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Near Misses Volume 2 (So close you can feel it)

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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 6,855 Mod ✭✭✭✭eeeee


    TheChizler wrote: »
    The way you originally described it it sounded like they nearly knocked you off with their arm. First mention of them moving too.

    They did.
    It was very unexpected!
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,500 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    Mc Love wrote: »
    Cyclist are vulnerable road users and every effort must be made to ensure that where cycle lanes have been made available, that they are accessible to the cyclist. Each Divisional Roads Policing Unit and Community Policing Unit will ensure that regular patrols are conducted in areas where cycle lanes are provided and where vehicles are obstructing these lanes appropriate action will be taken. Garda Members are aware of the new offence of ‘Dangerous overtaking of a Pedal Cycle’ and where such incidents are reported they will be fully investigated.
    This is a good commitment to get in writing. It should be quoted to any Garda reticent about investigating properly.

    Mc Love wrote: »
    The Road Safety Authotrity will be running radio advertisement throughout the month highlighting this issue.
    Does nobody spell check a press release? Does nobody check grammar?
    Mc Love wrote: »
    Supt Golden “I would also appeal to pedal cyclists to be aware of the Fixed charge notices which apply to them on the public road. These offences all carry a €40 FCPN



    Cyclist driving a pedal cycle without reasonable consideration.
    No front lamp or rear lamp lit during lighting-up hours on a pedal cycle.
    Cyclist proceeding into a pedestrianised street or area.
    Cyclist proceeding past traffic lights when the red lamp is illuminated
    Cyclist proceeding past cycle traffic lights when red lamp is lit.
    Cyclist failing to stop for a School Warden sign.
    Cyclist proceeding beyond a stop line, barrier or half barrier at a railway level crossing, swing bridge or lifting bridge, when the red lamps are flashing.


    Cyclists have a responsibility to stay within the rules of the road for the safety of all”
    They just couldn't help themselves, could they?
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,453 ✭✭✭Ray Palmer


    Mc Love wrote: »
    Hand in my mouth with this one

    People never believe me when I say you can have multiple incidents in a short space of time.
    Post edited by magicbastarder on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,561 ✭✭✭Eamonnator


    Mc Love wrote: »
    Not sure if this is the right place for it:

    https://www.garda.ie/en/about-us/our-departments/office-of-corporate-communications/press-releases/2020/january/month-of-action-in-respect-of-road-safety-%E2%80%93-february-2020.html

    Cyclists


    Cyclist are vulnerable road users and every effort must be made to ensure that where cycle lanes have been made available, that they are accessible to the cyclist. Each Divisional Roads Policing Unit and Community Policing Unit will ensure that regular patrols are conducted in areas where cycle lanes are provided and where vehicles are obstructing these lanes appropriate action will be taken. Garda Members are aware of the new offence of ‘Dangerous overtaking of a Pedal Cycle’ and where such incidents are reported they will be fully investigated. The Road Safety Authotrity will be running radio advertisement throughout the month highlighting this issue.



    Supt Golden “I would also appeal to pedal cyclists to be aware of the Fixed charge notices which apply to them on the public road. These offences all carry a €40 FCPN



    Cyclist driving a pedal cycle without reasonable consideration.
    No front lamp or rear lamp lit during lighting-up hours on a pedal cycle.
    Cyclist proceeding into a pedestrianised street or area.
    Cyclist proceeding past traffic lights when the red lamp is illuminated
    Cyclist proceeding past cycle traffic lights when red lamp is lit.
    Cyclist failing to stop for a School Warden sign.
    Cyclist proceeding beyond a stop line, barrier or half barrier at a railway level crossing, swing bridge or lifting bridge, when the red lamps are flashing.


    Cyclists have a responsibility to stay within the rules of the road for the safety of all”

    It should be in the Comic section.
    Particularly the part about mobile phone use.
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,760 ✭✭✭Effects


    Ray Palmer wrote: »
    People never believe me when I say you can have multiple incidents in a short space of time.

