Mayo GAA Discussion - Part 4

seligehgit

Mayo face a trip north tomorrow evening when they take on Down in Newry at 7 PM.

Following a defeat to Roscommon last month Mayo manager James Horan makes five changes to this starting team.David Clarke,Colm Boyle and Andy Moran are all named to start as are Conor Loftus and Fionn McDonagh who will be making his championship debut.The players to miss out are Rob Hennelly,Michael Plunkett,Matthew Ruane,Fergal Boland and Evan Regan.

1. David Clarke - Ballina Stephenites
2. Chris Barrett - Belmullet
3. Brendan Harrison - Aghamore
4. Keith Higgins - Ballyhaunis
5. Lee Keegan - Westport
6. Colm Boyle - Davitts
7. Patrick Durcan - Castlebar Mitchels
8. Diarmuid O Connor - Ballintubber(C)
9. Aidan O Shea - Breaffy
10. Fionn McDonagh - Westport
11. Conor Loftus - Crossmolina Deel Rovers
12. Jason Doherty - Burrishoole
13. Kevin McLoughlin - Knockmore
14. Darren Coen -Hollymount/Carramore
15. Andy Moran - Ballaghaderreen

Fr Tod Umptious

Cillian on the bench ?

seligehgit

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

Cillian on the bench ?

Nothing re the bench.

km79

http://twitter.com/RefComeOn/status/1142177018320175106

Looks like James Carr is the latest player to fall foul of Horan

seligehgit

km79 wrote: »

http://twitter.com/RefComeOn/status/1142177018320175106

Looks like James Carr is the latest player to fall foul of Horan

Truly bizarre.

km79

seligehgit wrote: »

Truly bizarre.

No more bizarre than Eoin o Donoghue not getting a sniff
Horan is just a strange individual

Diskin and Reape also played for their clubs
But that's not really a suprise

So it does seem that Carr was dropped and not injured for Roscommon game
Went well............

irishgeo

km79 wrote: »

http://twitter.com/RefComeOn/status/1142177018320175106

Looks like James Carr is the latest player to fall foul of Horan

mayo news says he was injured so maybe getting some game time to get back his fitness.

seligehgit

km79 wrote: »

No more bizarre than Eoin o Donoghue not getting a sniff
Horan is just a strange individual

Diskin and Reape also played for their clubs
But that's not really a suprise

So it does seem that Carr was dropped and not injured for Roscommon game
Went well............

His lack of game time is the selection I'd have greatest issue with.

Can't get my head around it.

km79

seligehgit wrote: »

His lack of game time is the selection I'd have greatest issue with.

Can't get my head around it.

The game against Roscommon took the biscuit
Didn't even use all subs
Horan is just weird at times

Bunny Colvin

seligehgit wrote: »

Mayo face a trip north tomorrow evening when they take on Down in Newry at 7 PM.

Following a defeat to Roscommon last month Mayo manager James Horan makes five changes to this starting team.David Clarke,Colm Boyle and Andy Moran are all named to start as are Conor Loftus and Fionn McDonagh who will be making his championship debut.The players to miss out are Rob Hennelly,Michael Plunkett,Matthew Ruane,Fergal Boland and Evan Regan.

1. David Clarke - Ballina Stephenites
2. Chris Barrett - Belmullet
3. Brendan Harrison - Aghamore
4. Keith Higgins - Ballyhaunis
5. Lee Keegan - Westport
6. Colm Boyle - Davitts
7. Patrick Durcan - Castlebar Mitchels
8. Diarmuid O Connor - Ballintubber(C)
9. Aidan O Shea - Breaffy
10. Fionn McDonagh - Westport
11. Conor Loftus - Crossmolina Deel Rovers
12. Jason Doherty - Burrishoole
13. Kevin McLoughlin - Knockmore
14. Darren Coen -Hollymount/Carramore
15. Andy Moran - Ballaghaderreen

No messing around with that team.

No surprise to see Clarke back in, there won't be many complaints about that. Plenty of experience in the backs.

Diarmuid's best position is midfield imo, he's always operates deep. Leaving him there gives us more options in the forwards.

Loftus can count himself lucky that he's in, he must be going well in training. Big game as well for McDonagh, hopefully he lays down a marker. Cillian could start yet. Vaughan another man who might come in at some stage.

Happy enough with that overall.

wirelessdude01

So with Carr, Diskin and Reape all back with clubs that is a sizable chunk of the new players from the league gone from championship panel. So much for a building process.

PressRun

The O'Donoghue thing always puzzled me, but I did hear that there was a discipline issue with James Carr, so that may be why he's not featuring.

Cillian may come on at some point. Can't see him starting. I think Andy will start to try and settle the nerves early and cillian introduced later.

