Near Misses Volume 2 (So close you can feel it)

Seaswimmer

Aegir wrote: »

We had a similar thing happen in our estate and the kid was so scared they hopped off the bike and ran home. The passenger of the car got out and took the kids bike indoors with him as a punishment.

Unfortunately for the guy, the kids dad is a retired Leinster lock and after a “word” he has promised never to do it again.

Can they talk?? Not from the scrum sounds anyway!!

Thargor

I was reminded of those surveys that showed a lot of drivers dont perceive cyclists as fully human, like not in a million years would you even think of driving at a child walking in the road and blow a car horn right into their ears like that but because they were on a little plastic balance bike they didnt see an issue with risking their life and scaring the crap out of them for no reason, its completely insane. Ill be looking for him again to say it to him :mad:

https://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/racing/half-car-drivers-think-cyclists-not-fully-human-according-new-study-411816#:~:text=Stothard%2FGetty%20Images)-,More%20than%20half%20of%20car%20drivers%20think%20cyclists%20are%20not,according%20to%20new%20university%20research.&text=%E2%80%9CIf%20cyclists%20feel%20dehumanised%20by,further%20fuels%20dehumanisation%20against%20them.

CramCycle

No indicator until he starts to merge over but I copped the slight merge hence the brake pull in time

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXkAC1zrfy0

AndrewJRenko

magicbastarder wrote: »

well, the gardai want all info now - there's a clear reg visible in that.

And expect the "but why weren't you in the cycle lane* question in 5, 4, 3, 2, 1.....

CramCycle

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

And expect the "but why weren't you in the cycle lane* question in 5, 4, 3, 2, 1.....

I expect that but there is good reason. About 200m before this the cycle lane cuts in and out around a bus stop and it collects leaves, has a ridge and a drain cover, as well as confusion in what appears to be an unsigned shared space area. Too many times I have seen cyclists come down there, so during wet weather so I take the bus lane from just before the cut in. I stay in the bus lane for the 100m as it is safer to cut back in where the lane and road are at the same level. The cut back in after the bus stop is so sharp, lots of taxis and buses slam on the brakes if you are in it as they think you are going to fly out into them. I was moving the same speed as any bus would have been approaching a red light so I certainly was not impeding traffic.

The J Stands for Jay

CramCycle wrote: »

I also find N plates a warning sign.

Bigger warning is a car with N and L plates

Thelonious Monk

fatbhoy wrote: »

Of course I was in too much shock to do anything about it. He was very apologetic. Seemed like a decent lad. Sprawled out on the road. Bike was okay. Didn't seem like any significant injuries, so kept going on my spin.

This reminded me of my car door experience. Cycling along St Stephen's Green towards Leeson St and I got car doored by someone getting out of a parked car. Came off and my jeans were all ripped, bits of gravel embedded in my palms and my ankle really hurt. The man was all apologetic but I just shooed him away and limped back to work.
Afterwards I was thinking what you're supposed to do in those situations? It was a pair of diesel jeans worth about 160 quid and I was pretty shook up.
Are they liable for anything?
I nearly got car doored nearby soon afterwards when someone stopped outside Top Shop on St Stephen's Green to let his mate out of the car and I lost it at the guy getting out that I had to jam on for. Must have been pent up.

crisco10

CramCycle wrote: »

I expect that but there is good reason. About 200m before this the cycle lane cuts in and out around a bus stop and it collects leaves, has a ridge and a drain cover, as well as confusion in what appears to be an unsigned shared space area. Too many times I have seen cyclists come down there, so during wet weather so I take the bus lane from just before the cut in. I stay in the bus lane for the 100m as it is safer to cut back in where the lane and road are at the same level. The cut back in after the bus stop is so sharp, lots of taxis and buses slam on the brakes if you are in it as they think you are going to fly out into them. I was moving the same speed as any bus would have been approaching a red light so I certainly was not impeding traffic.

you forgot to mention the walkway from the estate and the pedestrian crossing in the same shared space.