    I had two late last year, that I forgot to post about.

    Heading outbound through Fairview. Rain was really heavy. Bus driver started to overtake, then pull in right on top of me just before Tesco. He realised at the last minute and swerved right. I don't know how he didn't spot me as he was approaching.

    Then approaching a red light at the Malahide Rd. junction, I was in the cycle lane, intending to proceed straight ahead. A woman in the lane to my right started to pull across to enter the left turning lane, no indication, phone in her hand. I tapped on her window and she backed off.
    At the lights she was then two cars behind me and she started beeping her horn and yelling out her window. I rolled back to her, where she was saying how dare I touch her car.
    I told her she almost knocked me down and that she shouldn't be using her phone while driving. She responded she wasn't, and then I pointed to her phone, in her lap, open. She wasn't backing down at all so I just left her to fume away to herself.
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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,698 ✭✭✭kenmm


    :D French magnatom vs the original Scottish one!

    (I mean in terms of friendliness.. I don't speak french, but it sounded way more jolly that oooiiiii ya fu(king @rsehole, whit ye dain etc - and finished with a thank you very much!)
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,760 ✭✭✭Effects


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    This delivery guy pulled in like this on Lombard St., despite there being a parking spot a few metres away.
    He could also have pulled in straight, in the place where he stopped, and not blocked the cycle lane.
    He also blocked the entrance to a business, and there's a car behind him tying to turn into it.
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,881 ✭✭✭John_Rambo


    FouxDaFaFa wrote: »
    This happens to me a reasonable amount. I'm not especially fast so if I am passing you, you probably have a heavy bike or you're taking your time. I can't tell you the number of times I've passed a much slower (male) cyclist (to the point where it's difficult to cycle behind them) only for them to pull in front of me at a red light and start the whole process again. Again and again.

    I even had it happen as a pedestrian two weeks ago. Walked past a man on a (very wide) footpath. There's no way I could have startled him or put him off course or anything like that, I was nowhere near him. He kind of huffed in annoyance and took off at a sprint. I assumed he had seen a bus he was trying to catch or something but no, he ran a little further ahead, looked back at me and resumed his normal pace. When I went to pass him again he kept weaving to either side of the footpath to block me from passing him. Absolutely bizarre.

    Yeah!!! Brave men! A couple of years ago we were slowly cycling home with the kids, wife was on front of me with one of the kids, I was following 100 metres behind with our second favourite kid :) on a 8 metre wide path (huge) and some brave man in his sixties jumped up from a bench and hit the roof at my wife!! Blocked her path, f'ing and blinding!

    I went by and he completely ignored me but the wife had stopped and he saw her talking to me, I turned around and he legged it in to the church!! Good wife followed him in and humiliated him for bullying her with that type of language in front of his peers and the priest. Priest thought it was hilarious!
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  • Registered Users Posts: 21 Horseshoe600


    I'd like to say this was a near miss, but unfortunately I got hit by a truck the other evening cycling home from work. Lights front and back, and I was wearing high viz vest.

    I was in a cycle lane, I didn't even see it coming. I was peddling away when I was skittled up in the air and onto the road. I gathered myself to my feet. I looked forward to see a flatbed truck speeding through a green lit junction. I was stumbling in a daze like I'd been KO'd in a boxing match. Managed to scramble my way to the footpath. Some kindly strangers in a car pulled over to check to see if I was ok. They saw the incident. The truck had pulled out of a middle lane into the buslane beside the cycle lane I was in. It had a wide flat body the front edge of which hit me.

    I'm still very much dazed and confused at this stage. As far as I can make out I've somehow avoided any serious injury, just aches and pains all over. At this point the people in the car point towards a guard on a motorbike who had just pulled up at the junction. I make my over and attempt to speak to them. However I'm an incoherent rambling mess as the guard is not grasping or taking on board what I'm saying I don't think. The people in the car come over and explain to the guard in much clearer terms what had happened. The guard didn't seem too interested, they didn't try to take any of my details or even get off their bike to engage with me. A few moments later the guard sees a couple of cars parked up beyond the junction with people standing around talking and decides this is a more pressing matter so drives off to attend to them.

