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Near Misses Volume 2 (So close you can feel it)

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  • Registered Users Posts: 192 ✭✭Bot1


    Hurrache wrote: »
    Wow, that's the worse bit of downright dangerous driving I've seen in a while.





    Might be worth going via traffic watch. I imagine each station has a garda assigned to looking after this stuff that comes through traffic watch, you could be taking your chances with whoever you deal with at the public desk at the station. I guess it'll be either Tallaght or Rathfarnham station dealing with that area?

    Incident reported to Traffic Watch!

    They'll contact the local Garda station.
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,483 ✭✭✭Curb Your Enthusiasm


    Jesus tonight, that's one of the worst I've seen on here. Did you report, that guys needs a driving ban

    Driving ban, and also needs his/her PSV licence revoked indefinitely.

    Behaviour from some taxis out there is unbelievable. And the Gardai are the ones granting them PSV licences!
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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 6,855 Mod ✭✭✭✭eeeee


    Mod Note: Troll banned, posts deleted.
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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 25,189 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    Post deleted after moderation
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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 443 ✭✭Hairy Japanese BASTARDS!


    Am I just unlucky or does anyone else find most drivers give too little passing distance? (IE, less than 150 cm)
    Is everyone else just more thick skinned.
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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 25,189 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    Am I just unlucky or does anyone else find most drivers give too little passing distance? (IE, less than 150 cm)
    Is everyone else just more thick skinned.

    More thick skinned, I am just happy enough when I can't touch them, as they pass by. That is learned though and not acceptable. This said I have driven this week and the behaviour by some seems to be not specifically against cyclists. I have cars drifting across lanes on the M50 and N11, switching lanes as you are in the lane beside them. Red light running, well as a co worer said to me as i left, be careful driving today, red lights apparently mean nothing anymore. They were right. If car drivers don't notice other car drivers running lights, there is something wrong with their observation skills.
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,279 ✭✭✭Chiparus




    Usual pinch at a small roundabout,
    Thought I was in luck , when I saw the 3rd Vehicle, but it was not to be.

    Ignore the VIRB - I just use it for editing - easier than the apple video editing, and the date.
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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 6,855 Mod ✭✭✭✭eeeee


    Arsehole.
    That's why I head out and take the whole lane at those roundabouts.

    They didn't even stop pulling in on top of you once you shouted at them! That's bad.
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,767 ✭✭✭Pinch Flat


    That's going to be on my morning commute soon - been doing laps of the park and already had a few similar scenarios there and at the other roundabouts. Definitely be taking the lane there.
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,279 ✭✭✭Chiparus


    buffalo wrote: »
    Brutal lack of observation from the driver there.

    If I was in the same position as yourself, I'd have moved out in advance of the cross hatching to take the lane. The driver is probably only looking to their right to see if they have to yield, and when you're on their right it's easy (but wrong) for them to ignore you. Not so much if you're in front of them.

    And the guard?
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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,296 ✭✭✭VonLuck


    Chiparus wrote: »


    Usual pinch at a small roundabout,
    Thought I was in luck , when I saw the 3rd Vehicle, but it was not to be.

    Ignore the VIRB - I just use it for editing - easier than the apple video editing, and the date.

    I wouldn't entirely blame the driver for that. The road markings clearly indicate solid white stripes so there should not be any vehicles (or bikes) crossing them. It's a failure in the temporary design. If it was me I would go into the car lane before the white stripes for my own safety.
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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 6,855 Mod ✭✭✭✭eeeee


    Chiparus wrote: »
    And the guard?


    I'd say they didn't even see it - they seem to have come up at speed, so looks like they were some distance behind you when it happened?
    Although in fairness they should. When I saw the guards my first thought was that they'd stop the Qashqai but they just steamed on by. I rescind my earlier judgement!
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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 443 ✭✭Hairy Japanese BASTARDS!


    I reported bring clipped two days ago to traffic watch.

    What's the difference between calling traffic watch and just popping into your local Garda station?

    When should I call back again if I don't hear back?
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,121 ✭✭✭mr spuckler


    I reported bring clipped two days ago to traffic watch.

    What's the difference between calling traffic watch and just popping into your local Garda station?

    When should I call back again if I don't hear back?

    It took over 3 months for me to hear from the local station before :mad:

    AFAIK once TW log it in Pulse, it gets assigned to the local station then the Super will assign it to a Garda who'll contact you directly.
    It can happen pretty quickly or it can take a long time as per above...
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,279 ✭✭✭Chiparus


    eeeee wrote: »
    I'd say they didn't even see it - they seem to have come up at speed, so looks like they were some distance behind you when it happened?
    Although in fairness they should. When I saw the guards my first thought was that they'd stop the Qashqai but they just steamed on by. I rescind my earlier judgement!