Know that stretch well and the cycle lane is basically a doodle on a road planners drawing. Add to that the long downhill, which means you are travelling quicker, it just makes much more sense to be in the bus lane.

mrcheez

BMW quelle surprise?

I also keep a wide berth of "KE", "C" or yellow plates.

AndrewJRenko

CramCycle wrote: »

I expect that but there is good reason. About 200m before this the cycle lane cuts in and out around a bus stop and it collects leaves, has a ridge and a drain cover, as well as confusion in what appears to be an unsigned shared space area. Too many times I have seen cyclists come down there, so during wet weather so I take the bus lane from just before the cut in. I stay in the bus lane for the 100m as it is safer to cut back in where the lane and road are at the same level. The cut back in after the bus stop is so sharp, lots of taxis and buses slam on the brakes if you are in it as they think you are going to fly out into them. I was moving the same speed as any bus would have been approaching a red light so I certainly was not impeding traffic.

That's a good answer.

Another good answer is "because I felt like it" because you don't have to justify your route choices to anyone. You don't have to choose your route to minimise inconvenience to others.

CramCycle

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

That's a good answer.

Another good answer is "because I felt like it" because you don't have to justify your route choices to anyone. You don't have to choose your route to minimise inconvenience to others.

You are of course correct but sometimes discretion is the better part of valour. In a situation where I was pulled up on it for no reason, I would go with your response. In this scenario, I feel it gets across that I have actually thought about my actions and therefore am a reasonably attentive road user. It, hopefully, immediately dispels the concern of the Garda that I might have provoked the driver earlier (which should never be a reason or an excuse, but adds a layer on top for the Garda (I also have it on rear camera so no concern there if they did ask)).

tjhook

magicbastarder wrote: »

but what really annoyed me was his car had a nurburgring sticker on it. a yaris with a nurburgring sticker. the car should be taken from him and crushed.

Apologies in advance for this segway. After your comment I had a random thought wondering if people can cycle on the nurburgring. Sure enough!

I'd say that'd be an experience.

CramCycle

More climbing than I would have thought on it https://www.strava.com/segments/5539685

CramCycle

CramCycle wrote: »

More climbing than I would have thought on it https://www.strava.com/segments/5539685

Yeah this is the thing about watching F1 racing on TV you never a true sense of the road rising, Spa is the same from what I recall of it.

micar

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uae0OYntUNs

This was put up in the dash cam in the motorist section.

The YouTube description say "deliveroo cyclists......are a bane to motorists and here is why"

Thankfully the poster (who's also the driver) hasn't got any support.

VonLuck

micar wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uae0OYntUNs

This was put up in the dash cam in the motorist section.

The YouTube description say "deliveroo cyclists......are a bane to motorists and here is why"

Thankfully the poster (who's also the driver) hasn't got any support.

Video is unavailable now. Must have taken it down if s/he was on the receiving end of abuse. What happened?

breezy1985

VonLuck wrote: »

Video is unavailable now. Must have taken it down if s/he was on the receiving end of abuse. What happened?

Clearly he assumed all his motorist buddies would pile on in support and admiration but common sense prevailed

Edit: sorry I thought you meant what happened to the video not in it

Tombo2001

MojoMaker wrote: »

Glad to hear it. Was there even a hint of remorse or enlightenment from the uploader with his new-found understanding?

Zero chance.

Not interested in what is right or wrong, only interested in targetting someone they look down on - and getting lots of 'likes' from people of a similar mind.

CramCycle

Tombo2001 wrote: »

Zero chance.

Deleted when randomers on youtube started heavy on the thumbs down and asking was he joking or a muppet.

CramCycle

magicbastarder wrote: »

'lots of likes' being 'none'.
certainly on the dashcam thread, but not sure if you're referring to youtube?
he didn't get a single thanks on the post with the video, or any subsequent posts justifying his stance.

