey_d_123

Ted Johnson wrote: »

You can! I wouldn't say no to an older woman for a ons (my oldest has been 36).

Do you really think a horny 19 year old with beer goggles would turn down sex? (Provided she's non fat, non hideous).

We're not talking about what men want. You said most older women turned you down. Funny how these old bitter spinsters who are so desperate for a hot young man can be so choosy, eh?

Ted Johnson

lainey_d_123 wrote: »

We're not talking about what men want. You said most older women turned you down. Funny how these old bitter spinsters who are so desperate for a hot young man can be so choosy, eh?

I'm not Chad and never will be I'm talking about guys who look like Chris Hemsworth and have sociopathic levels of charm.

I've moved in their circles, I've seen how the other half live.

givyjoe

Mya Poor Greenery wrote: »

Is what she's saying really so wrong though? And it gets said to women constantly.

Eh, yes it really is and it's also how she's saying it. Going off the deepend calling lads creeps and mysoginists while showing nay an ounce of class in her own posts. Comes across as quite the misandrist herself in the posts so far.

Wibbs

"Stacey" and "Chad"? The last time I looked down that rabbit hole - in fairness, it's been a while - those two descriptors were far more from the so called "Incels", rather than "PUA", or even "MGTOW" types. Of the three broad types I would say the PUA types at least had my respect, regardless of their theories, for one aspect alone. Now we can go back and forth on their philosophy and methods, but they saw themselves as not being up to scratch and sought to improve themselves. The other two took the same "red pill" and decided Game Over, we're taking our balls home(literally) and are not gonna play any more.

pleas advice

Stacey's mom, has got it goin' on

Ted Johnson

Wibbs wrote: »

"Stacey" and "Chad"? The last time I looked down that rabbit hole - in fairness, it's been a while - those two descriptors were far more from the so called "Incels", rather than "PUA", or even "MGTOW" types. Of the three broad types I would say the PUA types at least had my respect, regardless of their theories, for one aspect alone. Now we can go back and forth on their philosophy and methods, but they saw themselves as not being up to scratch and sought to improve themselves. The other two took the same "red pill" and decided Game Over, we're taking our balls home(literally) and are not gonna play any more.

Sounds like you are describing the black pillers rather than the red pilled. Red pilled would be, for example, coming to the realisation that women in the western world actually have it better than men. It's not sinking into depression and giving up i.e. black pilled.

As for the mgtowers? Those guys are idiots. 'I'm going to boycott something I never had a chance of getting in the first place.' Yeah ok buddy.

lainey_d_123

givyjoe wrote: »

Eh, yes it really is and it's also how she's saying it. Going off the deepend calling lads creeps and mysoginists while showing nay an ounce of class in her own posts. Comes across as quite the misandrist herself in the posts so far.

Not calling 'lads' those things. I'm calling you specifically those things. Most men I know would be ashamed to be associated with people like you.

givyjoe

lainey_d_123 wrote: »

Not calling 'lads' those things. I'm calling you specifically those things. Most men I know would be ashamed to be associated with people like you.

Excuse me? Can you please point me to my post that would 'justify' such a personal attack??

GMSA

I'm thinking of becoming a participant on Channel 4s Naked Attraction. My lack of piercings and tattoos might come against me but it's worth a shot.

Feisar

Regarding the PUA stuff. I read a few books on the subject and picked up a few tips here and there. One doesn't need to dive in and start running pre scripted routines. Now being a tall sexy fukcer was a bigger help!

Feisar

Ted Johnson wrote: »

Sounds like you are describing the black pillers rather than the red pilled. Red pilled would be, for example, coming to the realisation that women in the western world actually have it better than men. It's not sinking into depression and giving up i.e. black pilled.

As for the mgtowers? Those guys are idiots. 'I'm going to boycott something I never had a chance of getting in the first place.' Yeah ok buddy.

Can you explain how women have it better?

Fair amount of sherry spilled here last night, I reckon.

Pac1Man

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

Fair amount of sherry spilled here last night, I reckon.

