Interdepartmental HEO Competition 2019

Grainne Dee

Hi, I received results on Monday. Fingers crossed that’s the case, this competition seems to be going on forever. The guy I was onto in PAS couldn’t give any indication so I hope it’s sooner rather than later!

Jsherlock1

For anyone on the Offaly or Westmeath panels, I rang PAS this morning and they said they are aware of 1 vacancy in Westmeath and none in Offaly at the moment but that this may change in the coming weeks as Departments will be aware there are panels in place.

channelsurfer2

Jsherlock1 wrote: »

For anyone on the Offaly or Westmeath panels, I rang PAS this morning and they said they are aware of 1 vacancy in Westmeath and none in Offaly at the moment but that this may change in the coming weeks as Departments will be aware there are panels in place.

thanks - hopefully there will be movement.

speedygirl

Folks . Can anyone advise please! I've placed no1 for a region but my preferred choice region has not interviewed yet. Do ye think am I making right decision holding out for preferred region based on yer experiences . Question for those of ye who have been successful but found themselves in same situation.

Jsherlock1

speedygirl wrote: »

Folks . Can anyone advise please! I've placed no1 for a region but my preferred choice region has not interviewed yet. Do ye think am I making right decision holding out for preferred region based on yer experiences . Question for those of ye who have been successful but found themselves in same situation.

Cant advise but that is an awkward position to be in. I guess it depends on how badly you want to be in the preferred choice and whether you are willing to risk not getting placed?

Beebeebug

speedygirl wrote: »

Folks . Can anyone advise please! I've placed no1 for a region but my preferred choice region has not interviewed yet. Do ye think am I making right decision holding out for preferred region based on yer experiences . Question for those of ye who have been successful but found themselves in same situation.

There is something about being able to defer an offer if the location is further than 45 km from your home address. Might be worth enquiring about. Hope that possibly helps!

BMHOPE

I believe you can turn it down but still keep your place on the panel. They offer it to the next person on the panel for that area and so on. They don't defer it as the position needs to be filed. So it's a chance that another suitable position comes up in the area, which with interdartmental is quite possible, as lots of departments and with a longer period before expiring. I would base it on how many were filed from last panel and roughly number of civil servants in area. If there are thousand better chance than an area with 50 for e.g. As they will have a lot fewer HEO's. I would also weigh it up with the same criteria for your first location. You will not be offered the same office again from this panel if you have refused it already, in exceptional circumstances you can defer taking up a position such as careers leave but seems to be case by case basis and not guaranteed.

speedygirl

BMHOPE wrote: »

I believe you can turn it down but still keep your place on the panel. They offer it to the next person on the panel for that area and so on. They don't defer it as the position needs to be filed. So it's a chance that another suitable position comes up in the area, which with interdartmental is quite possible, as lots of departments and with a longer period before expiring. I would base it on how many were filed from last panel and roughly number of civil servants in area. If there are thousand better chance than an area with 50 for e.g. As they will have a lot fewer HEO's. I would also weigh it up with the same criteria for your first location. You will not be offered the same office again from this panel if you have refused it already, in exceptional circumstances you can defer taking up a position such as careers leave but seems to be case by case basis and not guaranteed.

Thanks I actually was not aware of this as its my 1st time to apply for HEO.

Addle

I don’t know how that could work as you’re offered a location, not necessarily a department.

Augme

You can only refuse an offer and stay on the panel if the location is 45kn from where you lived as mentioned. If you say refuse it for any other reason you are removed from the panel for that county location.

Anna1976

Did anyone ring Public jobs to check how many vacancies there may be in Kildare, if not I will ring tomorrow.

GKE

Does anyone know if there are any vacancies in Tipperary or Limerick?

Connected99

Just saw this notice on PAS website

Please note, from Monday 18 November 2019, the Public Appointments Service
will be hosting interviews from two locations, Abbey Street and Baggot Street. Please ensure you check your invitation to interview on your publicjobs.ie Message Board in advance of attending for
interview with us.

Anna1976

I just phoned PAS asking if there are any vacancies in Kildare, she said at the moment there are no vacancies and that she cannot say when there will be because they wait for individual departments to submit requests.

AngelaG

Anyone know when Donegal will be called for interview ?

Beebeebug

Anna1976 wrote: »

Did anyone ring Public jobs to check how many vacancies there may be in Kildare, if not I will ring tomorrow.

PM sent re:Kildare

Connected99

AngelaG wrote: »

Anyone know when Donegal will be called for interview ?

Apparently there are no plans to call anymore candidates for interview this side of Christmas for any regions. 😔

BMHOPE

Limerick and Kerry panels moved by one, maybe more offers today.

Beebeebug

BMHOPE wrote: »

Limerick and Kerry panels moved by one, maybe more offers today.

Thanks for the update! That was very quick :-)

Hunnybunny100

Hi there, I have been called for interview next week, I have been looking through the assessment material provided and under part A specialist knowledge, expertise and self development is included under "a competency area identified for the HEO role". There is no actual competency is the form for this so does anyone know if it is maybe assessed throughout the interview? Thanks!

Connected99

Hunnybunny100 wrote: »

Hi there, I have been called for interview next week, I have been looking through the assessment material provided and under part A specialist knowledge, expertise and self development is included under "a competency area identified for the HEO role". There is no actual competency is the form for this so does anyone know if it is maybe assessed throughout the interview? Thanks!

As far as I am aware A specialist knowledge, expertise and self development competency is assessed during the Interview

What region are you being called from for Interview please?

Thank you

Hunnybunny100

Connected99 wrote: »

As far as I am aware A specialist knowledge, expertise and self development competency is assessed during the Interview

What region are you being called from for Interview please?

