Near Misses Volume 2 (So close you can feel it)

magicbastarder · 08-09-2023 4:25pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121085759#Comment_121085759

exactly. it's like saying the shooting of JFK was not a criminal act because no one was convicted of it.

tnegun · 11-09-2023 10:49pm

Mirror, indicate anyone! https://streamable.com/2r219l

Wildly Boaring · 11-09-2023 10:53pm

Arsehole

tnegun · 11-09-2023 11:10pm

Borderline close pass into oncoming traffic, completely pointless as the lights are red and you can see the "Bus Stopping" light is illuminated so he knew he was stopping at the next stop plain inconsiderate driving! https://streamable.com/jhiaxx

CramCycle · 12-09-2023 8:40am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121099282#Comment_121099282

Maybe Dublin Cycling has made me harsher or the camera lens is affecting it but it certainly doesn't look terrible to me. Could be better but I wouldn't have even noticed myself.

tnegun · 12-09-2023 8:53am

No, you're right I've had plenty worse it was more that he overtook coming to a red light and knew he was stopping at the next stop just past those lights that annoyed me if I hadn't had the camera out to check if I'd missed the left hook guy indicating or not I'd not have given it a second thought!

Ferris · 12-09-2023 9:11am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121099282#Comment_121099282

Noticed this happening to me more and more lately from DB - its very annoying and completely pointless.

lawrencesummers · 12-09-2023 9:22am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121099282#Comment_121099282

Personally i wouldn't have overtaken into the oncoming filterlane, although not indicating the white suv could have turned right to use it.

The last two video ls highlight poor driving no doubt but they are also clear issues of poor road design which put cyclists into additional danger.

Buses on busy roads like that should have dedicated areas to pull into and the cycle lane on the inside in the previous video is just putting to much responsibility on drivers to be perfect when turning and thats never going to happen. An easy solution to a junction like that is using technology like sensors to detect bikes or weighted under tar sensors in the bike lanes to illuminate pedestrian / cyclist crossing lights simultaneously.

Paddigol · 12-09-2023 9:47am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121099870#Comment_121099870

I feel your pain. But part of me also feels that DB drivers are as frustrated and inconvenienced by poorly design cycle lanes as cyclists are. Personally I find them pretty competent most of the time. Taxis, private coach companies and minibus drivers far worse in Dublin city centre/ suburbs in my experience.

Ferris · 12-09-2023 10:36am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121099970#Comment_121099970

Normally I agree - I wouldn't fancy piloting a 20T Dublin Bus in city traffic so I respect them for that. Like everyone however, there's good and bad eggs and its a new repeated behavior on a certain route (H3) in a certain area (Sutton - Howth). To overtake a cyclist when you know you're going to stop within 100m is just plain rude tbh.

Wildly Boaring · 13-09-2023 8:36am

Not a cycling near miss but was in Roundwood on Saturday to do the Lakers 10k run.

Sun was shining and plenty rentals and GoCars about. Pretty obvious plenty others about who don't drive much.

The standard of driving was so bad that it's worrying.

3 times!! Cars drove straight through the pedestrian crossing with pedestrians in the middle of it. One father was so mad (his 2 kids were also crossing) that he took off his shoe and fired it at the merc that should be taken off it's owner.

I also saw the following in my short time

A car drive straight up the wrong side of the road into a blind bend - this was obviously a foreigner that forgot himself and got a serious shock
A car overtaking a bus down through the speed ramps on the way into Roundwood
A bus driving far too fast through the village with his wheel over the white line, basically bulling everyone else off the road
Several dodgy overtakings of cyclists (of course)
A woman parking a VW Eos who frankly couldn't drive. As her friend "directed" her, she hit the car in front once and the car behind twice, that I saw. I then went over to see if she wanted a hand and was told everything was fine. Went back and left her reg under wiper of car behind, nice bit of bumper rash

Not sure messing with speed limits is going to save us all.....

Hurrache · 13-09-2023 8:54am

There was a GoSafe van parked at the start of Roundwood Saturday morning, just at that row of parking spaces on the left as you come in from the Dublin direction. Not sure if it was just parked or active but some might get something in the post soon enough.

magicbastarder · 13-09-2023 9:00am

i only recently learned that the cameras on go safe vans have a range of approx 60m. explains why so few people get caught on national slow down day, they really only catch the absolute thundering idiots who can't see the vans.

