Near Misses Volume 2 (So close you can feel it)

blackwhite

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121381456#Comment_121381456

There’s hours upon hours of footage online of him cycling with that cat, and nothing in any of it to suggest that him carrying a cat has caused any more hinderance or danger to his cycling than carrying a backpack in a front basket would.

The animal being there had zero impact on the moped rider deciding to make a dangerous close overtake whilst going around a corner, and the animal being there or not made no difference on the cyclist being hit by the moped rider

CramCycle

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121382391#Comment_121382391

They were turning as they do later when it's all over but again, it's irrelevant, the overtake was silliness. It wasn't out of badness though, just stupidity, he has probably done it 1000 times without issue.

monkeyslayer

Got rear ended in blessington just on the naas road roundabout. I was in the roundabout, car came on behind me, accelerated right through the back of me, took a 5m trip on the hood then got pushed along the ground for another bit. Back is in a hoop this eve, hopefully just bruised and twisted. My cervelo is OK i think tho id need to wash it to inspect it properly, destroyed the bar tape and skewer on the left but seems to have been pushed more than slammed. Castelli winter bib shorts, glove and my rapha gortex jacket are destroyed. Guy said "(he) just wasn't looking". I'd lights on and an orange jacket, it was midday.

Not sure if wanna keep cycling as i sit here this evening thinking im so lucky that wasnt so much worse, fed up with sh*t drivers. I broke my neck, shoulder and chest in 2014 by another inattentive driver. These days every spin seems to have a near miss. Been cycling most of my 42 years and honestly feel the roads have never been more dangerous.

magicbastarder

jesus. glad you seem OK.

CramCycle

****, probably preaching to the choir but make sure you get checked out. If you start having issues down the road, no point asking for help then.

Also f*ck me, not sure if I'm more or less annoyed that he admitted to not looking.

monkeyslayer

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121385846#Comment_121385846

They were actually really nice, but it was astonishing, i was like "how could you not see me, I was right in front of you, flashing red lights, good lights too, where we u looking??" Fully reported to the gardai etc so hopefully I can at least get my nice bibs and rapha jacket replaced. Yea true re getting it checked out might drop into one of the vhi clinics tomorrow and get it recorded at least. I'd imagine it's just gonna be a diphene subscription. Its quite sore now, getting out of bed tomorrow is gonna be interesting..

CramCycle

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121386455#Comment_121386455

I regrettably learned the hard way that not getting it checked out AsAP can be a bad thing. You are probably fine bar a few days/weeks of discomfort but better it's confirmed and if further remedy is actioned, start straight away

standardg60

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/courtandcrime/arid-41268982.html

Back in the news this week with more details.

Sentencing on Friday which should be interesting to say the least.

mvt

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121386455#Comment_121386455

Had a similar incident on a roundabout myself & just wanted to say I went directly to the motorists insurance company & received the compensation I felt was adequate for the incident without any hassle.

I only suffered some road rash & was off work for a couple of days ,bike was ok but got it checked.

Hope you are feeling ok, I found taking matters into my own hands a great help in dealing with the trauma of the incident.

AndrewJRenko

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121385471#Comment_121385471

Ah here, you're supposed to give us some small, irrelevant detail that we can all zone in on and nitpick over to prove that it was all your fault in the first place.

With roundabouts, the most likely scenario is that the driver was looking to their right for approaching traffic while driving towards the roundabout.

magicbastarder

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121389040#Comment_121389040

to echo this, let alone getting checked out medically, i'd have the frame x-rayed. the motorist's insurance company won't blink, it's probably a tenth the cost of replacing a bumper after a minor fender bender (assuming the frame is OK)

Large bottle small glass

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121386455#Comment_121386455

Whatever is damaged from accident get it replaced.

I'd include bike in that to. If you were to honestly sell your bike the day before accident and the day after there would be a significant difference in value; the doubt over the structural integrity of frameset will significantly effect value.

Why should you suffer that loss?

If the insurance company stall tell them you'll keep old bike once they provide the non destructive testing that validates and certifies the integrity of frameset. The person smart enough to do the testing will be smart enough not to certify it.

