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Near Misses Volume 2 (So close you can feel it)

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  • #1502
    BoardsMember
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,497 ✭✭✭BoardsMember


    CramCycle wrote: »
    Dear f*cking lord, you really cannot win. On the main road you'd be given out too for not using quieter roads. Use quieter roads and you get this sh1t. Cycle on the path and people give you dirty looks because whether you sow down or not for passing them to close, you cycle on the road to avoid pissing off peds and you have motorists trying to skim you even though they can see the lane is blocked by others.

    What do people f*cking want.

    Hope your son is OK

    Son is fine, blissfully unaware, didn't see the big deal at all. Oh to be a dreamer teenager. There wasn't a near miss, or an issue really, so nothing for him to be bothered about, to be fair. Just a really stupid dude, too small minded to admit he maybe should have approached things differently, and too thick to come up with a retort that made any sense at all.
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  • #1503
    breezy1985
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,129 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Some lads on the GAA forums tonight complaining that the new yellow flou sliotars are too hard to see.
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  • #1504
    Weepsie
    Site Banned Posts: 20,685 ✭✭✭✭Weepsie


    One I witnessed this morn

    I had a car over take me on the river road missing an oncoming car by inches. I was sure I was about to witness a serious crash and had braced myself to bail and all. First time I didn't have a camera in a while too. It was an absolutely ridiculous place to attempt the overtake, and they carried on even after I stuck my arm out to warn them to hold back.

    I don't want to be hit, but I sure as hell don't won't to be ringing for an ambulance for someone else's f*ckwittery
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  • #1505
    bazermc
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,116 ✭✭✭bazermc


    More bonkers parking up by hell fire club/Masseys wood this morning.

    Double yellow lines don’t apply on a Sunday right?
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  • #1506
    CramCycle
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 25,189 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    bazermc wrote: »
    More bonkers parking up by hell fire club/Masseys wood this morning.

    Double yellow lines don’t apply on a Sunday right?

    Any chance of the fuzz popping up there, you'd think after the number of times the fire brigade and ambulances have gotten caught up that way by w@nkers parking badly that they would be more proactive. Young Garda Reilly could spin up at the start of the shift, ticket 40 cars and spend the rest of his shift writing them up if he has nothing else to be at.
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  • #1507
    KevRossi
    Registered Users Posts: 4,490 ✭✭✭KevRossi


    Ho-Lee-Shyte !!! :eek::eek::eek:


    Translation:
    This is absolutely my biggest nightmare and cities like Cologne are still building infrastructure that plans for these types of accidents.


    https://twitter.com/PJUllrich/status/1319600970632921091
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  • #1508
    CramCycle
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 25,189 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    KevRossi wrote: »
    Ho-Lee-Shyte !!! :eek::eek::eek:


    Translation:
    This is absolutely my biggest nightmare and cities like Cologne are still building infrastructure that plans for these types of accidents.


    https://twitter.com/PJUllrich/status/1319600970632921091

    Holy f*ck, there can't have been 5cm between the wheel and his head, that was insane.
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  • #1509
    Pinch Flat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,767 ✭✭✭Pinch Flat


    I must have missed the update in the recent rules of the road. Apparently if you need to overtake cyclists in one of the biggest city parks in Europe, you just barge by and expect what's ever coming against you to stop. Happened to be on early circuits of the Phoenix park on about half a dozen times. Absolutely wedged with cars and abandoned everywhere, even where there was lines of bollards with no parking in them
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  • #1510
    Weepsie
    Site Banned Posts: 20,685 ✭✭✭✭Weepsie


    Pinch Flat wrote: »
    I must have missed the update in the recent rules of the road. Apparently if you need to overtake cyclists in one of the biggest city parks in Europe, you just barge by and expect what's ever coming against you to stop. Happened to be on early circuits of the Phoenix park on about half a dozen times. Absolutely wedged with cars and abandoned everywhere, even where there was lines of bollards with no parking in them

    What time were you there?

    I was there from 9.15-10.45ish. I left due to the volumes of traffic and people pulling out without looking. It stopped being enjoyable.

    Saw a garda car nearly take out a cyclist, though they were indicating to turn right, and the cyclist went to overtake on the right for some reason


    Had another few drivers going very. very slowly evidently looking for parking.