Paddigol · 13-09-2023 10:38am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121103732#Comment_121103732

Really??? That's shocking. I'm surprised they catch anyone at all so. They had one of those vans on the coast road from Rathnew to Kilcoole at the weekend. Naturally the only two cars I passed within 3km of it flashed me to warn me. And this is on one of those windy 80kmph minor roads that most of our fatalities seem to occur on. Cos you wouldn't want the poor drivers doing 90kmph caught, would you?

magicbastarder · 13-09-2023 10:49am

it came up on a thread from 2016:

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2057633648/speed-van-questions-distance

edit: there was some confusion in another thread, as there were claims they have a range of over 1km. the handheld laser assisted cameras the gardai can use have that range, as they can track the car from that distance away, as it's aimed by a human i guess.

magicbastarder · 13-09-2023 10:50am

there was a recent thread about the proposed speed limit reduction (in motors or infrastructure) and one of the posters there said he/she regularly passes a point which is a favoured go-safe van location. and that they flash oncoming motorists, but only if the van is not there.

give that person a medal.

sheriff2 · 13-09-2023 12:17pm

Started back cycling in and out of work. It amazes me the amount of cyclists on the N4 main road rather than using the bike lane. Then rather than using the fly over bridge over the M50 lads are staying on the main road into Palmerstown, its absolute madness, one clip and your gone. Going over the bridge would add about 3 minutes to your journey plus your into Palmerstown with hardly a car on the road.

If your one of these madmen on the N4 dicing with traffic into Palmerstown - Why do you do it....

surely the risk far outweigh the reward.

magicbastarder · 13-09-2023 12:59pm

Jeremy Vine nearly came a proper cropper this morning

https://twitter.com/theJeremyVine/status/1701912943611306142

Wildly Boaring · 13-09-2023 12:59pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121104533#Comment_121104533

I'm going to take a wild guess.

The bike lane is either shite or covered in shrapnel

Smee_Again · 13-09-2023 1:02pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121104708#Comment_121104708

You forgot option 3. It's both.

DaveyDave · 13-09-2023 1:22pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121104708#Comment_121104708

It's not actually. The bike lane is fine there, I've used it for 12 years now. Yeah you have to slow down for the bridge section to get into the Palmerstown side but it's not a huge deal, then you have very little traffic all the way to the slip road at Chapelizod, you can either take the bus lane on the N4 from there into the city or drop into Chapelizod and take the admittedly crappy bike lane past Phoenix Park.

Absolutely no chance I'm risking myself with the M50 slip/flyover bridge/M50-N4 slip at rush hour.

hans aus dtschl · 13-09-2023 1:23pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121104533#Comment_121104533

I don't use this road. I don't know anything about the area, but I just looked on google maps at that "bike lane" and can immediately guess why people wouldn't want to use it. It's somewhere between a joke and a deathtrap by the looks of it.

hans aus dtschl · 13-09-2023 1:30pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121104807#Comment_121104807

Whatever about the bridge (I think the cycle bridge and detour here looks reasonably OK) the unsignalised slip road crossings and yielding to private entrances West of that are really poor

Edit: how do you even get to the cycle bridge from the N4? It looks like you'd need to cycle on a footpath or mount a kerb.

CoffeeImpala · 13-09-2023 1:33pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121104810#Comment_121104810

If you're using the cycle/pedestrian bridge over the M50 correctly you cycle on just under 3 km of former national road which is almost entirely empty of cars.

I'm not sure how that could be described as a death trap for cyclists.

DaveyDave · 13-09-2023 1:36pm

Are we talking about the same side here? The inbound side of the N4 heading into the city centre. It's an absolute death wish on that road. I'm all for using the road if bike lanes are inconvenient, slow you down or are dangerous but this is one of those sections I'll detour onto the bike lane for safety and in a rare instance the bike lane there is actually grand by cycling standards.

The outbound one is messy though with all the junction crossings, poor surface or traffic not yielding. There's a monster pothole in the bike lane at the Texaco junction that will shatter your wrist if you don't see it, it's invisible in the rain!

hans aus dtschl · 13-09-2023 1:38pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121104831#Comment_121104831

I appreciate your patience: I'm not familiar with the area.

How do you go from West of the M50 to East of it? For instance, starting at Woodies in Lucan. It looks (from the map) like you simply must be on the N4, crossing a number of sliproads at unsignalised locations. Maybe I'm not seeing an alternate route?

CoffeeImpala · 13-09-2023 1:43pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121104847#Comment_121104847

The inbound side of the road is a two way cycle lane where appropriate between the West County and Liffey Valley.

Most people continue on to Woodies. Given the yield signs in both directions it could be argued this section is also two way.

hans aus dtschl · 13-09-2023 1:49pm

Apologies all, I see that route by the Hospital on the old road: makes a lot more sense now!