Fr Tod Umptious

PressRun wrote: »

The O'Donoghue thing always puzzled me, but I did hear that there was a discipline issue with James Carr, so that may be why he's not featuring.

Cillian may come on at some point. Can't see him starting. I think Andy will start to try and settle the nerves early and cillian introduced later.

I hope to God Cillian is togged and ready to come in at some stage

For those of us out of the county and not close to the grapevine all this rumor of a rift and the fact that he is again not starting is not good to hear

Seeing him play again would be a relief

Some people here are questioning Horan's though process and wondering what he is up to because of certain players not making the panel etc

I'd hold fire on that a bit
Sure, for anyone who knows him will know that Horan is more Brian Clough than Kofi Anan, but maybe there is good reason for some players no longer on the panel

Bust if Cillian fails to appear again I'd be beginning to ask serious questions myself

PressRun

Well it seems to be fairly common knowledge that Cillian featured in a recent challenge match. He played 20 minutes apparently. I'd imagine the same can be expected for tomorrow night.

naughto

Coc will start instead of Moran surly

km79

Mayo subs as per programme

Robbie Hennelly
David Drake
Eoin O D
Michael Plunkett
James Mccormack
Stephen Coen
Mikey Murray
Ciaran Treacy
Fergal Boland
Evan Regan
James Durcan


Worrying .......

wirelessdude01

That bench is notable for who isn't listed.

km79

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

I hope to God Cillian is togged and ready to come in at some stage

For those of us out of the county and not close to the grapevine all this rumor of a rift and the fact that he is again not starting is not good to hear

Seeing him play again would be a relief

Some people here are questioning Horan's though process and wondering what he is up to because of certain players not making the panel etc

I'd hold fire on that a bit
Sure, for anyone who knows him will know that Horan is more Brian Clough than Kofi Anan, but maybe there is good reason for some players no longer on the panel

Bust if Cillian fails to appear again I'd be beginning to ask serious questions myself

......

Barlett

The secrecy around O’Connor is odd at this stage

Bunny Colvin

Who knows what's going on there

ProudDUB

Parking info.

https://twitter.com/OfficialDownGAA/status/1142367145952796672?s=19

jr86

km79 wrote: »

Mayo subs as per programme

Robbie Hennelly
David Drake
Eoin O D
Michael Plunkett
James Mccormack
Stephen Coen
Mikey Murray
Ciaran Treacy
Fergal Boland
Evan Regan
James Durcan


Worrying .......

This is surely by far the rawest bench we've had in a championship game in this era?

Can't see any reliable game changer in that

I really have a bad feeling about this one, it really is a perfect storm as a poster said last week. However we'll probably limp over the line in unspectacular fashion, but it's nigh on impossible to harbour any hopes for the season

Bunny Colvin

jr86 wrote: »

This is surely by far the rawest bench we've had in a championship game in this era?

Can't see any reliable game changer in that

I really have a bad feeling about this one, it really is a perfect storm as a poster said last week. However we'll probably limp over the line in unspectacular fashion, but it's nigh on impossible to harbour any hopes for the season

It has that kind of feel to it alright. Take the emotions out of it and it's a game we should be winning at least eight times out of ten.

It's imperative that we get a good start, you don't want to be chasing the game and giving Down confidence, especially on a tight pitch away from home. I have a feeling we're gonna struggle for scores though. Hopefully McDonagh and Loftus step up.

yop

100%
I said this earlier but I won't be surprised that this team could lose.
The change out needed has been covered over by the league win, which most of it was delivered by the new guys.
His squad choices are head scratching and the old guard of 2010 are still there today.

Let's see. But I've a real bad feeling.

Any footage to be seen before tomorrow night?

Bunny Colvin

yop wrote: »

100%
I said this earlier but I won't be surprised that this team could lose.
The change out needed has been covered over by the league win, which most of it was delivered by the new guys.
His squad choices are head scratching and the old guard of 2010 are still there today.

Let's see. But I've a real bad feeling.

I think there was real optimism with the league win, mainly because he seemed to successfully integrate new players and we could still call on some of the older guard from the bench - which was a real asset. Now its just back to business as usual. You've also got the likes of Carr and Diskin not being involved at all, which is strange.

On the flip side maybe he feels the experience is what's needed today. You could also say that McDonagh and Coen are new faces and that Ruane would definitely have started.

But no one can deny that we're very light on backup right now. That's as weak a bench that I can remember for a long time. An injury to the likes of Aidan or Diarmuid would be a hammer blow.

Loafing Oaf

Bunny Colvin wrote: »

But no one can deny that we're very light on backup right now. That's as weak a bench that I can remember for a long time. An injury to the likes of Aidan or Diarmuid would be a hammer blow.

