European Indoor Championships 2019- Glasgow 1st-3rd March

Sunny Dayz

Her face going around each lap, so focused and determined, didn’t show any signs of struggling. Impressive run, her last lap shows how powerful she is.

Chivito550

jamule wrote: »

Theres a handy 2nd or 3rd there for the taking. If Muir takes it on for the last 3 laps she shpuld get 2nd. If its slow the czexh and polish one will be dangerous

There’s no handy 2nd there. She won’t beat Ennaoui from Poland. No chance.

Bronze is a chance but she was in a bad way after the heats. Fortunately she has loads of recovery time.

horsebox1977

What happened to Ciara Neville?

Flynnboslice

horsebox1977 wrote: »

What happened to Ciara Neville?

Didn’t have the qualifying time during the window (7.40 Sb)

OOnegative

Flynnboslice wrote: »

Didn’t have the qualifying time during the window (7.40 Sb)

Why was she listed in one of the heats as a DNS so?

horsebox1977

She was not listed at all in the official starting line up, Colin Jackson did mention that she was a DNS.

She's here
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D0kGABxWoAUV9km.jpg:large

But not here!
https://scontent-dub4-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/52833103_2259040110793478_8943281826319826944_n.jpg?_nc_cat=102&_nc_ht=scontent-dub4-1.xx&oh=e26b7fe139ab964639179a177d473caf&oe=5CE256EF

OOnegative

horsebox1977 wrote: »

She was not listed at all in the official starting line up, Colin Jackson did mention that she was a DNS.

She's here
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D0kGABxWoAUV9km.jpg:large

But not here!
https://scontent-dub4-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/52833103_2259040110793478_8943281826319826944_n.jpg?_nc_cat=102&_nc_ht=scontent-dub4-1.xx&oh=e26b7fe139ab964639179a177d473caf&oe=5CE256EF

That was obviously it, just took it she was a DNS seeing her name was mentioned.

OOnegative

OOnegative wrote: »

That was obviously it, just took it she was a DNS seeing her name was mentioned.

https://www.the42.ie/european-indoor-athletics-championships-2019-molly-scott-4521018-Mar2019/

Neville pulled out due to illness.

horsebox1977

OOnegative wrote: »

That was obviously it, just took it she was a DNS seeing her name was mentioned.

Why I was curious is that Jackon mentioned her name as a DNS - which if fair enough.

But her name was not listed at the time as a starter - which is why I was so curious about it.
https://www.european-athletics.org/externalmodules/AT/pdf/ATW006900_C51B.pdf

Anyway, she must have withdrawn due to illness and the start list updated.

No conspiracy here!

Very disappointing to see Scott not making the semi.

Limpy

Looking forward to the men's 3k. Expecting a good battle for the silver and bronze. Who will jakob Ingebregson out kick with 4 laps to go for gold.

walshb

Come on, Mark!

walshb

FFS!

El CabaIIo

Bollix. Always dangerous to be hanging around the back

skyblue46

walshb wrote: »

FFS!

Terribly unfortunate...

walshb

Front, back, middle....can’t legislate for these things, or guarantee they won’t get you...

wgtomblin

Desperately unlucky. He looked comfortable up until then.

walshb

Protest won’t see a rerun!

tbukela

Any chance of him getting a place in the final as mentioned in commentary?

walshb

Mark doesn’t deserve a place...

Places are earned...

They cannot rerun the race...

Flynnboslice

tbukela wrote: »

Any chance of him getting a place in the final as mentioned in commentary?

Appeal lodged, small chance given learmonth came up on the inside

El CabaIIo

walshb wrote: »

Mark doesn’t deserve a place...

Places are earned...

They cannot rerun the race...

They don't rerun on appeal. They just give an athlete a place in the final if the appeal is passed.

walshb

El CabaIIo wrote: »

They don't rerun on appeal. They just give an athlete a place in the final if the appeal is passed.

I get that...

But you cannot do that either...

What about the other runners who didn’t qualify..

I am gutted, but it’s the nature of the beast..

Nobody can say had Mark not tripped he qualifies...

raiders11

Am informed, track referee is a Donegal man

El CabaIIo

walshb wrote: »

I get that...

But you cannot do that either...

What about the other runners who didn’t qualify..

I am gutted, but it’s the nature of the beast..

Nobody can say had Mark not tripped he qualifies...

They ran unimpeded races. This isn't the first time this has ever happened, rulings like this have been in Athletics for donkeys years

Flynnboslice

walshb wrote: »

El CabaIIo wrote: »

They don't rerun on appeal. They just give an athlete a place in the final if the appeal is passed.

I get that...

But you cannot do that either...

What about the other runners who didn’t qualify..

I am gutted, but it’s the nature of the beast..

Nobody can say had Mark not tripped he qualifies...

Learmonths DQ actually changes things greatly as English was the person directly involved in this which adds weight to his case

pconn062

walshb wrote: »

I get that...

But you cannot do that either...

What about the other runners who didn’t qualify..

I am gutted, but it’s the nature of the beast..

Nobody can say had Mark not tripped he qualifies...

Who says they cannot, you? Learmont was disqualified, so a protest can be lodged. Sara Treacy was advanced to the final in a 3k steeple a few years ago in similar circumstances. You can't go up the inside and impede an athlete if the space is not there.

walshb

Relax, lads. I just disagree with it..

What about lad who finished 4th in both heats?

Mark fell. Impeded or not. He, or any other faller in theses type races have to take it...

walshb

The correct and fair way for “all the non qualifiers” is for the two semis to be raced again...

But that won’t happen...

