Tottenham Hotspur vs Arsenal, Premier League, 12:30pm, BT Sport 1

Corholio

How anyone could think that it was a soft penalty I don't know? Shouldn't have counted that far of course but a definite penalty. Mustafi all over that type of incident as well, much like Xhaka commits idiotic fouls.

blueser

Tom Mann Centuria wrote: »

Wasn't a dive, definite penalty. Nicely put away.

Agreed. Once the offside wasn't given, it's a nailed on penalty. I can never figure out how Mustafi gets anywhere near a PL side.

Soups123

Kiith wrote: »

It was definitely a foul, but he was offside, so it shouldn't have counted.

It was very soft, ref had let so much go today but pulls that one.

No way it’s given opposite end, the Kane factor helped make the decision

Corholio

Soups123 wrote: »

It was very soft, ref had let so much go today but pulls that one.

No way it’s given opposite end, the Kane factor helped make the decision

Barged Kane in the back. Nowhere near soft. Previous incidents only have relation to 'consistency' but none to an individual decision.

L'prof

I don’t care whether or not it was a pen, it was a gift from the linesman. Def offside!

Soups123

Corholio wrote: »

Barged Kane in the back. Nowhere near soft. Previous incidents only have relation to 'consistency' but none to an individual decision.

It wasn’t a barge it was a nudge. Listen it’s an acceptable peno in the grand scheme of things, it was also offside

Loafing Oaf

Corholio wrote: »

How anyone could think that it was a soft penalty I don't know?

Because the foul was on Harry Kane doncha know. If he was the victim of a Keane-Haaland challenge the Einsteins on here would accuse him of playacting...

Utopia Parkway

Linesman got himself in a bad position so couldn’t see around the players nearest to him.

theoneeyedman

Soups123 wrote: »

It was very soft, ref had let so much go today but pulls that one.

No way it’s given opposite end, the Kane factor helped make the decision

Yes. I wouldn't describe it as a dive tbh, but sir Harry was clever forcing his way in front of Mustafi, and Mustafi dumb to make the contact that Kane was waiting for. He was offside though, linesman caught badly, and another example of the poor standard of officiating in the EPL.

In the context of the way this particular game has been refereed, it is soft. Taylor has allowed a lot of contact all over the pitch today. My point was the only way Spurs were going to get back into the game though.

AdamD

Kane is 'clever'. Draws a lot of so called fouls and has some niggle about him. Probably great if he's on your team but by God I hate him.

Soups123

Loafing Oaf wrote: »

Because the foul was on Harry Kane doncha know. If he was the victim of a Keane-Haaland challenge the Einsteins on here would accuse him of playacting...

That’s just stupid ****. The thread hasn’t descended into that crap

Mr.Nice Guy

Sanchez has torpedoed Tottenham today.

Pacifico

ROFL

Soups123

theoneeyedman wrote: »

Yes. I wouldn't describe it as a dive tbh, but sir Harry was clever forcing his way in front of Mustafi, and Mustafi dumb to make the contact that Kane was waiting for. He was offside though, linesman caught badly, and another example of the poor standard of officiating in the EPL.

In the context of the way this particular game has been refereed, it is soft. Taylor has allowed a lot of contact all over the pitch today. My point was the only way Spurs were going to get back into the game though.

Spot on

Soups123

The was a soft peno there!

SlickRic

Ref went out of his way to even up the penos. He was definitely told they fúcked up the Spurs one.

Mr.Nice Guy

LLORIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

Aubameyang bottles again.

AdamD

That's a dive but I've no sympathy for Sanchez, he's constantly all over the striker.

Hammer Archer

Jaysus spurs could actually draw a game

Corholio

Soft peno in both award and the taking. Own fault for not winning it now.

ctrl-alt-delete

Shocking to award it and a shocking penalty.

Soups123

Some end to a game that never took lite. Auba never looked confident

Tom Mann Centuria

VAR will turn football into a non contact sport. Any arm on back of striker, they'll go down, in slow motion it'll look like a foul every time.

Nalz

Esse85 wrote: »

Has the sound on BT been dodgy for anyone else?