    Had some incidents of cyclists coming right at me in my lane too, and some making very sudden changes in their line when I had nowhere to go.
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  • #1511
    Pinch Flat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,767 ✭✭✭Pinch Flat


    Was there in the early afternoon. had someone pull out from Ashtown castle in front of me when I had right of way with minutes of arriving, so that set the scene. Also had someone overtake me at the wellington monument - I was trying to get to the green cycle lane. Car overtook me and mounted in the cycle lane in use. 2 clear wheels on it, with bikes coming against the car. Families. kids. Lots of close passing going up by the upper glen roads - because of the cars parked either side and the amount of cyclists, cars were just buzzing through _ was paranoid about getting doored so was keeping out. One motorist got impatient an stared beeping at a family crossing at the zoo - that desperately needs a pedestrian crossing as it's an accident waiting to happen - same motorist sped up to cut off the three cyclists heading out at the round about towards park gate street. All in all an unnecessarily unpleasant and stressful experience. It's a public park FFS.
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  • #1512
    Away With The Fairies
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    Not a near miss but more of a rant. Was cycling on a road with traffic islands every few hundred metres.

    Was cycling past one of them, staying on the left hand side of the road when a car decides to join up with me. Leaving very little space between myself and the car. Scary wondering are they going to hit you being so close.
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  • #1513
    Away With The Fairies
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    Seth Brundle wrote: »
    If there's a risk of you being left short of space by an overtaking car then take Primary Position on the road until they can pass you safely.
    https://irishcycle.com/2019/08/07/you-can-cycle-in-the-centre-of-the-road-says-revised-rules-of-the-road/

    Very good, thanks for this. I didn't know I can do this. But I'm guessing now that I do know, will I have drivers being dícks and giving me the horn to move? But fcuk them, I'll cycle in a safe way.
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  • #1514
    breezy1985
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,129 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Was thinking yesterday when out on country roads. What is all the hedgerow on Irish roadsides for. Is it to protect farmers land and would it be a problem to clear it on narrow bends to help viability?
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  • #1515
    AndrewJRenko
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,500 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    breezy1985 wrote: »
    Was thinking yesterday when out on country roads. What is all the hedgerow on Irish roadsides for. Is it to protect farmers land and would it be a problem to clear it on narrow be ds to help viability?

    It would certainly be a problem for all the wildlife that live in the hedgerow. It would probably result in drivers doing higher speeds on average too.
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  • #1516
    breezy1985
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,129 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    AndrewJRenko wrote: »
    It would certainly be a problem for all the wildlife that live in the hedgerow. It would probably result in drivers doing higher speeds on average too.

    Never thought of the wildlife tbh. Just noticed from watching European cycling that ourselves and the UK are the only ones seem to plant this hedgerow on every road and was wondering why
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  • #1517
    BoardsMember
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,497 ✭✭✭BoardsMember


    breezy1985 wrote: »
    Was thinking yesterday when out on country roads. What is all the hedgerow on Irish roadsides for. Is it to protect farmers land and would it be a problem to clear it on narrow bends to help viability?

    It's to do about bio diversity. Lots of animals and plants survive because of the hedgerows.

    Better we ask road users to adjust driving behaviour to conditions, rather than look to bend to their will.
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  • #1518
    breezy1985
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,129 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    BoardsMember wrote: »
    It's to do about bio diversity. Lots of animals and plants survive because of the hedgerows.

    Better we ask road users to adjust driving behaviour to conditions, rather than look to bend to their will.

    I'm not disagreeing but those hedgerows were planted long before we had a clue about biodiversity so that's not why they were planted. But I'm not against it as a reason to keep them
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  • #1519
    breezy1985
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,129 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Seth Brundle wrote: »
    I think they were planted as field boundaries to stop animals wandering (and possibly for defence?). They are also usually accompanied by a drain to help allow excess water to leave the soil.

