Mayo GAA Discussion - Part 4

naughto

irishgeo wrote: »

Just sunderland till I die on Netflix. Basically a documentary following the fans and staff around as they as the go through the highs and lows of the season.

The passion of the fans reminded me of the mayo fans.

Mayo would make a great team to follow but it wont happen for many reasons but it would be an interesting thought.

Watched it the last night when Sunderland best midfielder player is/was a serious piss head it says it all really.your man on 60k a week never played

blinding

naughto wrote: »

Watched it the last night when Sunderland best midfielder player is/was a serious piss head it says it all really.your man on 60k a week never played

At least he was spending in the local economy

km79

When sporting activity recommences, the GAA will accommodate both club and county games. The Association also intends to complete the Allianz Leagues, or at least those games that have a bearing on next year's divisions, where possible.

Feck !!!!

Peanut Butter Jelly

km79 wrote: »

When sporting activity recommences, the GAA will accommodate both club and county games. The Association also intends to complete the Allianz Leagues, or at least those games that have a bearing on next year's divisions, where possible.

Feck !!!!

If it's August or after when the games resume, I doubt the leagues will be finished. I have a funny feeling they are saying that at the moment to avoid deciding how league tables would be constructed if the leagues were to be stopped today (as in, would they be declared null and start next year with the same leagues, or take current positions as final).

As well as this, if it comes down to finishing the league or rushing an All Ireland series where they can fill Croke Park for a few games, money will decide.

muddle84

Yeah i would say that's all wishful thinking unless they play them out behind closed doors.

PressRun

All indications seem to be that social distancing will be kept in place even after the lockdown is lifted, so I don't see there being any large crowds being allowed to attend games for the foreseeable. I don't think we'll be seeing much, if any, GAA this year tbh, unless a vaccine for this thing miraculously appears in the next month or two.

Higgins5473

muddle84 wrote: »

Yeah i would say that's all wishful thinking unless they play them out behind closed doors.

Is closed doors an option for any contact sport? I don't see how any governing body of any sport could give the go ahead if 'social distancing' directives are still in place by government. It would be in direct contravention to what the public are being told to do, why would it be any different for athletes in any contact sport.

Squatman

Higgins5473 wrote: »

Is closed doors an option for any contact sport? I don't see how any governing body of any sport could give the go ahead if 'social distancing' directives are still in place by government. It would be in direct contravention to what the public are being told to do, why would it be any different for athletes in any contact sport.

no, closed doors is a dead duck. it will be 2021 before we see sport back. have to make do with re-runs IMO

blinding

Squatman wrote: »

no, closed doors is a dead duck. it will be 2021 before we see sport back. have to make do with re-runs IMO

We might win the 1996 one this time;);)

Higgins5473

Squatman wrote: »

no, closed doors is a dead duck. it will be 2021 before we see sport back. have to make do with re-runs IMO

That's what I would have thought also but the behind closed doors talk seems relentless.

seligehgit

Mass gatherings of over 5,000 people prohibited until the end August.

TBH I think they should pull the plug on this year's championship on the basis of a public health requirement.

Green&Red

seligehgit wrote: »

Mass gatherings of over 5,000 people prohibited until the end August.

TBH I think they should pull the plug on this year's championship on the basis of a public health requirement.

And the league, don't forget to pull the plug on the league

km79

I have a horrible feeling they will end up just playing off the league in late autumn

Loafing Oaf

km79 wrote: »

I have a horrible feeling they will end up just playing off the league in late autumn

Or a standalone super 8 based involving the division 1 teams:P

seligehgit

Loafing Oaf wrote: »

Or a standalone super 8 based involving the division 1 teams:P

Sounds good.:D

seligehgit

km79 wrote: »

I have a horrible feeling they will end up just playing off the league in late autumn

Don't even think about it!

charlie14

seligehgit wrote: »

Don't even think about it!

If there is going to be any inter county football this year I`m afraid I cannot see anything other than finishing out the leagues and the U20 championship.
Even at that spectator numbers would be limited or even games played behind closed doors.

PressRun

km79 wrote: »

I have a horrible feeling they will end up just playing off the league in late autumn

Don't even see this happening.


Whenever restrictions are eased, public gatherings like sporting events and music festivals and the like will be the last to come back. Don't see how they would do this within the year.

mayo.mick

If they limit large gatherings like they are saying, licenced events up to 5K, they could probably play out the league before the end of the year.

Loafing Oaf

mayo.mick wrote: »

If they limit large gatherings like they are saying, licenced events up to 5K, they could probably play out the league before the end of the year.