It comes and goes for me on occasions but today it was ok

Hammer Archer

Vertonghen looked like he was level with Aubameyang when he took the penalty. Then he was in the position to clear the rebound. Possibly should have been a retake?

blueser

In the modern game, that's almost always going to be a red card.

Kiith

He looked inside the box to me, so probably should have been retaken.

That's a bad tackle on Rose.

Mr.Nice Guy

Awful challenge from Torreira. How does McManaman not think that's a red ffs.

AdamD

Refs been so bad for both sides today

ctrl-alt-delete

What the fcuk?

You can't be giving a straight red for that.

Pacifico

Spurs blessed by the officials today

Kiith

The undrawables are no more.

Rossi IRL

I didn't even think it was a foul during real time

Corholio

Studs connect that high up the leg, always a red card. Players have to use their brain sometimes.

Soups123

Hammer Archer wrote: »

Vertonghen looked like he was level with Aubameyang when he took the penalty. Then he was in the position to clear the rebound. Possibly should have been a retake?

I don’t think even with VAR you’ll catch that. It’s kinda clever cheating you’d want your own players doing it

farna_boy

Corholio wrote: »

Studs connect that high up the leg, always a red card. Players have to use their brain sometimes.

Didn't Rose do the exact same to Leno and yet he was still on the pitch?

CalamariFritti

Was an awful tackle, ref left with no choice.

Knee high, studs up, what else would you want him to do? Take his leg off?

Kiith

Studs up that high, red card. Not sure what there is to argue there.

Hammer Archer

Am I alone in thinking that Rose possibly should have gotten a red for his challenge on Leno earlier? Similarly high with his studs up, only he caught Leno's chest.

blueser

Spurs got away with it big time out there. A penalty that should never have been given, and the Arsenal penalty should have been retaken for encroachment; Vertonghen was nearly level with Aubameyang when he was taking the penalty. And Rose could easily have seen red for his challenge on Leno.

Soups123

Kiith wrote: »

Studs up that high, red card. Not sure what there is to argue there.

He one the call studs weren’t up, what about Rose studs to keepers chest?

It’s allow but only if trying to score. Neither where reds

tayto lover

CalamariFritti wrote: »

Was an awful tackle, ref left with no choice.

Knee high, studs up, what else would you want him to do? Take his leg off?

Bulls***.

CalamariFritti

tayto lover wrote: »

Bulls***.

abcabc123123

2 points dropped there unfortunately. Arsenal were vastly superior but Lacazette and Aubameyang were hugely wasteful.

How bad was the officiating?

Soups123

CalamariFritti wrote: »

Was an awful tackle, ref left with no choice.

Knee high, studs up, what else would you want him to do? Take his leg off?

Go and watch it again. It was the trailing leg that made it look worse. It was a yellow same as Rose.

Mr.Nice Guy

If you don't think it's a red card head to Specsavers immediately.

https://twitter.com/AnsolaEduardo/status/1101851142731063296

Almost connects at the knee.

tayto lover

CalamariFritti wrote: »

England’s Harry can do no wrong in the eyes of referees.

theoneeyedman

Poor game, and poorly refereed IMHO.

That shouldn't be a red card, he's hooked the ball away, and any contact subsequent is incidental, and terrerra hadn't followed through or applied any force to it. The Arsenal penalty was a poor call too, clearly influenced by the award of the first one, clearly a dive by Aubameyang.

As I said earlo, officiating in the EPL is very poor. Not helped of course by players exaggerating, cheating and diving, but poor judgement and random decisions now play a big part in too many games.

Necro

Hammer Archer wrote: »

Am I alone in thinking that Rose possibly should have gotten a red for his challenge on Leno earlier? Similarly high with his studs up, only he caught Leno's chest.

Depends, were you on the officiating team for the match today? If so then very likely yes, you are alone.

Otherwise, definitely not. Both were reds.

CalamariFritti

Soups123 wrote: »

Go and watch it again. It was the trailing leg that made it look worse. It was a yellow same as Rose.

It didn't need the trailing leg. What the leading leg did was bad enough all by itself.