Mayo GAA Discussion - Part 4

naughto

That’s what we are all waiting for

ProudDUB

Yeah. Hurry up. The suspense is killing.

jr86

SomethingElse wrote: »

A hot day and no cover for midfield? Would suggest to me that the named team won't start, one of the midfielders will be held in reserve

I'd say Stephen Coen is meant to be in there

Coillte_Bhoy

jr86 wrote: »

I'd say Stephen Coen is meant to be in there

He's on the list i have seen

km79

http://twitter.com/RefComeOn/status/1144989497626636290


Really strong bench
Crowe is there instead of Caff though

km79

There is a strong enough breeze in it .......

seligehgit

Substitutes 16-26

Robert Hennelly
Eoin O Donoghue
Colm Boyle
Caolan Crowe
Stephen Coen
Ciaran Treacy
Jason Doherty
Evan Regan
Darren Coen
Cillian O Connor
James Carr

franklyon

Close game. Strange one Andy coming off i thought he wasnt doing too badly. Bit of afters at half time.

Kristopherus

Mayo trying their best to lose the gane. Crazy stuff.

franklyon

Thank god thats over. Less said about the last few minutes the better. Some really bad decision making.

jr86

Kristopherus wrote: »

Mayo trying their best to lose the gane. Crazy stuff.

Clarke's wayward pass in injury time bet all

Still in the draw but more frustrations than positives I think

Except Darren Coen, he was phenomenal. Unfortunately our full back line is at almost liability level now. Doesn't take a genius to figure out the opponent's game plan next week

seligehgit

Relieved we got over the line.

Few drinks and leave any real thoughts till later.

PressRun

It was a terrible performance in many ways. Our full back line is engaging in absolute suicide stuff at times, very hard to watch. Aidan was struggling to get on the end of Clarke's kickouts for most of the game and we weren't tidying up much breaking ball there either.

Positives: Kevin McLoughlin had a good day out and is much better coming onto the ball. He is wasted in the corner. Darren Coen had a great day on the shooting too. And it was great to see Cillian back. He looked physically well and keen to get in the mix once on.

As for injuries, well...its a litany at this stage. Lee was on crutches at the end of the game. Jason's didn't look as serious at first glance, but I guess we'll have to see.

jr86

On paper all games are winnable next week but it has a real feel of Kildare last year

Playing badly, more injuries, little confidence.

That said Galway is probably the worst draw. I reckon they'll have a field day against our FB line.

Stoner

PressRun wrote:

It was a terrible performance in many ways. Our full back line is engaging in absolute suicide stuff at times, very hard to watch. Aidan was struggling to get on the end of Clarke's kickouts for most of the game and we weren't tidying up much breaking ball there either.

It was a good call to reduce the long kickouts though, after Jamie Clarke's first point Mayo ran it up more and built up a bit of a run.

I think it was a good win all things considered, COC didn't look in great form, but it's good that he came on and you are still in it.

Hopefully Keegan's injury isn't bad.

Armagh were good, better than I thought, that lad Hall was a handful and he went for it at the end too.

I'm happy for McGeeney as I think he's building something there and people recognise it. He's probably better off knowing J Clarke is gone next year anyway. Maybe Yob was right about them, or maybe Mayo were just badly hit with injuries. Maybe...

Fast decisions too. I think Moran going off was a good move, opened it up.

Why was Coen not making the team last year ? David Drake coming on last year when we needed a score taker and yet this player not in the squad ??

Tomcasey

I just love Mayo supporters - full of optimism every year and then realism hits, usually in late August or sometimes even September, but they always catch up with the rest of us eventually and realise how poor their team is. Players rule, not management!! Go on Limerick hurlers!

Frozen Veg

Mayo don't look as fit as other years. Or perhaps age is just catching up with a few.

Redsoxfan

Stoner wrote:

I'm happy for McGeeney

Jebus.

jr86

Frozen Veg wrote: »

Mayo don't look as fit as other years. Or perhaps age is just catching up with a few.

It's kind of in bursts anymore

Had a great period end of first half but end product let us down . Prob should have been going in 4 or 5 up after that

I don't recall a mayo forward kicking scores like Coen for years

Westernyelp

Tomcasey wrote:

I just love Mayo supporters - full of optimism every year and then realism hits, usually in late August or sometimes even September, but they always catch up with the rest of us eventually and realise how poor their team is. Players rule, not management!! Go on Limerick hurlers!

Nurse! Tom's out of bed again

jr86

jr86 wrote: »

It's kind of in bursts anymore

Had a great period end of first half but end product let us down . Prob should have been going in 4 or 5 up after that

I don't recall a mayo forward kicking scores like Coen for years

Yeah, shocking to see. Not like a normal Mayo forward. What was Rochford at!!

PressRun

Stoner wrote: »

It was a good call to reduce the long kickouts though, after Jamie Clarke's first point Mayo ran it up more and built up a bit of a run.