And then crack straight on with the 2021 league a couple of months later...

muddle84

mayo.mick wrote: »

If they limit large gatherings like they are saying, licenced events up to 5K, they could probably play out the league before the end of the year.

Limit the attendance to 5k?

muddle84

Did we have to beat both Galway and Tyrone to stay up?

mayo.mick

muddle84 wrote: »

Limit the attendance to 5k?

Health Authority will licence events with maximum of 5K in attendance. If they want to finish out the league, all other things being allowed, the games will be limited to 5000 tickets, that's IF they want supporters in attendance.

BandMember

I think it's fair to say that we can forget about any intercounty action for 2020 and will be doing well to see it back in time for the start of the League next year, especially if they still haven't found a vaccine. You can't expect the players, management, ground staff etc. and their families to take the risk of being exposed to the virus - not to mention that the experts are expecting a second wave in the autumn which could possibly be even worse than this one.

Even if you leave that aside, there's the issue of whether to play the games either behind closed doors or with limited attendance. Behind closed doors doesn't seem to be a runner with either the players (still exposed to the same risks as above, no atmosphere etc.) or the G.A.A. (as they'd lose a fortune on holding the games without any gate receipts to cover the costs). Plus, if you have to limit the crowd to 5K, how are you going to do that??? Sure Mayo have nearly 5K Season Ticket holders so wouldn't be able to accommodate them alone! Same for Dublin. How would you decide which supporters get tickets and who doesn't? What about club allocations? The whole thing would be a mess!

I'd imagine that their broadcasting contracts with both television and radio are the only reason why they haven't officially announced that there will be no games for the remainder for 2020 yet as they will be trying to figure out how much having no more games will cost them financially and what sort of agreement they can come to the broadcasters. However, on the flip side, you could imagine that the broadcasters would be desperate for some games to show.... (Just to be clear, I'm not saying that the broadcasters will be pressuring them into holding games just so that they can fill their schedules!! It's merely an observation as both broadcasters know exactly how serious the situation is)

Coillte_Bhoy

seligehgit wrote: »

Mass gatherings of over 5,000 people prohibited until the end August.

TBH I think they should pull the plug on this year's championship on the basis of a public health requirement.

And that will be extnded well beyond August

seligehgit

BandMember wrote: »

I think it's fair to say that we can forget about any intercounty action for 2020 and will be doing well to see it back in time for the start of the League next year, especially if they still haven't found a vaccine. You can't expect the players, management, ground staff etc. and their families to take the risk of being exposed to the virus - not to mention that the experts are expecting a second wave in the autumn which could possibly be even worse than this one.

Even if you leave that aside, there's the issue of whether to play the games either behind closed doors or with limited attendance. Behind closed doors doesn't seem to be a runner with either the players (still exposed to the same risks as above, no atmosphere etc.) or the G.A.A. (as they'd lose a fortune on holding the games without any gate receipts to cover the costs). Plus, if you have to limit the crowd to 5K, how are you going to do that??? Sure Mayo have nearly 5K Season Ticket holders so wouldn't be able to accommodate them alone! Same for Dublin. How would you decide which supporters get tickets and who doesn't? What about club allocations? The whole thing would be a mess!

I'd imagine that their broadcasting contracts with both television and radio are the only reason why they haven't officially announced that there will be no games for the remainder for 2020 yet as they will be trying to figure out how much having no more games will cost them financially and what sort of agreement they can come to the broadcasters. However, on the flip side, you could imagine that the broadcasters would be desperate for some games to show.... (Just to be clear, I'm not saying that the broadcasters will be pressuring them into holding games just so that they can fill their schedules!! It's merely an observation as both broadcasters know exactly how serious the situation is)

Indeed and I know there are probably external pressures on the GAA to not definitively rule out a championship this year but is all this indecision really necessary?These pressures do not suffice IMO,the great and good should make a call.Take the financial hit this year,write it off.

TBH the layman on the street can see the direction this likely medium term to god knows when public health crisis are pointing.

An ultra cautious approach should be taken for the country's good and as much as we love our gaelic games I am the first to admit same is non essential.

The whole idea of holding championships this year does not sit easy with me.

We'll be proverbially chomping at the bit come next year.

As we all dream on as usual I'd hate for Aidan O Shea to lift Sam and not be one of the chosen few with an arbitrarily selected golden tickets.

TBH I could'nt see a lot of joy around the holding of All Ireland championships this year and most certainly not in the heart of the winter in half empty stadia where social distancing might be nigh impossible to police and no atmosphere,that's without considering the health and well being of our players.