    The kindly people in the car were very helpful towards me. Offers to drive me home, or to the hospital. I wish I had been in a more coherent state to have taken their details even if only to thank them.

    I manage to cycle the rest of the way home. Stripped off my clothes to reveal some roadrash, bumps, bruises, broken skin. But beyond that I can't believe how blessed I am. I go to the local guarda station to report the incident, for whatever that's worth. It happened at a Luas junction in Tallaght near Citywest. The guarda behind the counter(Ronanstown) is mightily relieved when he hears the incident happened over in Tallaght, stating that he couldn't possibly take the details and that I'd have to go to Tallaght station.

    I go to Tallaght station and tell my story. Hoping that they might be able to retrieve some CCTV from the Luas junction. The guard seems only halfway interested. He tells me that he's going on leave in a few days, I ask will there be anybody else following up on this in his absence or trying to get the footage. No he says.

    Physically I've been very lucky but mentally I'm fragile, the impact knocked me for six, and the knowledge of how close I came to being taken out for real is making me feel I can't be biking any more. I've been cycling(roadbiking and MTB) for years, and have been cycling to work to avoid the godawful traffic around west Dublin, but now I think that might be over for me.

    Apologies for the long drawn out post, I'm not sure of what the purpose of it is really. Maybe just to get my thoughts out if nothing else. I wish I had the presence of mind at the time to take the details of that biker garda on the scene and the people who stopped to help me.
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,246 ✭✭✭✭Hurrache


    Jesus Christ, I don't know what's worse, what happened to you or the inexcusable actions of the work dodging Gardai. At this pont I'd be contemplating the Garda ombudsman with formal complaints if you get no satisfaction from the super. The fact it was at a Luas junction means I'd be certain there'd be CCTV to both identify the offender and the Garda who didn't want to know you.

    And I'd be shoving this down their throats
    Cyclists


    Cyclist are vulnerable road users and every effort must be made to ensure that where cycle lanes have been made available, that they are accessible to the cyclist. Each Divisional Roads Policing Unit and Community Policing Unit will ensure that regular patrols are conducted in areas where cycle lanes are provided and where vehicles are obstructing these lanes appropriate action will be taken. Garda Members are aware of the new offence of ‘Dangerous overtaking of a Pedal Cycle’ and where such incidents are reported they will be fully investigated. The Road Safety Authotrity will be running radio advertisement throughout the month highlighting this issue.

    [url] https://www.garda.ie/en/about-us/our-departments/office-of-corporate-communications/press-releases/2020/january/month-of-action-in-respect-of-road-safety-–-february-2020.html[/url]
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  • Registered Users Posts: 21 Horseshoe600


    francois wrote: »
    Disgraceful-There's an election coming up, get onto the local TD's and whinge at them to do something

    Apologies I should clarify so that I'm not wronging the guard completely. He DID say that he would make some sort of effort to get on to the relevant area to try and get footage, but he said that when he was on leave that there would be nobody else taking this up in his absence. I asked him is it not the case that his investigations are picked up by someone else(I'm maybe wrong in thinking that it should be), and he reacted like this was a daft notion.

    He indicated that any examination of CCT is highly unlikely to reveal any meaningful information about the incident. I enquired as to whether there was a way of somehow tracing the guard on the bike and he said no not really, and that there wouldn't be much point in trying.

    I'm not interested in getting into any garda bashing btw, I'd just really like it if the guy in the truck who hit me could be traced somehow.
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,246 ✭✭✭✭Hurrache


    To me it comes across as ineptitude. At the very least CCTV could identify the truck before or after it hit you. I understand that they're busy but he's just giving excuses first and foremost.
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 206 ✭✭Oberkon


    I wonder would the British Police have an attitude like this , I doubt it .
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  • Registered Users Posts: 288 ✭✭Acquiescence


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    Had an SUV pull across from outside lane into the service station, had to follow them in to avoid going under it. Literally a couple of inches. Their passenger saw me and the driver stopped dead and got out, looking around for mysterious cyclist I can only assume, still hadn't seen me and I'm in front of the ****ing car at this point.

