Tottenham Hotspur vs Arsenal, Premier League, 12:30pm, BT Sport 1

CalamariFritti

tayto lover wrote: »

England’s Harry can do no wrong in the eyes of referees.

Not sure if you're talking about something that happened earlier, i might not have seen that. I'm just talking about the Torreira challenge.

Soups123

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

If you don't think it's a red card head to Specsavers immediately.

https://twitter.com/AnsolaEduardo/status/1101851142731063296

Almost connects at the knee.

Slow motion makes minimal contact look bad. Look at normal speed, angle of the foot he hooks the ball. No follow through or pressure on the leading foot.

Stick up the Rose one there?

rob316

I just can't understand a word kane says someone get the lad some Sudafed.

Soups123

CalamariFritti wrote: »

It didn't need the trailing leg. What the leading leg did was bad enough all by itself.

Look at it at normal speed he hooks the ball, his foot isn’t following straight through. All on BT saying the same

Rossi IRL

Vertongen was nearer the penalty spot than the edge of the box when the penalty was taken. He also went on to make the clearance afterwards.

Sanity_Saviour

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

If you don't think it's a red card head to Specsavers immediately.

https://twitter.com/AnsolaEduardo/status/1101851142731063296

Almost connects at the knee.

inch perfect tackle

blueser

Good to see Jenas and Keown staying impartial!

abcabc123123

It was reckless and dangerous from Torreira, fair enough red. Whether he won the ball or not doesn't matter. Way too much force in the tackle, he wasn't in control and endangered Rose.

Rose should have been off himself earlier though. Extraordinary that he can plant his studs in Leno's chest at full stretch and only get a booking. See attachment

Neither penalty should have been given, the ref missed Vertonghen encroaching to prevent Aubameyang from scoring the rebound, and he missed about 5 clear yellow cards. Abysmal refereeing.

Soups123

BT Sports ref looks at all decisions and surprise surprise backs the officials lol

Auba was never a peno, minimal contact

Weepsie

If Leno was standing, it might have been a red. Being in a crouched position the referee perhaps wrongly hesitated as to how high he was.


Saying caught him in the chest, but he's basically down on his knees. It's a similar height tackle to the other and neither could've complained for reds.

Prisoner6409

Another result determined by a bad referring decision, bring on VAR. No jumping up and down by Pochettino this week following a bad decision.

Necro

Weepsie wrote: »

If Leno was standing, it might have been a red. Being in a crouched position the referee perhaps wrongly hesitated as to how high he was.


Saying caught him in the chest, but he's basically down on his knees. It's a similar height tackle to the other and neither could've complained for reds.

Still a studs up challenge. Red card all day. As was Torreira's.

Weepsie

Necro wrote: »

Still a studs up challenge. Red card all day. As was Torreira's.

I'm not disagreeing with that, it's a red, but trying to put some context into the situation. Keepers get tackled like that a lot and are often lucky for the player to be even booked.

Torreiras tackle is a more traditional, cut and dry red card on the face of it. Easily visible that it was Knee high, etc etc.

Turtyturd

No argument about the red...can’t even say it’s out of character as he is fond of tackles like that.

Poor result for Spurs, other top teams completely tore Arsenal apart at home.

Soups123

Jaysus Poch is really feeling the pressure that presser was ridiculous from him talking random excuses. Saying Xhaka incident changed the game lol

Necro

Turtyturd wrote: »

No argument about the red...can’t even say it’s out of character as he is fond of tackles like that.

Poor result for Spurs, other top teams completely tore Arsenal apart at home.

Wembley isn't exactly home though is it :pac:

Soups123

Robbie Savage lol. Giving it loads to Walton who is trying to defend the officials today.

Corholio

On the Spurs penalty, I've seen a rule floating around about the penalty being awarded before an offside officially actually kicks in. Not saying it's correct, just that there are always little exact things that normal fans wouldn't automatically know, me included.

KaiserGunner

Turtyturd wrote: »

No argument about the red...can’t even say it’s out of character as he is fond of tackles like that.

Poor result for Spurs, other top teams completely tore Arsenal apart at home.

Zzzzzzzzzz

Loafing Oaf

Soups123 wrote: »

Auba was never a peno, minimal contact

If it's illegal contact the amount doesn't matter, it's a foul.

And LOL at the idea that VAR would see these sorts of decisions overturned. No way are the VAR guys going to be overturning fouls on the basis that the illegal contact in question wasn't forceful enough.

Weepsie

Corholio wrote: »

On the Spurs penalty, I've seen a rule floating around about the penalty being awarded before an offside officially actually kicks in. Not saying it's correct, just that there are always little exact things that normal fans wouldn't automatically know, me included.

Yup, just read it there

a player in an offisde (sic) position is moving towards the ball with the intention of playing the ball and is fouled before playing or attempting to play the ball, or challenging an opponent for the ball, the foul is penalised as it has occurred before the offside offence.

http://www.thefa.com/football-rules-governance/lawsandrules/laws/football-11-11/law-11

was on f365 earlier

Wheeliebin30

Weepsie wrote: »

Yup, just read it there



http://www.thefa.com/football-rules-governance/lawsandrules/laws/football-11-11/law-11

was on f365 earlier

But he did attempt to play the ball????

Are you for real with this!!????

Weepsie

I am, at what point he is deemed as going for the ball and being active ? Mustafi is fouling him either way. If he was offside, he should've done nothing. He's a walking liability.

Wheeliebin30

Weepsie wrote: »

I am, at what point he is deemed as going for the ball and being active ? Mustafi is fouling him either way. If he was offside, he should've done nothing. He's a walking liability.

We shall have to disagree on interpretation of this Law, Are we saying that no offside should be signalled until we are satisfied play has broken down and the attacker is not going to be fouled for a penalty kick? That would be nonsense, play could go on and on


A quote I read tonight on this.

Ffs he was offside how are spurs managing to spin this any other way???

Weepsie

We all know the offside rules are a bit of a nonsense and have become overly complicated in the last 20 years. But they are what they are. Until he basically touches the ball, the linesman is not going to flag. Years ago, that would have been flagged the moment the free was taken.

He was in an offside position, but it all comes to down to when the player is considered to be active in play and it 's very inconsistent.

Wheeliebin30

Weepsie wrote: »

We all know the offside rules are a bit of a nonsense and have become overly complicated in the last 20 years. But they are what they are. Until he basically touches the ball, the linesman is not going to flag. Years ago, that would have been flagged the moment the free was taken.

He was in an offside position, but it all comes to down to when the player is considered to be active in play and it 's very inconsistent.

He ended up two yards from the goal after been on the edge of the box before the free kick was taken, if that’s not actively trying to be involved in play then I give up ffs.

Weepsie

It isn't. And it hasn't been in a long time. Otherwise we'd be seeing the flag go up a lot more often and a lot quicker. It would make sense if it was the case.

he hasn't actually been able to make an attempt to play the ball because Mustafi had a complete brainfart and fouled him. Mustafi barged into him before the 6 yard box, as he's jumping.

It's really Mustafi's own fault.

City conceded a very similar penalty a few weeks ago.