TCDStudent1

seligehgit wrote: »

Indeed and I know there are probably external pressures on the GAA to not definitively rule out a championship this year but is all this indecision really necessary?These pressures do not suffice IMO,the great and good should make a call.Take the financial hit this year,write it off.

TBH the layman on the street can see the direction this likely medium term to god knows when public health crisis are pointing.

An ultra cautious approach should be taken for the country's good and as much as we love our gaelic games I am the first to admit same is non essential.

The whole idea of holding championships this year does not sit easy with me.

We'll be proverbially chomping at the bit come next year.

As we all dream on as usual I'd hate for Aidan O Shea to lift Sam and not be one of the chosen few with an arbitrarily selected golden tickets.

TBH I could'nt see a lot of joy around the holding of All Ireland championships this year and most certainly not in the heart of the winter in half empty stadia where social distancing might be nigh impossible to police and no atmosphere,that's without considering the health and well being of our players.

While I agree with a lot of your points, I am going to disagree on one. If the numbers dropped to sustainable levels over the summer and the government give the ok for big events from September onwards, I would absolutely love to see what a championship between September - November looked like. Have championship games under floodlights. I think there would be a fantastic atmosphere around it (maybe even more so given that there would have been so little activity over summer).

charlie14

TCDStudent1 wrote: »

While I agree with a lot of your points, I am going to disagree on one. If the numbers dropped to sustainable levels over the summer and the government give the ok for big events from September onwards, I would absolutely love to see what a championship between September - November looked like. Have championship games under floodlights. I think there would be a fantastic atmosphere around it (maybe even more so given that there would have been so little activity over summer).

The problem I would see with such big events, is that with the numbers attending, as testing now stands, with people returning to their own areas all over the country numbers could quickly get back to unsustainable levels and we would be back to where we started.


Smaller numbers using social contact guidelines that would enable contact tracing would minimise that possibility but for big events with large numbers it just would not work for the foreseeable future I`m afraid.

TCDStudent1

charlie14 wrote: »

The problem I would see with such big events, is that with the numbers attending, as testing now stands, with people returning to their own areas all over the country numbers could quickly get back to unsustainable levels and we would be back to where we started.


Smaller numbers using social contact guidelines that would enable contact tracing would minimise that possibility but for big events with large numbers it just would not work for the foreseeable future I`m afraid.

oh yeah, I know. My hope is that circumstances may have changed by September to allow them occur.

seligehgit

Nice interview with Jason Doherty post his recovery from that cruciate ligament injury he suffered in the Donegal match.

https://themayonews.podomatic.com/enclosure/2020-04-29T10_42_04-07_00.mp3

km79

seligehgit wrote: »

Nice interview with Jason Doherty post his recovery from that cruciate ligament injury he suffered in the Donegal match.

https://themayonews.podomatic.com/enclosure/2020-04-29T10_42_04-07_00.mp3

First one I listened to in ages and glad I did
He is one of my fav players of this generation
So important and so underrated

seligehgit

Aidan O Shea is on the Late Late Show tonight.

seligehgit

The Mayo News should be well worth a look at next week as the top 100 club footballers from the senior,intermediate and junior ranks are named.

The rankings will be based on form in recent years,stating the obvious.

seligehgit

Tim O Leary is back tweeting.

https://twitter.com/TimOlea48502975/status/1257016381628915712?s=19

charlie14

seligehgit wrote: »

Tim O Leary is back tweeting.

https://twitter.com/TimOlea48502975/status/1257016381628915712?s=19

He still on the beer

Peanut Butter Jelly

As well intentioned as he may be, he had his chance and blew it. I think it would be best for himself if he just stopped publicly making statements about the county board if he wants to work with them. The more he does it the less likely they will be to take him on board

Martina1991

charlie14 wrote:

He still on the beer

Based on his grammar, it looks like it.

muddle84

Peanut Butter Jelly wrote: »

As well intentioned as he may be, he had his chance and blew it. I think it would be best for himself if he just stopped publicly making statements about the county board if he wants to work with them. The more he does it the less likely they will be to take him on board

IMO, that ship has sailed. It doesn't matter what he does now there is no going back for him and the county board.

He doesn't really want to work with the county board either, if he did he wouldn't be tweeting bullsh*t like that.

Audioslaven

muddle84 wrote: »

IMO, that ship has sailed. It doesn't matter what he does now there is no going back for him and the county board.

He doesn't really want to work with the county board either, if he did he wouldn't be tweeting bullsh*t like that.

100% He must have some ego on him. He takes a step forward and then he acts the clown. He would piss off God with his ****.

irishgeo

if he lost his business where he going to get the money baord.