BoardsMember

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121389180#Comment_121389180

Ah will you stop, slap on the wrist for drunk driving, hit and run, and those injuries....no chance just a slap on the wrist whatever the details of the victim.

monkeyslayer

Thanks all for comments, a lot sorer today, leg and arm a bit strained too. Vhi clinic had a good look at the back and it seems just badly sprained. Had to get a tetanus for the road rash. I'm OK tho, really just feel like I've been rugby tackled, by a car. Gardai took a full statement from me and progressing it onwards with driver and the witness. I'll wash the bike soon enough and look at it, it was a wet dirty day and its covered in road muck. Guess I'll just wait for investigation to be done and proceed then with the garda reports.

Re the accident itself, I have no idea how he could have missed me, his passenger saw me, who drives onto a large roundabout like that and doesn't look. He was day dreaming. He was more shocked than I was, he made no excuses.

standardg60

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121389594#Comment_121389594

Bound to feel worse the day after, take your time with assessing injuries and damages as insurance aren't going to blink about paying out here, hope you regain your confidence again though which is the main thing.

Will be interesting to follow in terms of any charges brought.

monkeyslayer

Yea will see how it goes, I'm just incredibly grateful for no broken bones or head injury. I don't doubt the sincerity in the mans apology but it astonishes me that it even happened. Its a car he's driving, not a shopping trolley, he has to be looking at the road.

AndrewJRenko

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121389180#Comment_121389180

I hate to say it, but if it hadn't been a Garda on the bike, I fear that it is unlikely it would have been investigated with the same vigour, including getting CCTV footage from the pub showing her big sesh there for the afternoon.

munsterfan2

If it's carbon get the bike replaced, you'll never be happy cycling downhill at 50 / 60kmh on the frame. Friend and myself got sideswipped on the N2 about 2 years ago, driver ran the stop sign, didnt see us. Felt I was OK, and he paid for the bike replacement within a week so we didnt follow up. Not sure that was the right thing to do, shoulder still gives me a bit of bother when swimming

VonLuck

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121381523#Comment_121381523

The cyclist took a very strong right turn! If that was a wobble as some are claiming, then that's even more reason to look over your shoulder before taking off. If I was that uneasy on a bicycle I'd like to be sure that I'm, not going to swing out in front of someone else, even if that person is in the wrong.

Victim blaming is where the person is at fault of the incident. People can take measures to protect themselves and still not be at fault. This is why we have helmets, lights and hi-vis clothing.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121381483#Comment_121381483

Not reading my posts clearly! I didn't say it had an impact on the incident. It was a side note. People have had dogs who have never bitten anyone until that one day when it happens!

Paddigol

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121395448#Comment_121395448

Victim blaming has nothing to do with fault. The opposite in fact - it's where fault is implied even though none exists. Even going beyond that, fault and causation are two completely different concepts.

The fault here is with the dangerous road user - that's not the cyclist, it's the motorist who decided to overtake with a close pass into a junction. Mention of no helmet, no hi viz, no lights, no bell, no reflectors etc. etc. etc. is irrelevant to the actual incident. It's like saying you should have signalled 10 metres earlier. No, 15 metres earlier. No, 25 metres earlier. No, you should have kept your arm out indicating as soon as you approached the junction, the entire time you were waiting at the junction and until you had completed the turn. And you should have been constantly looking around. And ringing your bell.

In other words, what he could have done is purely subjective and referring to it, where he actually did nothing wrong, is the perfect example of victim blaming.

He was the front-most road user at the junction. All traffic behind him should have waited until it was safe to pass him. The onus is on them - as it would have been if he was a car or motorbike - to judge the situation in front of them and act accordingly... not chance their arm and plough past through a small gap.

As for the cat point... that's just nanny state mentality - something bad could happen therefore it should be banned. In this case, the cat demonstrated more self control and discipline than the motorist. If we demanded that road users actually take more personal responsibility for their behaviour instead of relying on the lack of enforcement and the constant need to try and shift blame, the roads would be a much safer place. I know I'd prefer to share it with people like that cyclist, who has the ability to train an animal to behave that well in traffic, rather than people like that motorist who clearly have so little regard for anyone else's safety because they're in such a rush.

CramCycle

Got a SMIDSY this morning, pulled out in front of me at a roundabout. Pulled up further to apologise that he didn't see me so at least he was civil.