I think it was a good win all things considered, COC didn't look in great form, but it's good that he came on and you are still in it.

Hopefully Keegan's injury isn't bad.

Armagh were good, better than I thought, that lad Hall was a handful and he went for it at the end too.

I'm happy for McGeeney as I think he's building something there and people recognise it. He's probably better off knowing J Clarke is gone next year anyway. Maybe Yob was right about them, or maybe Mayo were just badly hit with injuries. Maybe...

Fast decisions too. I think Moran going off was a good move, opened it up.

Agreed on the long kick outs.

Hall was a wee rocket. Physically small, but some strength in the tackle. Shaking lads off like rag dolls and bulling through at every opportunity. Was very impressed by him.
Armagh impressed me in general. Quick smart forwards and tenacious. They could be onto something in the coming years.

Cillian needs more game time obviously, but he was right in front of me for the second half and he looked eager.

Praying Keegan injury isn't serious. We're very thin as is and we can't afford this dropping like flies that's going on. I didn't see exactly what happened but appeared he rolled his ankle? Not sure really but he seemed to be putting some weight on it coming off and didn't have to go to hospital straight away. Fingers crossed.

jr86

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Yeah, shocking to see. Not like a normal Mayo forward. What was Rochford at!!

Has he been good at club level for hollymouny?

They won intermediate a few years ago alright. I haven't seen a whole lot of them overall though

Thought mcdonagh had a great first half too. Murray had a day to forget but it's experience. Why isn't ger mcdonagh considered for FB?

jr86

Actually special word for Boyle too. Some key interceptions in first half that repelled some dangerous attacks. May well have been the winning of the game

Unfortunately his decision making on the ball is not near what it was though,but his reading of the game is always phenomenal

muddle84

As far as I know, Darren Coen is well known in club for his kicking abilities both passing and scoring.

Am I right in saying that the next round will be a neutral venue?

BandMember

muddle84 wrote: »

Am I right in saying that the next round will be a neutral venue?

Yes. All games at neutral venues next weekend. If we get over that, Round 1 of the Super 8's the following weekend at the Provincial winner's ground. Round 2 the following week and then a week off before the 3rd Round on the August Bank Holiday weekend.

I'll post a few thoughts on tonight's game later, my heart and nerves are still recovering from it....

Stoner

Redsoxfan wrote:

Jebus.

Lol,

The Ulster lads don't seem to like him.

charlie14

BandMember wrote: »

Yes. All games at neutral venues next weekend. If we get over that, Round 1 of the Super 8's the following weekend at the Provincial winner's ground. Then a week off.

I'll post a few thoughts on tonight's game later, my heart and nerves are still recovering from it....

Does the week off not come into play until after the second round of super 8.
Did last year afair.

BandMember

charlie14 wrote: »

Does the week off not come into play until after the second round of super 8.
Did last year afair.

Apologies, you are correct and I have amended my previous post - Round 1, Round 2, Week Off, Round 3 (on the August Bank Holiday weekend).

Redsoxfan

Stoner wrote:

The Ulster lads don't seem to like him.

Don't think it's just us tbh!

km79

Don't want to be too critical as lads were literally dying on their feet for the team again tonight.I am putting the last 10 minutes of chaos when nobody was showing for any pass/free/kickout down to that
So I will start with the positives

Boyler- phenomenal especially when things were not going well at the start
Fionn McDonagh - fearless and can kick a score. Going to be some player. Reminds me a bit of Diarmuid when he first came on the scene. And the way he goes into tackles.......
Coen- he has surprised me. Shame we have 2 extra scorinf forwards while the team is falling apart behind them!!!
Cillian back - showed great experience to slow the game down at a vital stage and Kevin Mc capitlaised bu getting free moved in
Free taking - hit all bar one I think

Negatives
Higgins - he just can not start the next day. Eoin O Donoghue has to. I won't say anymore as he he has been a great servant
Tactics - 5 points up. See the game out with a sweeper maybe? NO NO NO don't be silly lets play a 2 man
full back line man to man. CRAZY CRAZY stuff. The whole defensive set up was from start to finish and Horan WILL NOT CHANGE.
Kevin Mc goal also showed the fallacy of playing him inside . He needs to be running with the ball
Injuries - there is also now a rumour that Aido left with a foot brace on

There is no way we were winning that game in ET so thank God for the lunatic of an Armagh player that tried to kick a score from halfway!!!!

Anyway we are in the hat and I want either Meath or Cavan. Not looking beyond round 4 and the last 10 minutes could be very similar to today sadly.
If we were to sneak through 2 more super 8 games before a break will just be too much sadly
UP MAYO

km79

Also it is too soon for Mikey Murray and he looks more like a half forward than a midfielder. Maybe a 3rd midfielder role but not in a pair. It was a hard hard slog for Aido tonight and if he is shut down next week we are goosed

vid36

Well done lads and I am praying we don't get ye.

tayto lover

Cavan v Mayo in Carrick on Shannon would be nice.