The last thing the county board want is croke park in charge of the finances, as the expenses gravy train might be under threat.

irishgeo

if he lost his business where he going to get the money baord.

The last thing the county board want is croke park in charge of the finances, as the expenses gravy train might be under threat.

seligehgit

seligehgit wrote: »

The Mayo News should be well worth a look at next week as the top 100 club footballers from the senior,intermediate and junior ranks are named.

The rankings will be based on form in recent years,stating the obvious.

I finally got a chance to give the Mayo News a brief glance.

Oisin Mullin topped the rankings for the junior players.

James Carr was voted the second best footballer at the grade.

Based on the article " Mullin unsure about AFL move " Oisin quite rightly would be interested in giving it a go at aussies rules football.

A big worry for Mayo football going forward as he'd be a terrible loss.

muddle84

seligehgit wrote: »

I finally got a chance to give the Mayo News a brief glance.

Oisin Mullin topped the rankings for the junior players.

James Carr was voted the second best footballer at the grade.

Based on the article " Mullin unsure about AFL move " Oisin quite rightly would be interested in giving it a go at aussies rules football.

A big worry for Mayo football going forward as he'd be a terrible loss.

He really has the makings of a once in a generation kind of player the way he has just slotted into the senior county setup. He would be a terrible loss indeed but good luck to the lad. The temptation of a professional sporting career must be tempting!

charlie14

seligehgit wrote: »

I finally got a chance to give the Mayo News a brief glance.

Oisin Mullin topped the rankings for the junior players.

James Carr was voted the second best footballer at the grade.

Based on the article " Mullin unsure about AFL move " Oisin quite rightly would be interested in giving it a go at aussies rules football.

A big worry for Mayo football going forward as he'd be a terrible loss.

Australia will be opening up for sport a fair while before are, so unfortunately he probably will not be the only one. With nothing on here I can see an offer to go there making it extra attractive to young lads.

BandMember

seligehgit wrote: »

The Mayo News should be well worth a look at next week as the top 100 club footballers from the senior,intermediate and junior ranks are named.

The rankings will be based on form in recent years,stating the obvious.

Could anyone post the full list of the top 100 plus the lists for each grade, please?

Bunny Colvin

charlie14 wrote: »

Australia will be opening up for sport a fair while before are, so unfortunately he probably will not be the only one. With nothing on here I can see an offer to go there making it extra attractive to young lads.

Wouldn't be so sure it will play out like that. Clubs in all sports will be minding their pennies for the foreseeable.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/sport/gaa/collingwood-head-coach-predicts-end-to-irish-afl-recruitment-997696.html

charlie14

Bunny Colvin wrote: »

Wouldn't be so sure it will play out like that. Clubs in all sports will be minding their pennies for the foreseeable.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/sport/gaa/collingwood-head-coach-predicts-end-to-irish-afl-recruitment-997696.html

Perhaps, but young rookie would not be on great money I`d imagine, and with nothing happening here for the foreseeable, young lads could be very tempted.

muddle84

charlie14 wrote: »

Perhaps, but young rookie would not be on great money I`d imagine, and with nothing happening here for the foreseeable, young lads could be very tempted.

Don't the Irish lads going out there have a set deal in terms of Salary, accomodation, car and flights home?? I thought i remember something about that because of the work Dara Ó Cinnéide(not sure how to spell his name) had done with the AFL.

charlie14

muddle84 wrote: »

Don't the Irish lads going out there have a set deal in terms of Salary, accomodation, car and flights home?? I thought i remember something about that because of the work Dara Ó Cinnéide(not sure how to spell his name) had done with the AFL.

You got the spelling spot on. Move up to the head of the class.:D There is something in place as far as I remember, but for professional outfits if they think a lad has potential it would likely be worth their while. Young lads playing county and breaking in to the senior starting team would often not give it much thought, especially in the top ranked teams, but with nothing happening here for some time they might be easier tempted is all I`m saying.

Boom__Boom

muddle84 wrote: »

Don't the Irish lads going out there have a set deal in terms of Salary, accomodation, car and flights home?? I thought i remember something about that because of the work Dara Ó Cinnéide(not sure how to spell his name) had done with the AFL.

Yup Standard Rookie Contract.

With the current exchange rate of 1.66 the base salary of AUD for the initial 2 year International Rookie contract would work out at €96,365 or €48,192 per year. Throw in all the other bits and bobs and 2 years of being a professional sportsman, it's a fairly serious offer.

More detail at the link below.

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=111721605&postcount=6034


Also it was more likely Tadgh Kennelly that you're thinking of not Dara O'Cinneide.