Mayo GAA Discussion - Part 4

seligehgit

Tooreen 0-5 Father O Neills 0-10 at half time.

seligehgit

Tooreen struggling for scores.

9 wides thus far but Father O Neills are down to 14 men.

seligehgit

Second red card for the Cork lads but Tooreen are shooting themselves in the foot with their wide count.

Tooreen 0-7 Father O Neills 0-12

eastmayo

seligehgit wrote: »

Tooreen struggling for scores.

9 wides thus far but Father O Neills are down to 14 men.

Down to 13 now......have 2 go for it now...plenty time.

seligehgit

Down to a 4 point gap.

seligehgit

Goal Tooreen.

Two points in it!

seligehgit

Valiant effort by Tooreen.Beaten by the better team on the day.

Tooreen 1-12 Father O Neills 0-19

Kenny Feeney shown the line at the death of normal time.Sean Regan had a goal disallowed.

Declan Dalton MOTM.

charlie14

Fair play to Mickey Moran ex Mayo county manager on getting Kilcoo to an All Ireland Senior clubs final.

seligehgit

charlie14 wrote: »

Fair play to Mickey Moran ex Mayo county manager on getting Kilcoo to an All Ireland Senior clubs final.

He's a fair man for working his magic.He'll be canonised if they beat Corofin.Can't see happening though.

charlie14

seligehgit wrote: »

He's a fair man for working his magic.He'll be canonised if they beat Corofin.Can't see happening though.

A thorough gentleman as well.

After that Corofin performance today I can1t see it either.
Kilcoo did a great job on the St Enda danger men today, but Corofin have too many of them.
The last two years, once out of the province they just upped the performance game on game.
Today looked no different.
Fair play to Tooreen, they gave it a real go against a team from a county that is one of the major powers in hurling.
They will be disappointed tonight, but can be very proud of their year. Provincial champions is no mean achievement.

Coillte_Bhoy

The bould Kilbane on Dancing on Ice

muddle84

It's only the fbd and all that, but it's been a long f&$#in winter and I can't wait for the weekend!!!!

mayo.mick

muddle84 wrote: »

It's only the fbd and all that, but it's been a long f&$#in winter and I can't wait for the weekend!!!!

The rollercoaster starts again:pac:

blowitupref

Mayo team for Sunday.

1. Robert Hennelly - Breaffy
2. James Stretton - Claremorris
3. James McCormack - Claremorris
4. Brendan Harrison - Aghamore
5. Padraig O'Hora - Ballina Stephenites
6. Michael Plunkett - Ballintubber
7. Patrick Durcan - Castlebar Mitchels
8. Tom Parsons - Charlestown
9. Mikey Murray - Ballina Stephenites
10. Brian Walsh - Ballintubber
11. Conor Loftus - Crossmolina Deel Rovers
12. Jordan Flynn - Crossmolina Deel Rovers
13. Kevin McLoughlin - Knockmore
14. Brian Reape - Bohola Moy Davitts
15. Diarmuid O'Connor - Ballintubber

NabyLadistheman

The Connaught reporting Barrett is gone from the management team. Strange one. Also heard Mullins is heading for Oz, not sure if he has been offered a contract or whether it’s just for trials. Would be an absolute nightmare of he does get one. That team is less than inspiring

km79

Hennelly
Jesus Christ we learn nothing

And yes it means something
I was told this time last year it meant nothing when he started FBD over clarke
It did
Horan refuses to learn
Stubborn man

charlie14

km79 wrote: »

Hennelly
Jesus Christ we learn nothing

And yes it means something
I was told this time last year it meant nothing when he started FBD over clarke
It did
Horan refuses to learn
Stubborn man

I would not read too much into that tbh.
Management with ambitions of serious honours nowadays look at these early season competitions as somewhere between third rate and a nuisance.
They are using them to get a look at some younger lads and to give game time in the main to some older lads that they may not even consider as first draft to keep them interested

seligehgit

blowitupref wrote: »

Mayo team for Sunday.

1. Robert Hennelly - Breaffy
2. James Stretton - Claremorris
3. James McCormack - Claremorris
4. Brendan Harrison - Aghamore
5. Padraig O'Hora - Ballina Stephenites
6. Michael Plunkett - Ballintubber
7. Patrick Durcan - Castlebar Mitchels
8. Tom Parsons - Charlestown
9. Mikey Murray - Ballina Stephenites
10. Brian Walsh - Ballintubber
11. Conor Loftus - Crossmolina Deel Rovers
12. Jordan Flynn - Crossmolina Deel Rovers
13. Kevin McLoughlin - Knockmore
14. Brian Reape - Bohola Moy Davitts
15. Diarmuid O'Connor - Ballintubber

I thought the two Claremorris lads were better known as half backs?