El CabaIIo

walshb wrote: »

Relax, lads. I just disagree with it..

What about lad who finished 4th in both heats?

Mark fell. Impeded or not. He, or any other faller in theses type races have to take it...

Next time Euro indoors are on, each country should have an enforcer runner like hockey who goes around hacking and spiking all the favourites to knock them out of the heats so their fellow strongest Country man contender goes into a final with all the favourites missing.

walshb

Well, if I was the lad who finished 4th I wouldn’t be happy if the person who finished last got awarded a finals spot ahead of me...no matter why or how he finished last...

I’d lodge a protest...

Mike Oxlong

walshb wrote: »

Well, if I was the lad who finished 4th I wouldn’t be happy if the person who finished last got awarded a finals spot ahead of me...no matter why or how he finished last...

I’d lodge a protest...

But you'd have finished no better than 4th anyways..so appeal denied!

walshb

Mike Oxlong wrote: »

But you'd have finished no better than 4th anyways..so appeal denied!

Yes. Denied. I’d be appealing on the basis of it being unfair, and calling for a rerun...

To think that a faller, who comes in behind you then gets awarded a finals race because of an impending incident is just ridiculous...

I’m bemused how anyone can think this fair...

El CabaIIo

walshb wrote: »

Well, if I was the lad who finished 4th I wouldn’t be happy if the person who finished last got awarded a finals spot ahead of me...no matter why or how he finished last...

I’d lodge a protest...

I thought you'd be too busy running around more circles...

OOnegative

walshb wrote: »

Yes. Denied. I’d be appealing on the basis of it being unfair, and calling for a rerun...

To think that a faller, who comes in behind you then gets awarded a finals race because of an impending incident is just ridiculous...

I’m bemused how anyone can think this fair...

pconn062

He's been reinstated. Good.

OOnegative

pconn062 wrote: »

He's been reinstated. Good.

Great stuff.

tbukela

pconn062 wrote: »

He's been reinstated. Good.

Delighted for him.

walshb

Delighted for him...

jamule

Just watched it now, Leatmluths fault, stupid and impatient. English was always gonna be reinstated.

raiders11

Great stuff, go and win it now

jamule

ENGLISH M (IRL) Fifth 1:50.70
It´s ridiculous that someone can go on the inside and get away with it. Hopefully they will disqualify him. I felt really good which is frustrating but what can you do? He pushed in the inside of me and tried to claim it was my fault.

LEARMONTH G (GBR) Disqualified UPDATED
This is the second time in a few weeks that this has happened, so I´m just a bit devastated. I don´t really know what caused the accident I need to watch it back. It might have been my fault, I don´t know. I´m really pleased Jamie is going through though he really deserves it. I have been voted team captain and that´s an honour I´m going to take away from this event. I´m going to wake up tomorrow and it´s a new day. I´m going to come in and cheer for my team. I´m not just going to be a drip at the back.

skyblue46

walshb wrote: »

Delighted for him...

Ah that's good....I think someone hacked your account over the past hour

walshb

skyblue46 wrote: »

Ah that's good....I think someone hacked your account over the past hour

I am genuinely happy.

If that is the ruling so be it. I just think it’s wrong..the rule, that is!

Had Mark finished 4th and some faller came in behind him and got a finals place due to a protest I’d be the exact same...

walshb

Some talent this lad...

Joe_ Public

walshb wrote: »

I am genuinely happy.

If that is the ruling so be it. I just think it’s wrong..the rule, that is!

Had Mark finished 4th and some faller came in behind him and got a finals place due to a protest I’d be the exact same...

There are far better people than me here to point out the faulty logic of this position - and indeed already have above. The guy finishing 4th is totally irrelevant to the argument, he or she has had their chance, run their race and proved not good enough. If there wasn't an appeals procedure in place for incidents occurring during the race, you're leaving it open to the scenario, as outlined above, of athletes being taken out with no recourse but to bitterness and feelings of being hard done by. From watching the odd bit of speed skating now and again, it's exactly the same procedure. Even more common in that sport from my occasional observation.

walshb

Gerry made a good point about a qualified athlete now having to share a lane...

The final is no longer a fair and equal race to all...ludicrous...

That is not sport in its purest sense...

Hope he wins. Great athlete, Irish too...

My view is purely from a sporting perspective...

Btw, what if this happens in the final? Rule?

Chivito550

walshb wrote: »

Gerry made a good point about a qualified athlete now having to share a lane...

The final is no longer a fair and equal race to all...ludicrous...

That is not sport in its purest sense...

Hope he wins. Great athlete, Irish too...

My view is purely from a sporting perspective...

Btw, what if this happens in the final? Rule?

Lanes are pretty much irrelevant over 800m.

By the way, in sprints races aren't fair and equal for all on an indoor track. Those on the outside lanes have an unfair advantage.

walshb

Chivito550 wrote: »

Lanes are pretty much irrelevant over 800m.

By the way, in sprints races aren't fair and equal for all on an indoor track. Those on the outside lanes have an unfair advantage.

Yes, but they have their own lane.

These 800 lads are big men. 2 of the 7 are not in the same race...

They have to share a lane for a portion of the race...

Anyway, do you know the rule for the final should an athlete be illegally impeded? If what happens yesterday happens today?

28064212

walshb wrote: »

Yes, but they have their own lane.

These 800 lads are big men. 2 of the 7 are not in the same race...

Which has already happened in 4 of the 7 800m races so far. In fact, in heat 2 in the first round, despite having a DNS athlete in lane 1, the two runners in lane 3 still shared a lane. So yes, it is still the same race

walshb

Dead heat if you ask me!