Thank you

Ah that makes sense, thanks for that, Ive been called for interview for Clonakilty.

Connected99

Hunnybunny100 wrote: »

Ah that makes sense, thanks for that, Ive been called for interview for Clonakilty.

so you are being called for Cork as your region then?

Thank you

Hunnybunny100

Connected99 wrote: »

so you are being called for Cork as your region then?

Thank you

Yes, Cork is the region but Clonakilty specifically due to vacancies there.

Connected99

Hunnybunny100 wrote: »

Yes, Cork is the region but Clonakilty specifically due to vacancies there.

Best of luck with it!!

Jsherlock1

Anyone have any info on westmeath? I have heard a couple of rumours about people being placed but not sure how true they are.

channelsurfer2

Jsherlock1 wrote: »

Anyone have any info on westmeath? I have heard a couple of rumours about people being placed but not sure how true they are.

rumors - just them is that there are a few places up in early January in Education and state exams. not sure about any other department.

Jsherlock1

According to PAS, the Westmeath panel has started moving. Two confirmed vacancies going in to clearance. No indication of whether any more movement is imminent

Beebeebug

Jsherlock1 wrote: »

According to PAS, the Westmeath panel has started moving. Two confirmed vacancies going in to clearance. No indication of whether any more movement is imminent

Good to hear of more movement!

Jsherlock1

Can anyone tell me how often HEOs get paid?

channelsurfer2

Jsherlock1 wrote: »

Can anyone tell me how often HEOs get paid?

every fortnight same as eo

Addle

Fortnightly, same day as EOs.

Addle

channelsurfer2 wrote: »

every fortnight same as eo

Snap!

Jsherlock1

Just an update re: Westmeath. I was informed end of last week that I am in clearance. Im no. 4 on the panel.

Anna1976

Jsherlock1 wrote: »

Just an update re: Westmeath. I was informed end of last week that I am in clearance. Im no. 4 on the panel.

That's great, you must be delighted, very best of luck with your placement

Beebeebug

Jsherlock1 wrote: »

Just an update re: Westmeath. I was informed end of last week that I am in clearance. Im no. 4 on the panel.

Congratulations!

BLOSSOM11

Jsherlock1 wrote: »

Just an update re: Westmeath. I was informed end of last week that I am in clearance. Im no. 4 on the panel.

Congratulations. Great news

GKE

Jsherlock1 wrote: »

Just an update re: Westmeath. I was informed end of last week that I am in clearance. Im no. 4 on the panel.

Do you mind me asking how they made contact with you? Is it a phone call or email from PAS? TIA

Jsherlock1

GKE wrote: »

Do you mind me asking how they made contact with you? Is it a phone call or email from PAS? TIA

PAS rang me last week to notify me they had reached my number and to confirm I was still interested in a position. They were able to confirm where the vacancy was on the phone too.

After the phone call they emailed me asking me to confirm I was happy for clearance to proceed.

Im being retained in the same department so just waiting to hear where Im going but not sure how long clearance usually takes.

GKE

Jsherlock1 wrote: »

PAS rang me last week to notify me they had reached my number and to confirm I was still interested in a position. They were able to confirm where the vacancy was on the phone too.

After the phone call they emailed me asking me to confirm I was happy for clearance to proceed.

Im being retained in the same department so just waiting to hear where Im going but not sure how long clearance usually takes.

That's great. Thank you.

I can stop refreshing my emails so in the hopes that I have received an offer!

Jsherlock1

GKE wrote: »

That's great. Thank you.

I can stop refreshing my emails so in the hopes that I have received an offer!

Definitely relax a bit, they will get in touch as soon as they reach you and then the relevant department will contact you once clearance is complete.

Any idea how long clearance takes?

GKE

Jsherlock1 wrote: »

Definitely relax a bit, they will get in touch as soon as they reach you and then the relevant department will contact you once clearance is complete.

Any idea how long clearance takes?

Thank you.

A colleague has advised that it is 2 weeks but i am not 100% sure on this.

BMHOPE

Jsherlock1 wrote: »

Definitely relax a bit, they will get in touch as soon as they reach you and then the relevant department will contact you once clearance is complete.

Any idea how long clearance takes?

I got the call on Friday evening asking about clearance, said I was happy to proceed, being kept in same department but different office, checked sick leave and pmds rating on Monday, got placed on the Tuesday. So it varies, for me it took two days and someone else I know had to be Garda vetted again so took a little longer but not much. All in all very quick.

Anna1976

I don't suppose there will be any more placements before Christmas.

Jsherlock1

Anna1976 wrote: »

I don't suppose there will be any more placements before Christmas.

Im out of clearance since last Thursday and just waiting now to here what section in my Department Im going to. Id imagine there wont be any more going into clearance this side of christmas and it will be second week in January before it all starts up properly again.

Anna1976

Jsherlock1 wrote: »

Im out of clearance since last Thursday and just waiting now to here what section in my Department Im going to. Id imagine there wont be any more going into clearance this side of christmas and it will be second week in January before it all starts up properly again.

Yes hopefully things will start moving again in January.

westmeath11

Looks like some movement today, I'm on the interdepartmental ICT and just got news that I made the panel

Anna1976

westmeath11 wrote: »

Looks like some movement today, I'm on the interdepartmental ICT and just got news that I made the panel

Congratulations, is that a seperate panel to this one?

westmeath11

Anna1976 wrote: »

Congratulations, is that a seperate panel to this one?

It is separate but I think they are running together. Mine is interdepartmental ICT, they need a lot of HEO's at the moment.
As far as I know people can be called of 1 of 3 panels


. External HEO panel
. Interdepartmental HEO
. Interdepartmental ICT HEO


I am told there will be movement on them all

channelsurfer2

any update on offaly?