Or a red/black card to either (obviously a far-out hypothetical scenario)

Bunny Colvin

Loafing Oaf wrote: »

Or a red/black card to either (obviously a far-out hypothetical scenario)

Or a clash of heads, sure that's never happened before!

jr86

Bunny Colvin wrote: »

But no one can deny that we're very light on backup right now. That's as weak a bench that I can remember for a long time. An injury to the likes of Aidan or Diarmuid would be a hammer blow.

100%

I miss the days when we used to quibble about Boyle and Andy being taken off prematurely in games

I hate saying it but I would not have faith in one of those subs winning us this game, bar maybe EOD, who is probably there by default and will likely spend the evening warming his seat

To think people criticised our depth before. I recall games where we had Andy, Dillon, Barry Moran, Mickey Conroy, Alan Freeman all as options in reserve

SeanJ09

Big Mayo crowd in Newry already.

km79

Cillian not togged

naughto

km79 wrote: »

Cillian not togged

Iam starting to believe the rumor that went around awhile back that he did his hamstring in a tubber game

Kalyke

Mayo are on telly tonight!.... Well, featuring in the RTE build up to the Munster final. Telly on mute, Mid West up full belt. Like old times!

km79

Shambolic start
And the inexplicable omission of a few forward options going to hurt now with Coen gone

seligehgit

Three up at the break.

Aidan has been outstanding,Fionn is the pick of the forwards.

Very soft down the middle.Down are very pacey and our lads at times seem a bit leggy.

No idea what the Darren Coen's black card was for.

Fann Linn

km79 wrote: »

Cillian not togged

Did he stsrt?

statto25

Fann Linn wrote: »

km79 wrote: »

Cillian not togged

Did he stsrt?

Ya he played in jeans and runners

km79

David Clarke to the rescue

km79

SOooooooo slow to make changes again

Loafing Oaf

How are they still playing? Munster final is over and they played 5 minutes injury time...

seligehgit

A win is a win but we'll have to improve beyond all recognition.

Loafing Oaf

seligehgit wrote: »

A win is a win but we'll have to improve beyond all recognition.

I'd say we'd take any of the Leinster teams or Clare or Sligo even a bit off our best. But then I probably said similar before the Kildare game last year...

km79

Overall
Worried

And what’s worse is there is nobody else out there resembling any sort of threat to Dublin

SeanJ09

Poor from us. 6 point win in the end was generous to Mayo. Down could have had a couple of goals if not for David Clarke and poor shooting.

Bunny Colvin

Job done but glaring deficiencies at the back. We were wide open there at times, a good team would have taken us to the cleaners. Not sure what Horan was at with the lack of changes either. Andy left on far too long as well. Don't want to be too critical but serious improvement needed.

Aidan O'Shea, Boyler and Clarke probably our best three.

Serious Mayo support despite the throw-in time, best fans in Ireland.

Bunny Colvin

Also, Down supporters are the soundest bunch you'll come across.

seligehgit

Bunny Colvin wrote: »

Job done but glaring deficiencies at the back. We were wide open there at times, a good team would have taken us to the cleaners. Not sure what Horan was at with the lack of changes either. Andy left on far too long as well. Don't want to be too critical but serious improvement needed.

Aidan O'Shea, Boyler and Clarke probably our best three.

Serious Mayo support despite the throw-in time, best fans in Ireland.

Very harsh re Andy,he was excellent tonight.Linked up play very well,primary score creator.

Aidan is doing so much heavy carrying for the team ATM.David Clarke made a couple of great saves,justified his status as our best goalkeeper.

Conor Loftus contributed little outside a rather shaky performance on the frees.

Bunny Colvin

seligehgit wrote: »

Very harsh re Andy,he was excellent tonight.Linked up play very well,primary score creator.

Aidan is doing so much heavy carrying for the team ATM.David Clarke made a couple of great saves,justified his status as our best goalkeeper.

Conor Loftus contributed little outside a rather shaky performance on the frees.

I'm not having a go at Andy, Seligehgit. I thought he played well but you've to be thinking of next week, fresh legs would have been no harm.

Agreed on Loftus. Surprised he stayed on. I thought Regan showed well, got in front of a lot of ball, won his frees and worked hard.

Panrich

Bunny Colvin wrote: »

Agreed on Loftus. Surprised he stayed on.

Loftus got at least 1-1 from play and if he had been played in by others would have got more. In contrast Doherty and McLoughlin butchered numerous chances and I don't think either of them scored from play..

km79

Panrich wrote: »

Loftus got at least 1-1 from play and if he had been played in by others would have got more. In contrast Doherty and McLoughlin butchered numerous chances and I don't think either of them scored from play..

Which is a huge worry tbh