    Yes I had a look at the rear camera , thay were a long way off.
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 891 ✭✭✭sy_flembeck


    AFAIK once TW log it in Pulse,

    This. And the reg is checked. And the reason why it was checked has to be entered
    Post edited by magicbastarder on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,760 ✭✭✭Effects


    Had a close one with a junkie looking dude on North King Street.
    He stepped out onto the road, then started looking left and right. I assumed he had clocked me, but after looking left, then right, then left again, he just started running. I'd left enough room based on him possibly walking out. Almost ran straight into me.
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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 443 ✭✭Hairy Japanese BASTARDS!


    had a chap in a black BMW close pass me at speed on the malahide road, blaring his horn at me because i was in the bus lane and not the cycle lane. funny thing was, it was before 7pm, so he was not allowed in the bus lane.

    Did you report it?

    I made a report recently where a driver made contact with my handlebars he was driving at about 30 km/h through traffic.

    In hindsight I was probably being petty and shouldn't be wasting time over that

    For more serious ones, I wish you could receive the pulse ID there and then over the phone when you make a report and you could check the status of it online so you're not left hanging.
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,474 ✭✭✭TheChizler


    First day back to the office and I've had the worst overtake since I started cycling again this year. Not particularly bad, just very impatient and indecisive.
    03-D-1899 wrote:
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,474 ✭✭✭TheChizler


    MojoMaker wrote: »
    It looks like she/he was trying to be somewhat courteous, but as you say, utterly indecisive, and ultimately frustrating.

    But if that's the worst that happens this week it will have been a pretty good week I'd say.
    I'm just excited to use my new toy :D
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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,698 ✭✭✭kenmm



    Not sure what to make of that tbh - the cyclist went for a bit of a dangerous overtake themselves. In this case I can see where the Lorry driver/ Gardai are coming from..

    Edit - first camera looks worse, second you can see more clearly. Neither road user comes off well.
    Post edited by magicbastarder on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,561 ✭✭✭Eamonnator



    I didn't see anything wrong with the cyclist's overtake. He checked behind, before overtaking and was back in his lane well before the lorry arrived.
    Post edited by magicbastarder on


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,296 ✭✭✭VonLuck


    kenmm wrote: »
    Not sure what to make of that tbh - the cyclist went for a bit of a dangerous overtake themselves. In this case I can see where the Lorry driver/ Gardai are coming from..

    Edit - first camera looks worse, second you can see more clearly. Neither road user comes off well.

    I agree. No way would I overtake after seeing a truck that close behind me. Not worth the risk.
    Post edited by magicbastarder on


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,698 ✭✭✭kenmm


    I dont see it as a punishment pass - the HGV stays in line with he centre line - the verge/Kerb moves in - making it a bit of a pinch point.

    I wouldn't overtake the cyclist there, not that close to a HGV that's about to pass, (and I wouldn't pass the other cyclist that close either). Yes the cyclist looked behind, but then moved into the path of a lorry (at 80 on that stretch?) as he is about to hit the end of cycle lane/ pinch.

    HGV was irresponsible blaring the horn. That winds people up at best / startles them at worse.

    Like I say - neither come off too well in that clip and there are far worse incidents to get outraged over.
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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,698 ✭✭✭kenmm


    Now the law won't save a vulnerable road user from a dangerous driver that doesn't care but that's not to blame the VRU!

    Exactly - as a vulnerable road user - you need a bit more cop on. The reality is, the lorry may have shown all that exemplary anticipation that you outlined, but was probably was not going to.

    It sounds like I am 'victim blaming' here - but to cry outrage without taking the smallest amount of responsibility is also wrong.
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  • Posts: 15,661 [Deleted User]


    Distance from the rider is shocking but also what you can't see from a video is the draft you can get off a truck passing you and possibly cause you to wobble.
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,169 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    Thats worth traffic watch, no idea how she passed her test.
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  • Posts: 15,661 [Deleted User]


    She saw you for sure because of the hesitation shown in turning in. She's 100% in the wrong there but my self-preservation instinct would not have allowed me to proceed there.
    Post edited by magicbastarder on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,483 ✭✭✭Curb Your Enthusiasm


    Jeez. Traffic Watch for that IMO. Basic enough knowledge of the rules of the road, and just common sense, would tell her to wait for you to pass. She approached you from behind so clearly saw you. Unless her eyes were focused on a screen or something...
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  • Posts: 15,661 [Deleted User]


    I actually didn't think she would go for it, plus as it became clearer I was braking hard but with the rain, I wasn't stopping

    Sorry I was looking at that on a mobile earlier, seeing it on a monitor now forget what I said about self-preservation I had no appreciation of your speed there, you were going down the inside or over the bonnet there.
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 661 ✭✭✭work