I was referring to youtube, 4 thumbs up, alot more thumbs down.

Steoller

magicbastarder wrote: »

i've been watching a few dashcam compilations of late, on an english youtube channel, and the amusing part is 90% of the comments is people enjoying the irony of so many people sending videos in which reveal their *own* colossal idiocy. they send the video in clearly with the intent of a 'look at this dose' reaction, and they're the dose.

That is also a guilty pleasure of mine - figuring out the ToTW before going to the comments.

Weepsie

Got a call from Gardai in relation to my complaint of a very near miss and guy then trying to push me off my bike. Offered my a fine & pts and a caution or could go to court.

They agreed that if he disputes it and says I hit his car they'll just say it proves he was too close. Happy to go with the fine, because court is his word against mine, and could get someone like Nolan or Zaidan who will find a reason to believe I was somehow wrong.

First time using trafficwatch, and only did it because of his reaction, but happy enough with that.

Eamonnator

And Nolan is in the Circuit Court.

AndrewJRenko

Weepsie wrote: »

Got a call from Gardai in relation to my complaint of a very near miss and guy then trying to push me off my bike. Offered my a fine & pts and a caution or could go to court.

They agreed that if he disputes it and says I hit his car they'll just say it proves he was too close. Happy to go with the fine, because court is his word against mine, and could get someone like Nolan or Zaidan who will find a reason to believe I was somehow wrong.

First time using trafficwatch, and only did it because of his reaction, but happy enough with that.

The points are the bigger impact than the fine. He'll be thinking of you fondly for each of his next three insurance renewals.

sy_flembeck

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

The points are the bigger impact than the fine. He'll be thinking of you fondly for each of his next three insurance renewals.

And the half a dozen reg checks on Pulse against his vehicle won't help if he decides to go for a repeat anytime

tnegun

buffalo wrote: »

That's the most satisfactory result I've gotten from reporting, and it's the only time I haven't gone through TrafficWatch. Part of me wonders if they take you more seriously when you go to the effort of showing up at the station to make the complaint straight off, but it's probably just luck of the draw.

Funny you say that my experience has been the exact same, traffic watch just adds an extra layer and hassle of having to arrange to meet the guard it assigned to where as if you do it in person everything is done in one maybe two visits if you've to drop in a USB of the footage.

Right call made there, you were dead right. Why should you be out of pocket due to someone else's negligence. You hear people going on about claim culture that certainly isn't it.

Our local domino's is a fatality waiting to happen, it's right next to a T junction and drivers regularly fly in and out crossing a footpath coming the wrong side of the road to get a short cut to the delivery entrance/carpark.

https://www.google.com/maps/@53.7130872,-6.3462745,3a,75y,194.48h,87.44t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sdAZqtazxzPZslgyojD5jfQ!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo0.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DdAZqtazxzPZslgyojD5jfQ%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D150.36415%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192

I've 2 emails saved complaining about this in the event something ever happens there.

micar

Deleted User wrote: »

Right call made there, you were dead right. Why should you be out of pocket due to someone else's negligence. You hear people going on about claim culture that certainly isn't it.

Our local domino's is a fatality waiting to happen, it's right next to a T junction and drivers regularly fly in and out crossing a footpath coming the wrong side of the road to get a short cut to the delivery entrance/carpark.

https://www.google.com/maps/@53.7130872,-6.3462745,3a,75y,194.48h,87.44t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sdAZqtazxzPZslgyojD5jfQ!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo0.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DdAZqtazxzPZslgyojD5jfQ%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D150.36415%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192

I've 2 emails saved complaining about this in the event something ever happens there.

Sounded like my local Domino.......and is actually is.

Absolutely crazy how they drive in and out.