Delighted to see Padraig O Hora get a run out,ditto Walsh and Flynn.I know named positions mean zilch but Diarmuid will hardly start inside?

Hopefully we'll see Gary Boylan and Ryan O Donoghue too.

It would have seemed an ideal time to give another goalkeeper some game time.Rory Byrne?

Very disappointing news if Oisin Mullins is Oz bound.

Kalyke

Delighted to see Tom back!!

seligehgit

Kalyke wrote: »

Delighted to see Tom back!!

He did come on at the death of the semi final last year but absolutely it's great to see him back enthused as ever by wearing the green and red.

In his role as the voluntary secretary of the GPA he wrote a very fine article.

https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/we-are-100-amateur-but-players-cannot-be-expected-to-pay-to-play-38806131.html

jr86

charlie14 wrote: »

I would not read too much into that tbh.
Management with ambitions of serious honours nowadays look at these early season competitions as somewhere between third rate and a nuisance.
They are using them to get a look at some younger lads and to give game time in the main to some older lads that they may not even consider as first draft to keep them interested

Yeah reading too much into teams this time of year is daft, but sure that's what the internet is for I guess

I mean we've no clue about the circumstances of the selection. They'll often pick some regular players who may be coming back from injury for example or who they may want to look at in a new role.

They might want to look at some new combinations.

Judgment on team selections is a bit of a waste of energy in early January, the league will be a much better gauge. A league I can unfortunately see mayo struggling in given the run of fixtures

seligehgit

jr86 wrote: »

Yeah reading too much into teams this time of year is daft, but sure that's what the internet is for I guess

I mean we've no clue about the circumstances of the selection. They'll often pick some regular players who may be coming back from injury for example or who they may want to look at in a new role.

They might want to look at some new combinations.

Judgment on team selections is a bit of a waste of energy in early January, the league will be a much better gauge. A league I can unfortunately see mayo struggling in given the run of fixtures

In recent years we sailed very close to the wind in division 1.

I have genuine concerns re our ability to stay up this year.

jr86

seligehgit wrote: »

In recent years we sailed very close to the wind in division 1.

I have genuine concerns re our ability to stay up this year.

Have to agree Seligehgit. I assume Meath will drop but Mayo will be well in the mix for the other spot I fear. Donegal will hardly go down again, Galway no chance I'd say with new manager, Dublin and Kerry obviously not, you'd imagine monaghan will be well up for it which would leave Tyrone as the other contender imo.

Essentially mayo have zero margin for error and might need to pull off a big scalp or two.

The run of fixtures is very unforgiving though

seligehgit

seligehgit wrote: »

In recent years we sailed very close to the wind in division 1.

I have genuine concerns re our ability to stay up this year.

I think I should clarify same.

We are a team in transition,James Horan's is likely to rightly appease the natives wishes for real experimentation in terms of trying out new players,our league schedule is arduous with only three home fixtures.

We can't be certain that a newly promoted Meath will go straight down as they are I believe a team on the up.

Without stating the obvious and then stating it: It's vital we make a fast start in those first 3 games.

Yet the Meath away game is a must win game,it is laughable that we aim to target a perhaps speculated vulnerable Dessie Farrell managed Dublin team,I just don't buy it.But what better and more necessary time to end our wretched run against them.

jr86

seligehgit wrote: »

I think I should clarify same.

We are a team in transition,James Horan's is likely to rightly appease the natives wishes for real experimentation in terms of trying out new players,our league schedule is arduous with only three home fixtures.

We can't be certain that a newly promoted Meath will go straight down as they are I believe a team on the up.

Without stating the obvious and then stating it: It's vital we make a fast start in those first 3 games.

Yet the Meath away game is a must win game,it is laughable that we aim to target a perhaps speculated vulnerable Dessie Farrell managed Dublin team,I just don't buy it.But what better and more necessary time to end our wretched run against them.

To be fair I may be doing Meath a disservice alright. I'm sure they'll be very much prioritising the league in their first year back up. They played some decent stuff in the championship last year and almost bet Tyrone the year before

seligehgit

jr86 wrote: »

Have to agree Seligehgit. I assume Meath will drop but Mayo will be well in the mix for the other spot I fear. Donegal will hardly go down again, Galway no chance I'd say with new manager, Dublin and Kerry obviously not, you'd imagine monaghan will be well up for it which would leave Tyrone as the other contender imo.