    Probably why you don't see them too much on the roads in the Tour de France. Not much chance of all those yellow sunflowers and wheat stalks running over into the next field
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  • #1520
    Weepsie
    Site Banned Posts: 20,685 ✭✭✭✭Weepsie


    breezy1985 wrote: »
    Never thought of the wildlife tbh. Just noticed from watching European cycling that ourselves and the UK are the only ones seem to plant this hedgerow on every road and was wondering why

    Didn't kimmage reference this in Rough Ride?

    Something to do with how the continental cyclists were so good with crosswinds or something because they haven't grown up protected from winds by hedgerows
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  • #1521
    Seanmk1
    Registered Users Posts: 119 ✭✭Seanmk1


    Seth Brundle wrote: »
    You often see that here also where tillage farmers keep hedges right down because the headlands around the sides if a field tend to have lower yields due to the shade, amongst other things.

    Some of the NCD hedgerows come with instructions
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  • #1522
    Seanmk1
    Registered Users Posts: 119 ✭✭Seanmk1


    Seth Brundle wrote: »
    You often see that here also where tillage farmers keep hedges right down because the headlands around the sides if a field tend to have lower yields due to the shade, amongst other things.

    Some of the NCD hedgerows come with instructions 😀
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  • #1523
    Pinch Flat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,767 ✭✭✭Pinch Flat


    Posted in the phoenix park thread as well.

    Was heading down by the Aras in the Phoenix park earlier. On the drops and going at pace - 40 kph plus. €150 worth of seesense lights blaring back and front. Still didn't stop some dope overtaking me and pulling into the cycle lane, stopping abruptly in front of me. He swerved in without warning i genuinely thought he was deliberately trying to kill me or he had collapsed at the wheel. Closest I've come to being milled in a while. Never under estimate the tools on the road.
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  • #1524
    AndrewJRenko
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,500 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    Very close near miss left hook courtesy of a Dublin taxi driver

    https://streamable.com/8srvjw
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  • #1525
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 15,661 ✭ [Deleted User]


    AndrewJRenko wrote: »
    Very close near miss left hook courtesy of a Dublin taxi driver

    https://streamable.com/8srvjw

    What cyclist? sure all I could see was the sun judge.
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  • #1526
    AndrewJRenko
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,500 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    Make sure you wear bright colours so drivers can see you on the road;

    https://streamable.com/27rz47
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  • #1527
    sy_flembeck
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 891 ✭✭✭sy_flembeck


    AndrewJRenko wrote: »
    Make sure you wear bright colours so drivers can see you on the road;

    https://streamable.com/27rz47

    I experienced a lot of very poor driving today for some reason.
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  • #1528
    suffering golfer
    Registered Users Posts: 1,922 ✭✭✭suffering golfer


    AndrewJRenko wrote: »
    Make sure you wear bright colours so drivers can see you on the road;

    https://streamable.com/27rz47

    Maybe I am missing a bit of the clip, but it looks like he indicated when the cyclist was behind, seem to be a cyclist error.
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  • #1529
    breezy1985
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,129 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    magicbastarder wrote: »
    indicating does not give you right of way.


    Flashing orange lights on a car allow you to do whatever you like. Turn through people, park on double yellows, stop in the middle of roads
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  • #1530
    AndrewJRenko
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,500 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    suffering golfer wrote: »
    Maybe I am missing a bit of the clip, but it looks like he indicated when the cyclist was behind, seem to be a cyclist error.

    Is that how you drive on a dual carriageway - indicate and pull across the inside lane of traffic assuming they will pull out of your way?
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  • #1531
    [Deleted User]
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    No excuse for the car but the guy does himself no favors either in that if he had to apply heavy breaking he only had one to choose from it was the one that was sending him over the bars. Was he on his phone there?
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  • #1532
    suffering golfer
    Registered Users Posts: 1,922 ✭✭✭suffering golfer


    magicbastarder wrote: »
    indicating does not give you right of way.

    The car was ahead of him and indicating... He the one that has right of way. Cyclist could see clearly what happening and has time to react, he could have slowed down as the majority of cyclists would have done in that situation.
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  • #1533
    Pinch Flat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,767 ✭✭✭Pinch Flat


    suffering golfer wrote: »
    The car was ahead of him and indicating... He the one that has right of way. Cyclist could see clearly what happening and has time to react, he could have slowed down as the majority of cyclists would have done in that situation.