Was driving up the Dublin rd coming passed the St Mary's church .....I was in the right hand lane ...some prick flew passed me on left and pulled across the front of me to take thd right turn up Mary's Street....low and behold he drove into the back of Dominos.

I felt like ringing down when I got home to complain.

Always so careful crossing the road there with the dog .... you just never know a car is going to come from.

You're right...there is going to be an accident there one day

Yeah I sometimes walk the dog/kids passed the church and take a right up the hill there and on a weekend evening you want your wits about you at tea times.

kennethsmyth

Let me know if this should be with traffic watch or just count it as another driver not caring and have to get past as they are more important than safely passing.

Sorry about bad language but caught me on the hop, I normally keep an eye out in my mirror.

https://youtu.be/Tth0Y3Pr770

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tth0Y3Pr770

11LD1524 blue golf
Blue golf decides to pass me in a tight spot with oncoming traffic so has to squeeze ontop of me. I could of touched his car with my hand no problem but concentrated on keeping straight. They didn't seem to acknowledge me at all. I cycle at around 30kph so I don't use shared path/cycle lane as it stops/starts and people walk/run on it. This was on way out of balbriggan on daily cycle - let me know should I report it?

micar

Seth Brundle wrote: »

I'd report that!
It wouldn't surprise me if they deliberately were punishing you not being on the (crappy) cycle path.

VW Golf.....not surprised..... driven by a lot of young lads.

ED E

kennethsmyth wrote: »

Let me know if this should be with traffic watch

Wouldnt be surprised if the Gardai ask you why you werent on the cycle lane and dismiss you. Try anyways but it seems like a few stations in that area are totally useless shower, even by AGS' woeful standards.

07Lapierre

kennethsmyth wrote: »

Let me know if this should be with traffic watch or just count it as another driver not caring and have to get past as they are more important than safely passing.

Sorry about bad language but caught me on the hop, I normally keep an eye out in my mirror.

11LD1524 blue golf
Blue golf decides to pass me in a tight spot with oncoming traffic so has to squeeze ontop of me. I could of touched his car with my hand no problem but concentrated on keeping straight. They didn't seem to acknowledge me at all. I cycle at around 30kph so I don't use shared path/cycle lane as it stops/starts and people walk/run on it. This was on way out of balbriggan on daily cycle - let me know should I report it?

A classic example of bad cycling infrastructure being worse than no cycling infrastructure!
If that cycle lane was just a regular pavement, I think any Guard would have to agree that the motorists was a muppet.

breezy1985

micar wrote: »

VW Golf.....not surprised..... driven by a lot of young lads.

And young lads just like cyclists should a be lumped in together and judged as one person

VonLuck

kennethsmyth wrote: »

Blue golf decides to pass me in a tight spot with oncoming traffic so has to squeeze ontop of me. I could of touched his car with my hand no problem but concentrated on keeping straight. They didn't seem to acknowledge me at all. I cycle at around 30kph so I don't use shared path/cycle lane as it stops/starts and people walk/run on it. This was on way out of balbriggan on daily cycle - let me know should I report it?

I'm always torn on these situations. Yes, the car was entirely in the wrong, but there also was a usable cycle lane beside you. I say 'usable' because I get that there are issues with it being a shared path/cycle lane in parts and you go at 30kmph, but there could be the argument to go slower.

Unfortunately it's a case of being damned if you do, damned if you don't. Why don't local authorities prevent these from being constructed? Do they not know of the issues associated with them?

breezy1985

VonLuck wrote: »

I'm always torn on these situations. Yes, the car was entirely in the wrong, but there also was a usable cycle lane beside you. I say 'usable' because I get that there are issues with it being a shared path/cycle lane in parts and you go at 30kmph, but there could be the argument to go slower.

Unfortunately it's a case of being damned if you do, damned if you don't. Why don't local authorities prevent these from being constructed? Do they not know of the issues associated with them?

Why should a cyclist who can safely travel at 30kph slow down. Do cyclists not have the right to commute to work a quickly as possible within the legal limits like a car can.