    I dunno, that's two very similar in 2 days. Maybe my lane positioning is too passive or I'm going too fast.
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,260 ✭✭✭Kaisr Sose


    Apologies I should clarify so that I'm not wronging the guard completely. He DID say that he would make some sort of effort to get on to the relevant area to try and get footage, but he said that when he was on leave that there would be nobody else taking this up in his absence. I asked him is it not the case that his investigations are picked up by someone else(I'm maybe wrong in thinking that it should be), and he reacted like this was a daft notion.

    He indicated that any examination of CCT is highly unlikely to reveal any meaningful information about the incident. I enquired as to whether there was a way of somehow tracing the guard on the bike and he said no not really, and that there wouldn't be much point in trying.

    I'm not interested in getting into any garda bashing btw, I'd just really like it if the guy in the truck who hit me could be traced somehow.


    Thank god you are OK. You are extremely fortunate to walk away from getting hit by a passing truck. You should get your self checked over.

    Its totally understandable that you were confused afterwards. This does not excuse the attitude of the Garda you spoke to.

    As for what happened at the first station and then Tallaght, its appalling, but so consistent with their policing of incidents like this. Meanwhile, a serious amount of resources are deployed keeping criminals from killing each other.

    Its just not on and I for one see the Garda as fair game for negative comment when this is their attitude to a victim of a hit and run. I would encourage you not to take this fob off and demand they go capture any cctv available on that road or junctions before and afterwards. There cannot be many vehicles of that type on this stretch of road at that time.

    Meanwhile, take it easy and don't make any decision about stopping cycling now.
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  • Posts: 15,661 [Deleted User]


    Mc Love wrote: »
    Finally got to meet the Garda assigned my incident today. Took the footage, and my statement. He was really nice and helpful and took everything on board that I was saying, even had a chat with him which is not what I was expecting at all.

    Much more an outside of Dublin thing maybe but I recall a paragraph at best in the local paper last year of someone being done for dangerously over taking a cyclist on a roundabout in town (footage involved) in the court news section. I had 4 people mention it to me that week. Family, neighbours and a work colleague and they would likely have talked about it with others after my input. This was before new legislation came into effect and those people likely spoke about it further with others so a prosecution and it being publicised can be a cause for change in people. Usually in the local paper it's boring stuff like people up for no insurance etc. Must see if I can find the piece if i can.
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,760 ✭✭✭Effects


    Heading home after a spin up to Glencullen. Made it to the coast in Clontarf then turned up my road, there's a car driving down the wrong side of the road. Slammed on the brakes and turned to avoid but came off the bike. Landed with a tumble, but no damage to myself or the bike.
    The guy said he was manoeuvring to get into a parking spot and was apologetic, after first thinking he was in the right.
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,500 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    5uspect wrote: »
    Today's moron

    And the clear contrast with the two decent drivers ahead of the moron.

    And the absence of any oncoming traffic or bend, any actual reason for the close pass.

    It would make an interesting test case under the new legislation, in the light of the Garda press release from last week saying that all such reports will be fully investigated.

    Try calling Garda TrafficWatch line to report it.
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  • Posts: 15,661 [Deleted User]


    5uspect wrote: »
    Today's moron

    What camera are you using, nice image from it even after youtube has done it's thing to it.
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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 885 ✭✭✭Internet Friend


    Not a near miss but completely moronic driving on the strawberry beds this morning that could have ended very badly.

    Was coming through the speed bump section, just before Strawberry Hall, 2 cars in front of me, 3 behind me. Everyone tipping along at ~30k/hr and keeping close enough together. Very last car (black VW golf) in the group pulls the genius move of deciding to overtake the lot of us, bouncing over the speed bumps and dragging the cars undercarriage along the ground. Driver was very lucky that there was nothing coming the other way or it would have ended in disaster.

