Hot take: Multiculturalism is good

SirGerryAdams

nlrkjos wrote: »

I've no problem with multiculturalism, worked in 23 different countries and took in a lot of their culture, as they mine...if you are ever in the streets of Geoje Sth Korea and some local calls you a langer, you know I've been there (4 months). Most xenophobes probably never left their own parish, and those that worry about losing our culture...the brits tried that for a few hundred years and we still have most of it!

Ah yes, lads using asian kids and getting them to say Up the Ra, gotta love it...

Bobblehats

SirGerryAdams wrote: »

Just like people need to realise humans are going to kill the planet anyways because we use resources and resources are finite.

We don’t need to add more lye into the mix.

SirGerryAdams

sk8erboii wrote: »

Im sure its irrelevant while you type on an american laptop, on a website coded by an indian guy, while tucking into some chinese so you can get ready to work for a british company in the morning

Were you calling out the Israeli boycotts over them using laptops run using systems researched and developed in Israel?

SirGerryAdams

Multiculturism is good I think as long as the cultures have things in common or mingle.

When a young Indian is going to college and interacts with his other classmates and socialises with them, it's great. But then for example you'd have older Indians who dress in their garments, don't speak english and just interact with other Indians, just buy Indian food etc.

jmayo

SirGerryAdams wrote: »

Were you calling out the Israeli boycotts over them using laptops run using systems researched and developed in Israel?

Sure he got the fecking Chinese inference wrong as well because as sure as hell the laptop would have been built in China.

I wonder will some of those calling for boycotts of Israel stick to their principles when a doctor is administering drugs for their Parkinsons or multiple sclerosis ?

The only drugs coming out of the countries these eejits support would be either khat or hash.

Bobblehats

Bambi wrote: »

TBH I always assumed one of his parents or siblings is an AH mod which is why he's still knocking around.

Do you not get a laugh?

Kivaro

What's this "Hot take" business in the thread title?

Let's see what Wiki says ......
Hot take is a "piece of deliberately provocative commentary that is based almost entirely on shallow moralizing" in response to a news story, "usually written on tight deadlines with little research or reporting, and even less thought".

Looks at who started the thread.
Yeah, that sounds about right.

sk8erboii

Bobblehats wrote: »

And would those be fleeting interactions or more personal. Maybe you work with some, at the plant after mixing it up on the dart or maybe its the family of Somalis next door?

Not fleeting. Ive known these lads since secondary. Ive been with relationships with girls from other nations. We have a large friend group that meet up twice a year to travel.

Long story short my interaction with immigrants have been friends, classmates, coworkers and girlfriends. Multiculturalism has been good for me.

sk8erboii

Kivaro wrote: »

What's this "Hot take" business in the thread title?

Let's see what Wiki says ......
Hot take is a "piece of deliberately provocative commentary that is based almost entirely on shallow moralizing" in response to a news story, "usually written on tight deadlines with little research or reporting, and even less thought".

Looks at who started the thread.
Yeah, that sounds about right.

Cringe. Nobody actually think its clever when someone over diagnoses forum posts.

DelaneyIn

sk8erboii wrote: »

Cringe. Nobody actually think its clever when someone over diagnoses forum posts.

Like you have done multiple times on this very thread?

sk8erboii

[Deleted User] wrote: »

That lad looks perfectly normal. He's certainly not a skin head and he's certainly not ranting.

Compare his tone of voice and composure to your own baseless and comical accusations of skinhead and ranting.

What backwater, antisocial part of the nation do you live in so i can avoid it?

Mod: banned

sk8erboii

DelaneyIn wrote: »

Like you have done multiple times on this very thread?

Not really. I address the point, and only the pedantry when it gets nauseating (Kivaro)

sk8erboii

Bambi wrote: »

TBH I always assumed one of his parents or siblings is an AH mod which is why he's still knocking around.

Not really. Believe it or not my opinions are held by the majority of the nation. I am the demographic that the world caters to. I get that you’re insular and probably antisocial, but once you talk to people who isnt just bitter social rejects, you’d realize you’ve been out of touch the entire time

beejee

Trollboi, Delusionalboi, but most of all, fuukboi

Bobblehats

sk8erboii wrote: »

Long story short my interaction with immigrants have been friends, classmates, coworkers and girlfriends. Multiculturalism has been good for me.

It’s been good for me too but that is just one. Here strictly on the basis of love; not for money but for a country and its people which developed over time

The sooner we recognise all these people seeking out the island of Ireland out as an economic retreat is unsustainable the better because as a people we cannot sustain it. Only a fool allows themselves to be taken advantage of, and an exponentally bigger fool allows it to continue unabated but then an altogether different beast actually makes the arrangements in order to make it happen.

Ulysses Gaze

Sonny noggs wrote: »

In fairness, skater boy has the leaving cert coming up, so I assume that is taking up most of his time, so give him a break. If he fails again he is in trouble with his parents.

No he has been to college and has a really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really important job as he is so keen to point out. Over and over again.

But don't worry Sonny! You are just a "Bitter Old Man" who will "die soon". Whereas he is young, super intelligent (as we are told over and over again) and so much more cultured than the rest of us poor peons on After Hours.