    Not getting on a high horse but I am surprised anyone would give the truck a pass he should have the law thrown at him. If you are in charge of a truck you are the largest and most dangerous road user. The onus should be 100% on you to keep others safe but unfortunately in Ireland we avoisd this and you can see it even running through the DNA of this "hardcore cyclist forum". It doesn't matter what the cyclist did, it doesn't matter if it was not ideal, what is important is that the truck driver should be held to account for what he did and banned. He was driving aggressively and carried out a dangerous and close pass well within 1 meter, that blaring of the horn combined with the close pass could easily have killed an inexperienced cyclist that misjudged the overtake of another bike.
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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,698 ✭✭✭kenmm


    work wrote: »
    Not getting on a high horse but I am surprised anyone would give the truck a pass he should have the law thrown at him. If you are in charge of a truck you are the largest and most dangerous road user. The onus should be 100% on you to keep others safe but unfortunately in Ireland we avoisd this and you can see it even running through the DNA of this "hardcore cyclist forum". It doesn't matter what the cyclist did, it doesn't matter if it was not ideal, what is important is that the truck driver should be held to account for what he did and banned. He was driving aggressively and carried out a dangerous and close pass well within 1 meter, that blaring of the horn combined with the close pass could easily have killed an inexperienced cyclist that misjudged the overtake of another bike.

    Safety is the onus of all of us - whether or not you subscribe to the concept of a "hardcore cyclist". By pointing out the cyclist could have done better wouldn't detract from any infraction from the HGV driver.

    The HGV driver should have slowed down, and certainly not had a go on the horn (but that's the Irish way these days..). Slowed down because he just seen someone pull out into his path and an obviously dodgy bit of road.

    I don't believe they performed a punishment pass, and basically continued on his/her intended course (but at the regular speed unfortunately).
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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,698 ✭✭✭kenmm


    https://streamable.com/xnuypr (I do say a few NSFW words so maybe put it on mute if you're sensitive)

    Sh!t that's a close call alright - went over the handlebars once with that carry on (before cameras!). Definitely a report there - need to have a word with that driver!


    Also - probably didn't see you because of the massive air/freshner/ WTF thing hanging from the rear view mirror - how can anyone see round that!
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  • Posts: 15,661 [Deleted User]


    hesker wrote: »
    I think she hesitated to allow the pedestrian clear the entrance. Don’t think the op ever registered with her

    Nice catch. Think you're on the money there.
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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 25,189 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    kenmm wrote: »
    Also - probably didn't see you because of the massive air/freshner/ WTF thing hanging from the rear view mirror - how can anyone see round that!

    Missed that, its basically another pillar creating a blind spot, 100% illegal and a fail on your driving test when I done mine IIRC.
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  • Registered Users Posts: 462 ✭✭padjocollins


    would never have assumed the driver has seen me or will let me pass until i either get eye contact with the driver (difficult here) or see that the car stopped long enough so that it's waiting for me to pass. I would have braked earlier. Safety before being right. The cyclist is always the loser when it gets to damage time. Road conditions are horrible. look at all the water draining too slow into the metal drains. Those drains stick out way too much anyway. Anyway glad nobody got injured.
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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,698 ✭✭✭kenmm


    ye fair enough - I meant it in terms of actively moving toward the cyclist - such as many examples we see here.


    As I say - I don't think either of them done well in this situation. HGV should have at least slowed in anticipation of something going wrong. Cyclist shouldn't have attempted an overtake that would put them in danger. Both should have shown better skills when approaching the pinch point (Which they may or may not have been able to see.. as it looks a really sh!te bit of road).

    EDIT - looking at it on google maps - it really is a crappy bit of road - how is anyone supposed to navigate that safely on a bike..
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,500 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    Aftermath of a near miss for an experienced cyclist - no blood or gore involved, but upsetting all the same

    https://twitter.com/Bernieadufe/status/1280841846873300992?s=19
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,500 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    CramCycle wrote: »
    Missed that, its basically another pillar creating a blind spot, 100% illegal and a fail on your driving test when I done mine IIRC.

    It was the bloody cyclist in the way that prevented the driver from seeing the pedestrian. They get bloody everywhere, you know.
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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,296 ✭✭✭VonLuck


    work wrote: »
    It doesn't matter what the cyclist did, it doesn't matter if it was not ideal, what is important is that the truck driver should be held to account for what he did and banned.

    Sorry, but how does it not matter what the cyclist did? Sure the truck driver was in the wrong, but does that automatically give the cyclist a free pass?
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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 25,189 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    buffalo wrote: »
    How is that not a punishment pass? Sounds the horn so clearly sees the cyclist ahead, but continues on their intended course - i.e. doesn't move out to perform a safe overtake - as punishment for the cyclist's presence. That's textbook punishment pass to me.