CramCycle

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121396628#Comment_121396628

It's so weird, shouldn't have let it slide but he seemed genuinely sorry. Other than I let a roar and am always ready to haul my brakes in South Dublin during rush hour I'd have been hit. Lots of kids coming the other way on bikes. For anyone who has ever seen me in real life, I am far from . invisible.

standardg60

Yep always ready to drop anchor in those situations until I make eye contact with the driver, people get used to just glancing to the right on approach and if there isn't a vehicle then they're clear to go, you could just happen to be behind the a pillar at the time too.

On the plus side it's a lesson learned for them to look properly next time.

magicbastarder

I once scared the living **** out of a cyclist (I was driving) as I entered a roundabout and I *think* he was mostly hidden behind the A pillar of the car at the point I should have seen him. Wouldn't like to think I'm making excuses for myself though.

Pinch Flat

Turning right at the last roundabout into my estate this evening. Car coming straight down, I'm indicating right. Well lit up, helmet, high vis and I even pay "road tax". Guy in bmw stops but leans on horn, stops car for afters through a rolled down window as i pass. What makes people so angry whwn they're driving

tnegun

I had some amount of close passes this evening I think they were punishment passes as I was well out due to leaves and crap on the road, most were on unlit roads so the camera doesn't show them well. I'd the usual crap moving right at this junction it doesn't matter how long I hold my arm out traffic just pushes past here in an attempt to beat the lights and as can be seen in the video it's often pointless!

Schorpio

https://streamable.com/3h845n

One of the worst 'must get in front' incidents in a while.

This car decided it would be worth overtaking me, into the path of an oncoming car, just to catch the visible line of stationary cars.

AndrewJRenko

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121399910#Comment_121399910

It's worth marking such occasions by stopping in front of them and giving them a slow handclap.

AndrewJRenko

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121399910#Comment_121399910

Could have been worse

https://x.com/Cycliq/status/1727327764120748396?s=20

Be right back

https://t.co/7CRH2qoIMX.

Be right back

^^ Is it just me or is that unsafe cycling? Yes, the lorry should have waited but...

Schorpio

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121400498#Comment_121400498

Wow. That is shocking.

Allinall

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121400567#Comment_121400567

I'd call it suicidal.

beggars_bush

Shout out to the wa****r in the white van who decided to cut the corner at a rural junction this morning at 6:35am and nearly wipe me out of it.

It was going to be head on, I swerved, I took the wing mirror in the forearm managed to stay on the bike. Cnut didn't even stop.

Be right back

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121400670#Comment_121400670

If you know the road there are two exits for Carrigaline where I guess he wanted to go.. If he had stayed behind the lorry he would have still have made the turn. I thought it was crazy to be cycling where he was.

Paddigol

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121399230#Comment_121399230

Same. Almost every driver has had one of those incidents, it just seems that a hell of a lot of drivers don't take any message/ lesson away from the experience, certainly judging by the reactions when they're pulled up on it. Like Cram, if someone seems genuinely remorseful/ apologetic I'm happy to let things pass without lecturing/ confrontation etc as we've all been there. But so many people just act as though it's ultimately your fault for existing in their space.

Weepsie

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121400549#Comment_121400549

Sorry, that's another incidences of him looking for something for me. Its shite cycling by him. He has form for it. He gets loads of dangerous passes but he's definitely guilty of absolutely putting himself in positions where he thinks he should be given priority when he absolutely has none

Be right back

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121400884#Comment_121400884

I totally agree. What was he thinking? Putting himself in that position.

Schorpio

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121400884#Comment_121400884

I agree - right or wrong, he was insane to put himself in that position.

There is something to be said about the truck driver too. He should have just left the space for the cyclist to cut back in. Even if you disagree with the actions of a cyclist, the driver shouldn't put his vehicle in a position that makes a bad situation worse. Any deviation or wobble, and the cyclist could be under the truck's wheels.

Poor cycling and poor driving, imo.

tnegun

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121400549#Comment_121400549

There is no way that could be considered safe cycling he's lucky he didn't end up under the wheel of the truck you simply do not deliberately put yourself in a place with no escape plus regardless of whether or not they should have seen and been aware him I bet the truck and car driver did not know he was there until very late any change in road position by either of them could have been fatal, neither and I wouldn't either, expect a cyclist to be splitting the lane like that on my outside!