I wonder do people who go deep down the rabbit hole of meaningless arguing on the internet feel in any way better afterwards.

Such empty drivel to fill a day.

The Crowman

biko wrote: »

Don't trust a man will make the first move.

Men can be shy, and are also fairly stupid..

As stupid as that random generalisation?

Galwayguy35

lainey_d_123 wrote: »

How many 39-year-olds are as hot as a fit 23-year-old? How many have the same stamina in bed? How many are going to want the same life experiences as a 23-year-old? You'd have to offer something pretty damn special to make up for being so old.

You gave out yards to the guy a few pages back who said women in their 20s are hotter than those in their 30s and now you say a fella who is 39 has no lead in his pencil and they are not 'hot and fit'.

givyjoe

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

You gave out yards to the guy a few pages back who said women in their 20s are hotter than those in their 30s and now you say a fella who is 39 has no lead in his pencil and they are not 'hot and fit'.

Shut up you misogynistic creep :rolleyes:

(Ps. I'm not serious!)

lainey_d_123

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

You gave out yards to the guy a few pages back who said women in their 20s are hotter than those in their 30s and now you say a fella who is 39 has no lead in his pencil and they are not 'hot and fit'.

Show me where I disagreed that women in their twenties are generally hotter than women in their thirties. Show me where I ever said otherwise. I'm waiting.

I love how you're trying to make out that I'm being hypocritical when that's not the case at all. I'm saying it's hilarious that men think women over 30 are old and unattractive and don't stop to consider how they look themselves to a woman who is 10-15 years younger. That's the only irony here.

wyf437gn6btzue

Feisar wrote: »

Can you explain how women have it better?

men get harsher punishments for the same crime women commit
men die younger
men are exponentially more likely to die by suicide
men tend to have to work higher risk jobs
men by majority have to work more hours
men tend to have lower education levels than women
men have far less custody right to children than women

lainey_d_123

Melissa Colossal Grain wrote: »

men get harsher punishments for the same crime women commit
men die younger
men are exponentially more likely to die by suicide
men tend to have to work higher risk jobs
men by majority have to work more hours
men tend to have lower education levels than women
men have far less custody right to children than women

That's a very short list. Says it all, really.

Mostly BS as well. Men 'have to work more hours'? No they don't. I don't have a single financial advantage from being a woman. Men tend to have lower education levels...well, whose fault is that? They have the same opportunities as women.

Feisar

Melissa Colossal Grain wrote: »

men get harsher punishments for the same crime women commit
men die younger
men are exponentially more likely to die by suicide
men tend to have to work higher risk jobs
men by majority have to work more hours
men tend to have lower education levels than women
men have far less custody right to children than women

A lot of that is personal choice in fairness.

Floppybits

lainey_d_123 wrote: »

Bald and fat aren't insults. They're descriptions. I don't know many men of nearly 40 who have the same looks and head of hair they had at 20, or the same energy.

'Cat lady' is just a way to make women feel afraid of being older and single.

Eh Hello, I'm 45, fitter now than I have ever been. Have hair, no beer belly, all my own teeth, no fillings or anything like that. We are out there.

Baggly

lainey_d_123 wrote: »

So basically everything you said was total rubbish?

lainey_d_123 wrote: »

Not calling 'lads' those things. I'm calling you specifically those things. Most men I know would be ashamed to be associated with people like you.

Mod

lainey_d please take a break from this thread for a day.

Note to all. Personal attacks are not allowed. Stop it or cards will follow.

givyjoe wrote: »

Eh, yes it really is and it's also how she's saying it. Going off the deepend calling lads creeps and mysoginists while showing nay an ounce of class in her own posts. Comes across as quite the misandrist herself in the posts so far.

This post is also without class. You cant throw muck without getting dirty yourself, so please leave it to the mods.

cannotlogin wrote: »

Sweeping generalisation or some truth in the fact that if a man wants a woman he'll chase her or let her know and if he doesn't he's just not interested?

This evening's conversation with some friends with the above nearly accepted as 100% accurate.

So what you think?

I know all men are different but in general what do you think.