SEPT 23 1989

sk8erboii wrote: »

Not fleeting. Ive known these lads since secondary. Ive been with relationships with girls from other nations. We have a large friend group that meet up twice a year to travel.

Long story short my interaction with immigrants have been friends, classmates, coworkers and girlfriends. Multiculturalism has been good for me.

A few bob then

Living in a nice part of town

Pontificating

Not fighting for housing,school places and hospital beds

Yamanoto

sk8erboii wrote: »

Ive been with relationships with girls from other nations.

And I've barring orders in Cyrillic, Kanjii & Sanskrit to prove it.

You're an odd little chap.

Sonny noggs

sk8erboii wrote: »

Not fleeting. Ive known these lads since secondary. Ive been with relationships with girls from other nations. We have a large friend group that meet up twice a year to travel.

Long story short my interaction with immigrants have been friends, classmates, coworkers and girlfriends. Multiculturalism has been good for me.

Since secondary? Ha ha. You are still IN secondary...

Sonny noggs

Ulysses Gaze wrote: »

No he has been to college and has a really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really important job as he is so keen to point out. Over and over again.

But don't worry Sonny! You are just a "Bitter Old Man" who will "die soon". Whereas he is young, super intelligent (as we are told over and over again) and so much more cultured than the rest of us poor peons on After Hours.

Doing ‘chores’ for pocket money counts as an important job now? I should include that on my linked in profile.

sk8erboii

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

A few bob then

Living in a nice part of town

Pontificating

Not fighting for housing,school places and hospital beds

Reverse snobbery right there. Youre wrong anyways, my family is below the income line and I had to take out loans for college. My parents are a mix of blue collar workers and semi-skilled professionals.

The only difference is, we don’t blame immigrants for our hardships.

sk8erboii

Sonny noggs wrote: »

Since secondary? Ha ha. You are still IN secondary...

Cringe.

sk8erboii

Sonny noggs wrote: »

Doing ‘chores’ for pocket money counts as an important job now? I should include that on my linked in profile.

This is something only old people find funny.

Im surprised your carer lets you use the web

Sonny noggs

sk8erboii wrote: »

This is something only old people find funny.

Im surprised your carer lets you use the web

Surprised your parents haven’t a parental control lock on your device. Get back to the books or you will fail again, then no more pocket money.

sk8erboii

Sonny noggs wrote: »

Surprised your parents haven’t a parental control lock on your device. Get back to the books or you will fail again, then no more pocket money.

Ugh cringe. Honestly this is sad

RobbingBandit

Multiculturalism is a myth Colonization is what is going on here, little to no integration takes place open boarder is ravaged here by many who have no interest in being Irish but all clamour for Irish citizenships.

Land of 100,000 welcomes unless you're native that is.

sk8erboii

RobbingBandit wrote: »

Multiculturalism is a myth Colonization is what is going on here, little to no integration takes place open boarder is ravaged here by many who have no interest in being Irish but all clamour for Irish citizenships.

Land of 100,000 welcomes unless you're native that is.

Whose the colonial Imperialist force holding the status quo?

Sonny noggs

sk8erboii wrote: »

Ugh cringe. Honestly this is sad

Will need to check with my teenage niece to formulate a response you can understand.

Odhinn

RobbingBandit wrote: »

Multiculturalism is a myth Colonization is what is going on here, little to no integration takes place open boarder is ravaged here by many who have no interest in being Irish but all clamour for Irish citizenships.

Land of 100,000 welcomes unless you're native that is.

Nothing like it. I find it strange I have to point that out to somebody I presume is a fellow Irish national.

sk8erboii

sk8erboii wrote: »

Whose the colonial Imperialist force holding the status quo?

Globalist business leaders who demand that growth continues at all costs, they'll even import people to keep the line on the chart going to the north-east!
If we didn't import all these people there would be no housing crisis and many other countries wouldn't be impoverished by haemorrhaging all their brightest and most motivated people.

weldoninhio

sk8erboii wrote: »

Ugh cringe. Honestly this is sad

You can right click and find synonyms for cringe if you don’t want to be repeating yourself.

sk8erboii

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Globalist business leaders who demand that growth continues at all costs, they'll even import people to keep the line on the chart going to the north-east!
If we didn't import all these people there would be no housing crisis and many other countries wouldn't be impoverished by haemorrhaging all their brightest and most motivated people.

Sounds like you’re blaming capitalism. Would you endorse socialism then?

Sonny noggs

weldoninhio wrote: »

You can right click and find synonyms for cringe if you don’t want to be repeating yourself.

He can find out what synonym means too.

sk8erboii

sk8erboii wrote: »

Sounds like you’re blaming capitalism. Would you endorse socialism then?

I didn't say that, there are other economic models out there, ones that are not dependent on infinite growth.

It's basically a case of changing how the financial system works, instead of lending money into existence and paying interest that enforces infinite growth id needed to make the repayments.
The alternative is to spend into existence and tax out the money if there is too much in the system, this method is not dependant on infinite growth.