    Got into work and started looking up cameras, Hero 7 seems like a good shout. Need to start capturing this stuff and sending it to TW.
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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 885 ✭✭✭Internet Friend


    5uspect wrote: »
    What time was that? I left late today so was down there around 9:30. Might have seen him.

    Was at about 8:20
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,767 ✭✭✭Pinch Flat


    Used to commute on the strawberry beds for a while a few years ago. Have to say my sympathies goes to anyone cycling along there. Absolutely lunatic driving guaranteed there on a daily basis. Reported two incidences of dangerous driving - the gardai did follow up on one, the other fell into obscurity.....
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,260 ✭✭✭Kaisr Sose


    5uspect wrote: »
    I still haven't heard anything back since the attempted murder on the N4 late last year.

    I think this sums up a lot of near misses very well.
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,742 ✭✭✭tnegun


    Same nothing from my close pass and aggressive behavior by the airport hopper driver last week either. Had a bit of a falling down day today in work so was in no humor on the way home. Another Lucan nut this guy aggressively tailgates me, beeps and then completes a punishment pass.

    https://streamable.com/25aif

    I caught up with him a few minutes later and tried to reason but lost my cool and caught up a second time and stuck the camera in his face not too proud of that but shows his reasoning

    https://streamable.com/n3ir1
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,246 ✭✭✭✭Hurrache


    Complaining he can't pass you. Pass you to get where exactly? How much further down the road did he get before he had to soften his beep?
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,742 ✭✭✭tnegun


    I'd say about 1km further down the road if even
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,767 ✭✭✭Pinch Flat


    tnegun wrote: »
    Same nothing from my close pass and aggressive behavior by the airport hopper driver last week either. Had a bit of a falling down day today in work so was in no humor on the way home. Another Lucan nut this guy aggressively tailgates me, beeps and then completes a punishment pass.

    https://streamable.com/25aif

    I caught up with him a few minutes later and tried to reason but lost my cool and caught up a second time and stuck the camera in his face not too proud of that but shows his reasoning

    https://streamable.com/n3ir1

    I find the more car dependent the area the more aggressive the driving. Lucan has to be ground zero for car dependency.
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,353 ✭✭✭Daroxtar




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,545 ✭✭✭droidus


    tnegun wrote: »
    Same nothing from my close pass and aggressive behavior by the airport hopper driver last week either. Had a bit of a falling down day today in work so was in no humor on the way home. Another Lucan nut this guy aggressively tailgates me, beeps and then completes a punishment pass.

    https://streamable.com/25aif

    I caught up with him a few minutes later and tried to reason but lost my cool and caught up a second time and stuck the camera in his face not too proud of that but shows his reasoning

    https://streamable.com/n3ir1

    I think you handled that quite well actually. Stayed calm, got his face so he cant deny he was driving the car if you follow up with the guards - plus he completely incriminated himself.
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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 25,189 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    5uspect wrote: »
    You see, he is so much more important than you on your silly two wheeled toy. He’s someone important in the world and has bought a man’s car. A white one! How dare you be on his road! He’s paid road tax don’t you know? Look at how fast his car can go, and you’re left way behind choking on his dust.

    Anyway you were in the middle of the road or something...

    Highlighted text, he is a drug dealer. I don't know why, I don't know how but driving a clean white car is apparently akin to the phrase "known to the Gardai" in a news report. It means the driver is more than likely a drug dealer.
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,742 ✭✭✭tnegun


    Called it into Traffic Watch to see would the response be any different from Lucan as Leixlip. They wouldn't give me a pulse no and had difficulty telling me which station it would be assigned to.
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  • Registered Users Posts: 928 ✭✭✭Utter Consternation


    Apologies for the language in this. I think his window was open so i had a little word with him.