Everyone get back on topic (above). Failure to do so will see bans if needed, because i am loath to close a thread as interesting as this one.

Floppybits

What the hell happened here in the last 24 hours?

wyf437gn6btzue

lainey_d_123 wrote: »

That's a very short list. Says it all, really.

Mostly BS as well. Men 'have to work more hours'? No they don't. I don't have a single financial advantage from being a woman. Men tend to have lower education levels...well, whose fault is that? They have the same opportunities as women.

its not a definitive list so the length is irrelevant, just a few simple points.

Men also do tend to work more hours than women too, by nature of their employment rather than presupposed on their gender. Like if a water mains bursts at 2 in the morning, generally the people repairing it are men....

I`d agree with you on the education bit, I chose not go to college so par for the course on that one

Feisar

From what I can gather:

Hotties of both sexes are a limited resource.

Once one hits 35 their penis or vagina withers away.

People are angry.

Zorya

Feisar wrote: »

From what I can gather:

Hotties of both sexes are a limited resource.

Once one hits 35 their penis or vagina withers away.

People are angry.

Hahaha

Floppybits

Feisar wrote: »

From what I can gather:

Hotties of both sexes are a limited resource.

Once one hits 35 their penis or vagina withers away.

People are angry.

Hopefully it doesn't fall off.ðŸ˜

Feisar

Floppybits wrote: »

Hopefully it doesn't fall off.ðŸ˜

I'll let you know how I fair, 35 shortly. Wife is determined to wear it to nothing anyway.

Floppybits

Feisar wrote: »

I'll let you know how I fair, 35 shortly. Wife is determined to wear it to nothing anyway.

Well i have hit 45 and the shuttle is in the hanger as Homer Simpson would say.

Some madness posted on here in the last 24 hours or so.

Mister Vain

Pac1Man wrote: »

I wonder do people who go deep down the rabbit hole of meaningless arguing on the internet feel in any way better afterwards.

Such empty drivel to fill a day.

Indeed. It can go on for days sometimes. That's a serious commitment.

Floppybits

Mister Vain wrote: »

Indeed. It can go on for days sometimes. That's a serious commitment.

Winning the Internet is serious business, don't ya know.

Baggly

Mister Vain wrote: »

Indeed. It can go on for days sometimes. That's a serious commitment.

Floppybits wrote: »

Winning the Internet is serious business, don't ya know.

Get back on topic people.

Stab*City

Chase is better than the catch.

Zorya

Pter wrote: »

Get back on topic people.

Don't know about anyone else but must admit I'm feeling a bit nervous to say anything...




How about all my sisters in law - 6 of them - are over 40, heck they are mostly over 45, and they are, to a woman, really gorgeous. A group photo of them is Cosmo levels of cuteness. Have no idea where this falling off a cliff after 30 came from? A certain percentage of people pre 30 are really good looking, a certain percentage of people after 30 are really attractive, both sexes, pre 30 people have some advantage in youth but it's not like they are champions of the game of life to be fresh and pretty pre 30. The champions start emerging post 30 when people get the face that reflects their life and personality and the amount of kicks in the arse life saw fit to dole out.

Floppybits

Zorya wrote: »

Don't know about anyone else but must admit I'm feeling a bit nervous to say anything...

How about all my sisters in law - 6 of them - are over 40, heck they are mostly over 45, and they are, to a woman, really gorgeous. A group photo of them is Cosmo levels of cuteness. Have no idea where this falling off a cliff after 30 came from? A certain percentage of people pre 30 are really good looking, a certain percentage of people after 30 are really attractive, both sexes, pre 30 people have some advantage in youth but it's not like they are champions of the game of life to be fresh and pretty pre 30. The champions start emerging post 30 when people get the face that reflects their life and personality and the amount of kicks in the arse life saw fit to dole out.

As the saying goes horses for courses.

For me if I was available I would prefer to date women in and around my own age basically because we would hopefully want the same things at this stage of life. Where as dating a younger person, yes great for the ego and I'm sure lots of fun but the thoughts of going out clubbing and drinking would put me off.