    Yeah but again this situation is not the same for cars travelling on a dual carriageway. You can't just pull across from the right lane and swing left, ignoring the car on your inside left.
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  • #1534
    breezy1985
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,129 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    It wouldnt have bothered me if I was on the bike. You can see him turning from a fair bit back. Its not the same as an overtake and turn
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  • #1535
    VonLuck
    Registered Users Posts: 2,296 ✭✭✭VonLuck


    Car was in the wrong, but as a cyclist you should always be prepared for things like that. In an ideal world you shouldn't have to, but I always follow the mantra that cyclists are invisible to vehicles and you should try to behave like that's always the case.
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  • #1536
    AndrewJRenko
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,500 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    suffering golfer wrote: »
    The car was ahead of him and indicating... He the one that has right of way.

    Please tell me that you're not a driver. Please tell me you don't drive like this, slapping on your indicator to claim ' right of way and cutting up other road users?
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  • #1537
    AndrewJRenko
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,500 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    No excuse for the car but the guy does himself no favors either in that if he had to apply heavy breaking he only had one to choose from it was the one that was sending him over the bars. Was he on his phone there?

    He had a coffee in his left hand and was tootling along a very gentle speed.
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  • #1538
    CramCycle
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 25,189 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    The cyclist had stopped pedalling before the video even started, he was well prepared for it and slowing, I'd even go as far as to say he was letting the car go.
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  • #1539
    breezy1985
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,129 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    CramCycle wrote: »
    The cyclist had stopped pedalling before the video even started, he was well prepared for it and slowing, I'd even go as far as to say he was letting the car go.

    Also everyone looks like they are going about 5kph
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  • #1540
    blackwhite
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,968 ✭✭✭blackwhite


    suffering golfer wrote: »
    The car was ahead of him and indicating... He the one that has right of way.


    The cycle lane has a solid white line - it's a distinct separate lane that's being crossed. If you're leaving your lane, you don't have priority over someone who's already in the lane.



    If it was a broken line then you'd be correct as both would be in the same lane - but that isn't the case here.
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  • #1541
    TheChizler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,474 ✭✭✭TheChizler


    Clip isn't long enough to say for sure tbh. You're not allowed to overtake on the left while cycling if a vehicle ahead has indicitated left and it's likely they'll be turning before you overtake. As someone said above it's entirely possible the driver was indicating well in advance and the cyclist was holding back waiting for them to turn as they're supposed to. They were clearly waiting for them, not pedalling. Actually looks like they're concentrating on holding something in their left hand?
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  • #1542
    CramCycle
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 25,189 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    Of all the poor driving incidents that go on, this is simply not one of them based on the video. Cyclist has slowed / given way, video doesn't show anything much pre turn but based on that I would have to say that the cyclist not only expected it and gave way, he may have even signalled it as the car seems to be holding back until the cyclist has slowed.

    if I was driving, I wouldn't have turned but I see nothing dangerous there, and there is plenty to give out about on that road daily.
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  • #1543
    TheChizler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,474 ✭✭✭TheChizler


    CramCycle wrote: »
    if I was driving, I wouldn't have turned but I see nothing dangerous there, and there is plenty to give out about on that road daily.
    Last time I was driving in that situation I was given out to for waiting for them to overtake when they were waiting for me to turn, some people really don't like losing momentum!
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  • #1544
    Kiss1037
    Registered Users Posts: 28 ✭Kiss1037


    blackwhite wrote: »
    The cycle lane has a solid white line - it's a distinct separate lane that's being crossed. If you're leaving your lane, you don't have priority over someone who's already in the lane.



    If it was a broken line then you'd be correct as both would be in the same lane - but that isn't the case here.