CramCycle

Cyclist overtook with oncoming traffic, it was beyond stupid. The driving is poor but 100%, everything that happened there is the cyclists fault. It just beggars belief. It's no different than the small mickey stuff you see when someone gets overtaken on the motorway and they make a point of getting that overtake back when there simply was no rhyme or reason for it.

Be right back

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121401796#Comment_121401796

There's no logic to why he put himself in that dangerous position.. Beyond stupid.

Weepsie

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121401846#Comment_121401846

He's a self entitled arsehole.

Boo mod warning to myself

But that's very much my opinion. I genuinely think he does more harm for cyclists than anything and some of the stuff he voluntarily shows makes me go wow, he has absolutely no sense of self awareness.

He's a very good bike handler going by some.of his videos but roadcraft and common sense are bereft in many of his videos. I'd dread to think of what he chooses not to show

Be right back

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121401886#Comment_121401886

I think he was pissed that the lorry passed him out and was determined to pass him back out. Some of his responses on twitter..🫣

TheChizler

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121401886#Comment_121401886

I've seen him a few times around Cork while I've been cycling or driving, it's very strange. He does repeated loops of the streets where he tends to experience incidents, in traffic loiters very close to the drivers side of cars peering into the window as if he's looking for something to take issue with. Clearly that antagonises some drivers.

Mr. Cats

In Every….One…Of…His….Videos…it begins with him taking the lane to try to prevent any overtaking. It gives the strong impression that he rides in that position at all times. Whilst every cyclist can agree that it’s necessary to take the lane at times, it’s not appropriate to do it all of the time.

Clearly drivers behind him get frustrated at his antics, this leads to very poor driving, and he “wins” more clicks for his videos, which seem to be the aim of the whole thing.

Totally agree that his contribution is not a positive for the advancement of cycling.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121403158#Comment_121403158

Have to disagree with you on taking the lane. After 2 very, VERY close calls within a few minutes of each other, I now only ever place myself bang in the middle of the lane.

Regardless of the location or road type, makes zero difference, I'm in the middle of the lane

Previously I would have had multiple close passes a day which are now at the level of less than 1 a month.

Far safer way to travel.

Do I get beeped, sure, do I care, not a jot

CramCycle

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121403260#Comment_121403260

Your doing it for safety, he is doing it for clicks. There is a difference, and he does pull in, but from what I see, only to get annoyed that he has been cut off. Personally, it depends on the road and situation for me. In the town/city, it's almost always take the lane. On the N25 with a decent quality hard shoulder, I don't have to but I will stay in the hard shoulder, only come out of it to overtake tractors/pedestrians, or coming upto a junction. If I indicated to come out, some will pull out to allow, some will slow to allow, some won't but it's rare to get boxed in for more than a few seconds. It is so incredibly rare to get the interactions that he does with lorries and I meet loads every day. There is a truck stop for overnights beside my house, down rural back roads, never have any of them had an issue waiting behind while I'm on my commute. I get more trouble from inattentive school runs in D4 in one morning than I get in a year of out of town cycling. Everyone's mileage will vary but he could make his life easier, but it wouldn't make for good footage. Alot of times he is 100% right, but unfortunately, alot of other times the situation is entirely of his own making. Like anywhere though, there is enough people ready to rise to it. In no way am I excusing the drivers he interacts with either, often completely ignorant and not the way I would drive, and shows that it is completely possible for both parties to be 100% in the wrong and both think they are 100% in the right.

Schorpio

https://streamable.com/33vetg

'Buzzed' again this morning by a van driver who got on their horn as they passed. (Apologies for the language, but it really made me jump).

To matters worse, it's a dual carriageway with nothing at all in the right-hand lane. They could have safely passed with ease.

As per usual, they make no progress either - racing up to the red light where I catch up anyway. I could have passed them again, but it wasn't worth it.

average_runner

Not a near miss, but a cyclist knocked down two runners tonight outside our estate. Two ambulances brought runners to hospital.

Please be careful out there.