I was looking at that wide bit of path beside the bus lane and trying to figure out how people were using it safely: answer is "they don't use it at all". You're bypassing the slip ramps by taking the exit.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121104831#Comment_121104831

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121104863#Comment_121104863

VonLuck · 13-09-2023 1:56pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121104706#Comment_121104706

Good god. Reading the comments on Twitter would make your head explode. It's clear that there is zero sympathy out there for any cyclists. People even suggesting that the cyclist was in the wrong because the van made a mistake and he should have helped him!

Goes to show that you can't win over the majority of motorists and they will always blame the cyclist.

magicbastarder · 13-09-2023 2:12pm

there are lots of comments about him breaking a red, which is clearly for traffic coming from the right, and does not apply to him.

just in case anyone didn't watch the video, a van reversed when he was directly behind it and seems to have driven over his bike.

CramCycle · 13-09-2023 2:33pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121104533#Comment_121104533

I've done it a few times without issue, bike lane looks like it would add a lot more than 3 minutes. Last time I went over the N3 one I had lads videoing me while driving, even though I was keeping up with traffic, beeping at the danger I was causing and so on. The irony was lost on them.

CramCycle · 13-09-2023 4:12pm

Coming through a roundabout this morning, car from my right was slowing but not enough, I left off the gas just in case. They ploughed on through, only slowing enough to make the turn. As I stopped, I could see a father (driving), looking at and tickling their baby, while Mamai was throwing the baby in the air as a game. My brain couldn't quite compute the multiple levels of stupidity going on.

Schorpio · 13-09-2023 4:14pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121105098#Comment_121105098

The thrust of the comments is - ah, the poor van driver made a simple mistake, and Jeremy was the one who put everyone in danger because he cycled behind the van which was obviosuly going to reverse to correct his mistake.

This is despite the fact that the van turned right (where there was no right turn), and then began to drive down the right-hand side of the road (i.e. the wrong side of the road) before reversing blindly.

Twitter really is awful.

Trekker09 · 13-09-2023 11:20pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121100014#Comment_121100014

Thought so. That's near where I live.

CramCycle · 14-09-2023 11:06pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121110125#Comment_121110125

Can't see chippers post now but when I said right, I actually meant left. I was on the roundabout and they were coming in from my left. Sorry for my left/right issues

magicbastarder · 14-09-2023 11:10pm

Chipper Chips i think was the latest incarnation of a serial re-reg.

magicbastarder · 15-09-2023 12:20pm

taking the right from this approach?

https://www.google.com/maps/@53.343355,-6.2907878,3a,75y,278.73h,81.41t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sZP30khubgVezmzl2xh2nsg!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DZP30khubgVezmzl2xh2nsg%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D272.85016%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu

average_runner · 15-09-2023 2:07pm

Two cyclists(different times) hit the ground when taking a corner today when I was driving to the in laws. So be careful out there in the weather, roads still lacking grip

AndrewJRenko · 15-09-2023 2:12pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121112837#Comment_121112837

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121113460#Comment_121113460

The Luas tracks make it one to avoid for me. Try going down Bridge St instead. You have a dedicated cycle lane for most of the south Quays. Leave the segregated lane at the last bus stop and cross three lanes to turn over the bridge.

magicbastarder · 15-09-2023 5:24pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121104706#Comment_121104706

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-pV4u4zBA0

blackbelt barrister has a look at this and it's a good enough summary.

Utter Consternation · 19-09-2023 9:12am

Wasp got stuck in my helmet band this morning. Got the little bastard out before he stung. Lost an earphone though.

Little pricks.

Ferris · 19-09-2023 11:52am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121128677#Comment_121128677

Poor form to generalise and blame all wasps based on the actions of one bad apple (Its not like they're taxi drivers or anything😉).

19-09-2023 9:48pm

This one is up before the courts

https://twitter.com/nolankucd/status/1704050516655824912

19-09-2023 9:55pm

Another one just finished in the courts

https://twitter.com/CycleGort/status/1704202400557359189

The write up is worth a read

tldr: driver was convicted of dangerous driving and had his suspended license for 4 years. Driver has already appealed

tnegun · 19-09-2023 10:12pm

One from yesterday I looked over my shoulder and the car was a reasonable distance back and not traveling too fast so I held out my arm just after the start of the first right turn junction and began to move towards the center and right lane. Not to be inconvenienced this driver who was eating and on the phone proceeded to pass anyway I guess they didn't have enough hands free to indicate or slow down! https://streamable.com/t9z0lp

Hurrache · 20-09-2023 1:47pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121133518#Comment_121133518

I had a pre-covid case in which the initial garda I dealt with commenced the case as dangerous driving and brought it to his super. Got a call some time later from him saying it was reduced to careless driving for the simple reason dangerous driving is much harder to get a conviction for as you say.