    Line looks like a broken line at the junction , Honestly, what is the correct protocol here as seems to always have 2 views is there consistency in the law or as usual just grey area
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  • #1545
    blackwhite
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,968 ✭✭✭blackwhite


    Kiss1037 wrote: »
    Line looks like a broken line at the junction , Honestly, what is the correct protocol here as seems to always have 2 views is there consistency in the law or as usual just grey area

    Lines change to broken at a junction to indicate that it's legal to cross the lane. It doesn't change that the cycle lane is marked and signed as a mandatory cycle lane with a solid white before and after - with hours of operation indicated also

    https://www.google.ie/maps/@53.3237934,-6.2510065,3a,66.8y,130.91h,93.2t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sXUPTXA6Sjl1lFrWOYQbDFQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192


    Further back (from Nightmarket back towards the city) is a non-Mandatory lane, and is marked as such with a broken line.
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  • #1546
    VonLuck
    Registered Users Posts: 2,296 ✭✭✭VonLuck


    Speaking of crossing cycle lanes, someone I know was in an incident a few weeks ago where he was cycling along and a car was crossing the road in front of him (perpendicular to the main road from a side road straight across to an entrance to a driveway). This was a reasonable distance ahead, maybe 50m. The car stopped in the middle of the road to let a pedestrian cross in front of his driveway, but the guy I know kept cycling on because the car was stopped and the bike lane was clear. Car moved off again, crossing the bike lane, and the guy I know slammed on his bike brakes to avoid a collision and flew head over heels.

    I thought he should have waited for the car to complete the movement as he could see what was happening, but I figure he thought it would be safe to do so with the bike lane free in that moment. There was a solid white line along the bike lane and based on previous comments that could be a factor?

    Seems very grey to me, but I wonder if he has a claim for the bit of damage to his bike.
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  • #1547
    breezy1985
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,129 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    VonLuck wrote: »
    Speaking of crossing cycle lanes, someone I know was in an incident a few weeks ago where he was cycling along and a car was crossing the road in front of him (perpendicular to the main road from a side road straight across to an entrance to a driveway). This was a reasonable distance ahead, maybe 50m. The car stopped in the middle of the road to let a pedestrian cross in front of his driveway, but the guy I know kept cycling on because the car was stopped and the bike lane was clear. Car moved off again, crossing the bike lane, and the guy I know slammed on his bike brakes to avoid a collision and flew head over heels.

    I thought he should have waited for the car to complete the movement as he could see what was happening, but I figure he thought it would be safe to do so with the bike lane free in that moment. There was a solid white line along the bike lane and based on previous comments that could be a factor?

    Seems very grey to me, but I wonder if he has a claim for the bit of damage to his bike.

    If he knew the car was trying to turn into the driveway and only stopped for a pedestrian ide say the cyclist was being selfish. He could either wait or if possible go round the outside of the turning car. Sounds like the kind of must pass driving we all hate
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  • #1548
    breezy1985
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,129 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    MojoMaker wrote: »
    Cyclist in the wrong here, or more to the point, car is not in the wrong - as hard as that is to admit. Another point - given Ranelagh is one of the tightest chokepoints on the City--> Southside rat corridors and extremely variable even on a good day, why would you choose to keep one hand occupied and not involved in controlling the bike??

    No coffee is that good!! :pac:

    I didn't notice the coffee first time but on first watch no one was at fault. A car slowly indicated and turned ahead of a bike that had plenty of time to saunter past. All I see is 2 considerate road users
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  • #1549
    VonLuck
    Registered Users Posts: 2,296 ✭✭✭VonLuck


    I think the key point here is that both road users need to be aware of each other and assume they're going to the wrong thing, regardless of what the law says that they should do.
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  • #1550
    juicer
    Registered Users Posts: 24 ✭juicer


    Seth Brundle wrote: »
    Quick question on garda traffic watch - how long does it usually take for the station to call back after you notify traffic watch of a dangerous/inconsiderate overtake?
    Phoned them on Monday morning and have heard nothing back since.


    Took them 2/3 days to contact me when I made a report a few months ago.
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  • #1551
    Don't Chute!
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,842 ✭✭✭Don't Chute!


    I haven’t posted in this thread before because I don’t have a camera while cycling but this morning I had my absolute worst encounter yet. Coming from Delgany out onto the N11 just as I was merging from the slip road a boy racer type car absolutely blew past me. He was coming from Delgany too. I’m not exaggerating when I say he must have been doing between 120 and 140 kph. If I had bent my elbow outwards I would have hit the car. He left no room for error whatsoever. Was it deliberate? I wouldn’t be surprised. I was apoplectic shouting at him.
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