Until around the early 18th century, almost all countries had some form of spend into existence monitory system, usually based on precious metals.

suicide_circus

Is multiculturalism good? is it bad?

that depends. is it good or bad in and of itself? i dont think so.

if you write in the culture section of the Irish Times and an influx of ethnic minorities results in cool new restaurants you can eat in while your cheap nanny minds the kids and there isnt a snowballs chance in hell of "non nationals" competing for your job or housing...then yes, multiculturalism is good.

sk8erboii

suicide_circus wrote: »

Is multiculturalism good? is it bad?

that depends. is it good or bad in and of itself? i dont think so.

if you write in the culture section of the Irish Times and an influx of ethnic minorities results in cool new restaurants you can eat in while your cheap nanny minds the kids and there isnt a snowballs chance in hell of "non nationals" competing for your job or housing...then yes, multiculturalism is good.

Thats funny. The same people who predicted the 2008 recession also said that immigrants (and poor people) will be blamed. To be honest, you’re seeing the trees for the forest.

sk8erboii

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I didn't say that, there are other economic models out there, ones that are not dependent on infinite growth.

It's basically a case of changing how the financial system works, instead of lending money into existence and paying interest that enforces infinite growth id needed to make the repayments.
The alternative is to spend into existence and tax out the money if there is too much in the system, this method is not dependant on infinite growth.

Until around the early 18th century, almost all countries had some form of spend into existence monitory system, usually based on precious metals.

Would a commodity-backed currency remove social problems, as you posit? Money doesnt have intrinsic value, but neither does gold. High-level economics doesnt even differentiate the old system from fiat. Really the only difference is commodity backed currency leaves a nation very vulnerable to economic attacks.

If there is a concerted effort to exploit the nation (a conspiracy you could say) then commodity based on / volatile resource would bring Ireland back to the stone age.

suicide_circus

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/happiness_formula/5012478.stm

sk8erboii

sk8erboii wrote: »

Would a commodity-backed currency remove social problems, as you posit? Money doesnt have intrinsic value, but neither does gold. High-level economics doesnt even differentiate the old system from fiat. Really the only difference is commodity backed currency leaves a nation very vulnerable to economic attacks.

If there is a concerted effort to exploit the nation (a conspiracy you could say) then commodity based on / volatile resource would bring Ireland back to the stone age.

I said that was how it used to be, money only has value if the users trust it, The problem is that having a debt based economy that requires infinite growth to repay the debt simply means that as the developed world's population has stabilised, the system would stagnate and det would never be repaid.

The solution has been to import people to ensure the growth continues. The alternative would have been to change from a debt based system which creates money from debt, to one that creates money to spend into the system, this lubricates the economy and is eventually taxed out when it floats to the top and is not in use any more.

Right now debt spaves are working as hard as possible to make the money flow to the top as fast as possible. Importing cheap labour speeds up this process further.

sk8erboii

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I said that was how it used to be, money only has value if the users trust it, The problem is that having a debt based economy that requires infinite growth to repay the debt simply means that as the developed world's population has stabilised, the system would stagnate and det would never be repaid.

The solution has been to import people to ensure the growth continues. The alternative would have been to change from a debt based system which creates money from debt, to one that creates money to spend into the system, this lubricates the economy and is eventually taxed out when it floats to the top and is not in use any more.

Right now debt spaves are working as hard as possible to make the money flow to the top as fast as possible. Importing cheap labour speeds up this process further.

Ah thanks for the concise answer. So immigrants aren’t to blame, as you say. But whoever set up the banking system is.

A Bitter Pill

The majority of rapes in Sweden are committed by non EU migrants (you can read this on the BBC)

Maybe mass importing the third world into Europe is not such a good idea?

Bobblehats

A Bitter Pill wrote: »

Maybe mass importing the third world into Europe is not such a good idea?

For some that is hard to swallow.

sk8erboii

A Bitter Pill wrote: »

The majority of rapes in Sweden are committed by non EU migrants (you can read this on the BBC)

Maybe mass importing the third world into Europe is not such a good idea?

You should say that on TV instead of rereging on forums

A Bitter Pill

sk8erboii wrote: »

You should say that on TV instead of rereging on forums

At least you're not trying to deny it.

suicide_circus

sk8erboii wrote: »

You should say that on TV instead of rereging on forums

that would be Verboten

sk8erboii

suicide_circus wrote: »

that would be Verboten

Censorship is it?

A Bitter Pill

sk8erboii wrote: »

Censorship is it?

They tried to suppress these things in Germany and Sweden.

sk8erboii

A Bitter Pill wrote: »

They tried to suppress these things in Germany and Sweden.

Censorship is here is it?

A Bitter Pill

sk8erboii wrote: »

Censorship is here is it?

Do you think it's in any way sane or normal that the Germans tried to suppress knowledge of the NYE sex attacks? Or when the Swedish media and police covered up sexual violence committed by migrants at music festivals?

Do you think that's right?

Junkyard Tom

sk8erboii wrote: »

Money doesnt have intrinsic value, but neither does gold.

Gold does. Gold is a useful metal - McLaren used it in their cars and it's used in the manufacture of spacecraft. True enough though that it's ridiculously overpriced because of its considered value due to hoarding and use as jewellery.