    https://streamable.com/urk6l
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,767 ✭✭✭Pinch Flat


    https://goo.gl/maps/faxrPF27KZyiyUCa7

    Three mornings in a row I've had 2 or 3 cars cut across me a this junction, all breaking red lights. It's pretty endemic at this junction. taxi man this morning went out of his way to break a red, cutting across the junction and nearly hitting me.

    https://goo.gl/maps/xazv8XHLCP1kYGwy8

    Had 2 unmarked BMW's come through on very late reds, opposite site of the road. They gave their blue lights and sirens a go as they did. Hurtled down the bus lane, full of cyclists. Fairly irresponsible driving. I'm sure it was some politician in a rush to discuss their cycling policy in the Dail.
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,453 ✭✭✭Ray Palmer


    Apologies for the language in this. I think his window was open so i had a little word with him.

    https://streamable.com/urk6l

    In fairness green means proceed if it safe to do so not you have ultimate right of way. You are meant to wait till the road is clear before proceeding. It appears you started to move before the lights had even turned green.
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  • Registered Users Posts: 928 ✭✭✭Utter Consternation


    Ray Palmer wrote: »
    In fairness green means proceed if it safe to do so not you have ultimate right of way. You are meant to wait till the road is clear before proceeding. It appears you started to move before the lights had even turned green.

    I did indeed, a millisecond, well spotted. ;)

    Having said that, yer man was as late as fcuk going through those lights.

    Sick of it at that junction tbh.
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,453 ✭✭✭Ray Palmer


    I did indeed, a millisecond, well spotted. ;)

    Having said that, yer man was as late as fcuk going through those lights.

    Sick of it at that junction tbh.

    Agreed he was but that is expected behaviour hence the law about what green means. Simply you should have waited.
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,139 ✭✭✭What Username Guidelines


    I did indeed, a millisecond, well spotted. ;)

    Having said that, yer man was as late as fcuk going through those lights.

    Sick of it at that junction tbh.

    I stopped going that way specifically because of that junction, and the ****show that is the bus lane > two lanes > three lanes > four lanes that lead up to it.
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 226 ✭✭Shai


    Ray Palmer wrote: »
    In fairness green means proceed if it safe to do so not you have ultimate right of way. You are meant to wait till the road is clear before proceeding. It appears you started to move before the lights had even turned green.

    are we really gonna pretend that car didn't break a red?
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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 10,645 Mod ✭✭✭✭aloooof


    Ray Palmer wrote: »
    Agreed he was but that is expected behaviour hence the law about what green means. Simply you should have waited.

    What about the law about what red means? They were both in the wrong. But to massively different degrees, imo.

    The fact we've gotten to a stage where breaking a red light is "expected behaviour" speaks volumes for how bad the situation is.
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,453 ✭✭✭Ray Palmer


    Shai wrote: »
    are we really gonna pretend that car didn't break a red?

    Did you want them all to stop in the middle of the junction? This known to happen and yes there is a rule which is stop if it is safe to do so. It was not safe to stop.
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,500 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    Travelling at about 37km/h between the two bridges at Hazelhatch Co Dublin according to Strava but that wasn't fast enough for this dick (excuse my language in the video).
    Statement made in Leixlip Garda Stn last night so hopefully three points and a fine for their impatience.
    Just curious - did you just drop in with the video in your hand and ask to make a report on the spot?
    Pinch Flat wrote: »
    https://goo.gl/maps/xazv8XHLCP1kYGwy8

    Had 2 unmarked BMW's come through on very late reds, opposite site of the road. They gave their blue lights and sirens a go as they did. Hurtled down the bus lane, full of cyclists. Fairly irresponsible driving. I'm sure it was some politician in a rush to discuss their cycling policy in the Dail.

    Very, very few politicians have Garda escorts - just Taoiseach, Min Justice and DPP afaik.
    Mc Love wrote: »
    Well they've asked me twice what station but wouldnt give me the pulse number

    They often ask me this question. It bugs me a bit that they don't have the map of Garda boundaries in front of them, but I usually check the boundaries myself before making a report, just to be sure it doesn't get misdirected.
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 226 ✭✭Shai


    Ray Palmer wrote: »
    Did you want them all to stop in the middle of the junction? This known to happen and yes there is a rule which is stop if it is safe to do so. It was not safe to stop.