BandMember

tayto lover wrote: »

Cavan v Mayo in Carrick on Shannon would be nice.

I'm pretty sure that we need to draw Galway or Meath to avoid the Super 8's group with Dublin in it?

So, either of them would be my preference in that case.

km79

BandMember wrote: »

I'm pretty sure that we need to draw Galway or Meath to avoid the Super 8's group with Dublin in it?

So, either of them would be my preference in that case.

IMO Roscommon are the most beatable of the provincial finalists so maybe we would be better off in their group and hope to get the weakest R4 qualifier. If we even make it that far

Frozen Veg

jr86 wrote: »

It's kind of in bursts anymore

Had a great period end of first half but end product let us down . Prob should have been going in 4 or 5 up after that

I don't recall a mayo forward kicking scores like Coen for years

Players look stuck to the ground at times and as if the stamina isn't there.

Early in the first half when Mayo were turning over possession in their own half, players were walking out half jaded when they should be looking to break quick on the attack.

jr86

BandMember wrote: »

I'm pretty sure that we need to draw Galway or Meath to avoid the Super 8's group with Dublin in it?

So, either of them would be my preference in that case.

Yeah, several - including myself - are forgetting that Monday's draw not only has connotations for next week but also the super 8s themselves

While you only want to look at one week at a time, I'd still like the best possible chance if we did make the super 8s.

Dublin first up would be a disaster imo. A probable hiding and then only a week off to game 2. Be impossible pick ourselves up. Ros first up and a possible win could help us build up steam and we could then get a few lads back

I know, I know, looking very far ahead :pac: but because of that I'd look to avoid Cavan

Hurry up Monday will ya

charlie14

BandMember wrote: »

I'm pretty sure that we need to draw Galway or Meath to avoid the Super 8's group with Dublin in it?

So, either of them would be my preference in that case.

Yeah, to avoid Dublin you would have to beat either the losing Connacht or losing Leinster finalists.

BandMember

km79 wrote: »

IMO Roscommon are the most beatable of the provincial finalists so maybe we would be better off in their group and hope to get the weakest R4 qualifier. If we even make it that far

Roscommon are in the same group as Dublin and, as jr86 has quite rightly summed up, f**k that! :pac:

jr86

BandMember wrote: »

Roscommon are in the same group as Dublin and, as jr86 has quite rightly summed up, f**k that! :pac:

Ros will be tough again in fairness.

I don't think they'd miss some of those chances armagh did and are better organised all round I think

Dublin is a write off lets not pretend otherwise but at least in other group could beat Kerry on a good day maybe, and who knows Galway or Tyrone could somehow lose to laois or something :pac:

But this is very much wishful thinking. Next week will be a guaranteed slog . If Aidan is out, forget it I think

km79

Apparently if we draw Cavan and beat them the super 8 games would be
Away to Rossies
Croke park vs Cork/qualifier
week off
Dublin in Cbar

Thats the best we can hope for imo
Cavan please

BandMember

km79 wrote: »

Apparently if we draw Cavan and beat them the super 8 games would be
Away to Rossies
Croke park vs Cork/qualifier
week off
Dublin in Cbar

Thats the best we can hope for imo
Cavan please

How did you make that out??

km79

BandMember wrote: »

How did you make that out??

the super 8 draw is already done out based on provincial winners and losers/team that beats them
If we were to draw and beat Cork it would be Dubs away first rossies last

BandMember

Is it just me, or does anybody think that the G.A.A. would let Mayo play Dublin in Castlebar and that they wouldn't come up with something to try and stop that happening?

km79

BandMember wrote: »

Is it just me, or does anybody think that the G.A.A. would let Mayo play Dublin in Castlebar and that they wouldn't come up with something to try and stop that happening?

It’s just you

Someone on the blog has done the donkey work of possible r4/super 8 groupings
Cavan please please please
And not Meath now

Beatt Galway means away to Kerry, Croker v Meath or whoever beats them, home to Donegal

Beat Cavan means away to Ross, Croker against Cork or whoever beats them and home to Dublin

Beat Cork means away to away to dublin, Croker for Cavan or whoever beats them, home to Rossies

Beat Meath means away to Donegal, Croker for Galway or whoever beats them, home to Kerry

recyclebin

Some people are getting ahead themselves here......

BandMember

recyclebin wrote: »

Some people are getting ahead themselves here......

Nobody is getting ahead of anything - they're just trying to figure out what awaits them. The way we're going at the moment and with the injury problems we have, nobody should or could ever look too far ahead. No harm to know though......and hope....

km79

recyclebin wrote: »

Some people are getting ahead themselves here......

Next Monday’s draw directly leads on to the super 8 draw for all teams concerned
So no