I often use the road in similar situations because of the many near crashes or abuse I get from idiot pedestrians who can't navigate a path that is colour coded for them

doughef

kennethsmyth wrote: »

Let me know if this should be with traffic watch or just count it as another driver not caring and have to get past as they are more important than safely passing.

Sorry about bad language but caught me on the hop, I normally keep an eye out in my mirror.

https://youtu.be/Tth0Y3Pr770

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tth0Y3Pr770

11LD1524 blue golf
Blue golf decides to pass me in a tight spot with oncoming traffic so has to squeeze ontop of me. I could of touched his car with my hand no problem but concentrated on keeping straight. They didn't seem to acknowledge me at all. I cycle at around 30kph so I don't use shared path/cycle lane as it stops/starts and people walk/run on it. This was on way out of balbriggan on daily cycle - let me know should I report it?

100% your fault. Cycle lane was there but you chose to ignore it

a_squirrelman

doughef wrote: »

100% your fault. Cycle lane was there but you chose to ignore it

It's his fault that that car drove within a whisker of him? Hmmm.

doughef

a_squirrelman wrote: »

It's his fault that that car drove within a whisker of him? Hmmm.

No - he shouldn’t of been there . There is literally a cycle lane on that road

breezy1985

a_squirrelman wrote: »

It's his fault that that car drove within a whisker of him? Hmmm.

Don't bother. This mad gas edgelord was around a few months back trying all this nonsense on this thread. I wouldn't take anything he says seriously

doughef

breezy1985 wrote: »

Don't bother. This mad gas edgelord was around a few months back trying all this nonsense on this thread. I wouldn't take anything he says seriously

I’m quite genuine. Just because you don’t like the truth.

Simple fact is the guy chose to ignore the cycle land and place himself in harms way.

(Waits for ban)

Hurrache

doughef wrote: »

No - he shouldn’t of been there . There is literally a cycle lane on that road

Have you a driving licence? You shouldn't if you do.

07Lapierre

doughef wrote: »

100% Not your fault. Cycle lane path was there but you chose to ignore to use the other cycle lane

FYP

AndrewJRenko

doughef wrote: »

100% your fault. Cycle lane was there but you chose to ignore it

The M1 motorway is there, but the driver chose to ignore it. 100% the driver's fault.

doughef wrote: »

No - he shouldn’t of been there . There is literally a cycle lane on that road

Try reading up on the laws around cycle lanes and have another go.

07Lapierre

doughef wrote: »

(Waits for ban)

Ban from Boards.ie or Ban from driving? (or both)

CramCycle

doughef wrote: »

100% your fault. Cycle lane was there but you chose to ignore it

100%, I once seen a jogger in the bike lane rather than on the footpath so I skimmed him and effectively knocked him over because of this infraction. A lot of people seem to forget on this forum that any perceived sleight or perceived breach of the rules can be met with what can only be described as vigilante style justice. Also that, said justice can have consequences far more severe than the initial perceived crime would have ever possibly caused (and by that I mean none). Just ignore the other posters doughef, completely the cyclists fault and completely justified.

Weepsie

I kick the wing mirrors off any private vehicle in bus lanes during operational hours. It's their own fault given they're not supposed to be there :rolleyes:

breezy1985

Weepsie wrote: »

I kick the wing mirrors off any private vehicle in bus lanes during operational hours. It's their own fault given they're not supposed to be there :rolleyes:

I do kinda wish the buses would do this as they pass

AndrewJRenko

doughef wrote: »

.

(Waits for ban)

Are you waiting to be banned a second time from the thread?

a_squirrelman

doughef wrote: »

No - he shouldn’t of been there . There is literally a cycle lane on that road

So because you think he shouldn't have been there then it's his fault the driver did that?



He's perfectly entitled to be on the road, even though there is a cycle path. But you know that already.