    Considering it turned green right as the truck entered the junction, and taking into account that there's a delay of a few seconds before one light turns green after the other has turned red, that truck definitely broke the red. At no point was the truck stuck waiting in the junction. He entered the junction after he had a red.
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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 25,189 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    Idleater wrote: »
    That clause is for amber no? Red is just stop.
    You should stop on Amber, the clause is for vehicles already on the junction, they may complete their turn to clear the junction, regardless of the light on the far side (provided it is safe to do so).

    Light goes Amber as the Taxi entered. The Merc enters when it was Amber and should have been able to stop, there was no danger. It is fully red as the Skoda enters and then still Red (obviously) as the truck enters.

    Yes the OP should not have rolled out while vehicles are rolling through, no matter what light colour they had but the only vehicle entering from the right out of the four who did not break the law was the Taxi, who had entered a Yellow box to turn right and was clear to finish it.
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,760 ✭✭✭Effects


    Apologies for the language in this. I think his window was open so i had a little word with him.

    https://streamable.com/urk6l

    I cycle that junction everyday, and it's by far the worst for drivers breaking red lights.

    Have you contacted the company to complain?
    I often leave bad google reviews for companies who have drivers like this.
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,760 ✭✭✭Effects


    Ray Palmer wrote: »
    Did you want them all to stop in the middle of the junction?
    I prefer if drivers don't deliberately break lights, regardless of whether they end up blocking a junction or not.
    Ray Palmer wrote: »
    This known to happen and yes there is a rule which is stop if it is safe to do so. It was not safe to stop.

    Are you on drugs? If I decide I don't want to wait at red lights in my car, and just drive though them instead, do you think the Gardai will accept my excuse that it's dangerous for me to stop because I don't want to?
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,500 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    I went home and downloaded the vids from the cycliqs to a laptop (for backup) and then copied them.onto my phone.
    Showed the garda the phone videos and said I have the originals. She asked could I email them in. When I said they were about 1.5Gb each she looked at me as if I had been speaking Greek.
    Anyhow, apparently the statement will be sent from Leixlip to Celbridge and they may look for the vids

    Thanks, did you give a formal witness statement (handwritten by the Garda on the official form) and signed by you?
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  • Registered Users Posts: 191 ✭✭Steoller


    I went home and downloaded the vids from the cycliqs to a laptop (for backup) and then copied them.onto my phone.
    Showed the garda the phone videos and said I have the originals. She asked could I email them in. When I said they were about 1.5Gb each she looked at me as if I had been speaking Greek.
    Anyhow, apparently the statement will be sent from Leixlip to Celbridge and they may look for the vids
    Celbridge are all right if a little inaccessible. The station's only open on Wednesday from 1 to 4, so any time I've had to go down, it was outside public hours. I hope you got a contact name.
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  • Registered Users Posts: 928 ✭✭✭Utter Consternation


    Effects wrote: »
    I cycle that junction everyday, and it's by far the worst for drivers breaking red lights.

    Have you contacted the company to complain?
    I often leave bad google reviews for companies who have drivers like this.

    It's the pits for red light jumping.

    Nah, i don't bother anymore, i never seem to get a response.
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 891 ✭✭✭sy_flembeck


    An otherwise perfectly pleasant spin around north Wicklow ruined by this joker. It appears the positioning of the temporary lights were my fault. I've deliberately left it longer as I feel it shows the full incident. I wouldn't mind, but I was wearing my 1.5m gilet with a huge camera logo on the back:



    This one will be removed shortly as it's going to Trafficwatch


    Edit: Removed and reported
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 492 ✭✭elchupanebrey


    The fact they nearly hit the ditch on their left to avoid the 1st set of lights should say a lot about their judgement
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