    Its also the speed, no mitigation for the cyclist whatsoever. He could have easily taken his foot off the gas when he seen the cyclist overtaking (which was started when the truck was very far back), and completed just before the truck got there. That is good driving, that is risk mitigation. Also seeing two cyclists, hang out a bit anyway, it's a dual carriageway and easily done considering the traffic levels at the time. Also, despite the road closing a bit, you can see really clearly that he merges in a bit, not turns, but merges. It was the definition of a punishment pass. It actually looks like he speeds up to make the pass and slow a bit as he merges.
    Post edited by magicbastarder on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,483 ✭✭✭Curb Your Enthusiasm


    Spotted this on Twitter..

    https://twitter.com/Cowa19942/status/1280840962072293377?s=19

    ---

    And the response from the Landscaping company makes it even worse. Immediately blaming the cyclist..

    https://twitter.com/harharhabbo/status/1280864975163133952?s=19
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,013 ✭✭✭bmc58


    yop wrote: »
    What do people think about this one. I was out early Saturday morning, this is a national road with very little traffic on it Sat morning between Castlebar and Belmullet. At the time I remember muttering something after him and only today I remembered it.
    I've become a bit insulated and used to close passes at this stage.

    https://streamable.com/e6h25v

    Didn't see a lot there.Both cars went over the white line and if you were on the inside you had plenty of room.
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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 25,189 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    Jaysus, the response, does the driver not realise it is on video?
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  • Posts: 15,661 [Deleted User]


    Spotted this on Twitter..

    https://twitter.com/Cowa19942/status/1280840962072293377?s=19

    ---

    And the response from the Landscaping company makes it even worse. Immediately blaming the cyclist..

    https://twitter.com/harharhabbo/status/1280864975163133952?s=19

    "I would ask you or your friend to remove this from your social media circle immediately"

    He took someones word over a video of the incident? Clown.

    I would have replied back that if he wanted it taken down he should call the Gardaí :pac:
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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,296 ✭✭✭VonLuck


    The cyclist (as we saw) had sufficient time to complete the overtake.

    Only part of your post that was relevant to my question! I would not see that as sufficient time. If that was me driving along and saw that cyclist overtake like that, I would have to put on my brakes as the truck driver should have done. If you're causing vehicles to brake you shouldn't be overtaking.

    Yes, all drivers should allow sufficient space in the event that a cyclist has to swerve, but this was an unnecessary movement and he should have waited a few more seconds to overtake for his own safety.
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 478 ✭✭mvt


    First time in over 25 years cycling on the old airport road after someone knocked me down. Within the space of ten minutes, I had a van driver close pass me at traffic lights (MGIF @ jcn with Collins Ave) only to stop at the next set of lights on the exit towards Santry. He then threatened to knock me down next time because "youse cyclists think you're God when you put all that gear on". :rolleyes:
    Then I met this dozy cow who seemed completely oblivious to what I was talking about when I approached her about this left hook (bear in mind that I had a luminous green bag on my back, two bright flashing rear lights (and a front flashing light) and a feckin bright orange bike - not sure how I can become more obvious to a driver)...
    https://streamable.com/xnuypr (I do say a few NSFW words so maybe put it on mute if you're sensitive)

    Ha! Am back on that route for my commute tomorrow.
    While watching them build that apple green knew it would turn into a problem, had a few instances just like yours.
    On a slightly more positive note there is a very nice spacious cafe in the petrol station that opens early till late, a good spot to wait out bad weather...or steady your nerves after a close call:)
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,760 ✭✭✭Effects


    And the response from the Landscaping company makes it even worse. Immediately blaming the cyclist..

    https://twitter.com/harharhabbo/status/1280864975163133952?s=19

    "Cyclist didn't seem to be in full control"

    So does that mean you drive even closer to them?

    I often overtake cyclists that aren't in full control, and make sure to give them a wider berth than ones that are in control.
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  • Posts: 15,661 [Deleted User]


    One or two of the comments make good points about what would happen to that guys insurance had the cyclist been injured or worse. I wonder if that was put to him would it soften his cough and have some strong words with the people he has driving vans with his name on them.
    Post edited by magicbastarder on


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 25,189 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    One or two of the comments make good points about what would happen to that guys insurance had the cyclist been injured or worse. I wonder if that was put to him would it soften his cough and have some strong words with the people he has driving vans with his name on them.

    It wouldn't. There is a video, and he still doesn't see it. If thats his response, I imagine he would double down. Which is a shame after a positive initial response. Poor management and backbone at the wrong time, he'd not care and sadly, would probably be right not too waste time in regards insurance and cost.
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