Essentially mayo have zero margin for error and might need to pull off a big scalp or two.

The run of fixtures is very unforgiving though

I'm going to contradict my earlier post and predict Meath will likely be relegated:D but I truly believe Meath are a coming team.

I think Monaghan will be the other team in the mix with ourselves.I'd be less inclined to throw Tyrone in the mix although is Cathal Mc Shane available??His absence would be a savage blow.

seligehgit

Declan O Reilly appointed coaching officer for 2020.

km79

charlie14 wrote: »

I would not read too much into that tbh.
Management with ambitions of serious honours nowadays look at these early season competitions as somewhere between third rate and a nuisance.
They are using them to get a look at some younger lads and to give game time in the main to some older lads that they may not even consider as first draft to keep them interested

This was exactly what was said last year!
And I asked the same question i will ask now.
Why is he not looking at a younger keeper and giving them some game time?

charlie14

km79 wrote: »

This was exactly what was said last year!
And I asked the same question i will ask now.
Why is he not looking at a younger keeper and giving them some game time?

A good point.
In fairness to management in these early season games the often just throw in their 2nd and 3rd choice keeper to have a look at them and let them know they have to perform well to have a shot at being even in with a chance of 1st chance.
I would see it a bit worrying that he did not give a young lad a shot but regardless of this being a 3rd level competition, Galway/Mayo games have often a life of their own. He may have thought it better to look at a young keeper coming on during a game, or in another fixture, rather to start him and him a bundle of nerves.
Just my 2 cents guess tbh.

jr86

km79 wrote: »

This was exactly what was said last year!
And I asked the same question i will ask now.
Why is he not looking at a younger keeper and giving them some game time?

Who knows but maybe Hennelly has been injured/late back to training/overdid the Christmas, maybe Horan wants to assess his leadership qualities behind an inexperienced defence/ wants said defence to link up with him in terms of kickout strategy or whatever/ maybe he wants to get the most out of Parsons on kickouts - all in all who knows.

There are just so many variables with FBD team selections. All I know is Horan is seeing a lot more of the panel than anyone on here is, and knows exactly what shape they're in

km79

jr86 wrote: »

Who knows but maybe Hennelly has been injured/late back to training/overdid the Christmas, maybe Horan wants to assess his leadership qualities behind an inexperienced defence/ wants said defence to link up with him in terms of kickout strategy or whatever/ maybe he wants to get the most out of Parsons on kickouts - all in all who knows.

There are just so many variables with FBD team selections. All I know is Horan is seeing a lot more of the panel than anyone on here is, and knows exactly what shape they're in

Ah the auld kickout argument again
You would sweat Hennelly is the only keeper in Mayo who can kick the ball out
I suppose it is hard to tell when the manager will not look at any others !!!!
We all seen the dublin game
The meltdown
Again

Why can’t we try another young keeper in what effect is a meaningless pre season game ?????
Either way both keepers are coming to the end of their mayo careers and we need to cast the net

Green&Red

KM - there’s not that many young keepers at the big clubs these days. I’d struggle to name one under 25 that would be fit for a senior panel.

I’d agree Byrne should be given game time, what’s the point of him being there but the counter is in other positions you wouldn’t have someone one the panel for a couple of weeks and then start them

Loafing Oaf

If anyone was thinking of attending today's U20 match, it's been moved from Ballina to Bekan

blinding

The Kilmaine All- Ireland junior semi-final is on Midwest Radio for anyone that wants to listen.

seligehgit

Some finish!

Extra time and Kilmaine will be back 15 men for same.

seligehgit

Heartbreak for Kilmaine.

They had their chances at the death.

blinding

Great effort by Kilmaine . Lost by 1 point after extra time .

jr86

Ah well there's always next year! Not many other teams get that chance :pac:

Now they need to dust themselves off and go out and get out of junior in Mayo for once and for all

They've a nice team, it's a real pity they're not going up actually challenging for an intermediate title but should be no excuses this year

finisklin

The keeper debate needs to be parked. As long as Clarke and Hennelly are playing they will be the front two.


Horan is a conservative manager. He is going to stick with players that are experienced and tested in big games. Clarke and Hennelly whatever their weaknesses are tried and tested with faults that Horan will try to minimise with creative games plans and plays.



This is reflected by the fact that Schlingermann and O'Malley have departed the scene. They know that as long as Clarke and Hennelly are around there chances are limited.



More disconcerting is that when Clarke retires, Hennelly will be number 1 regardless. This is based on the premise that he has the experience built up over a long number of years and that big game day exposure is what Horan wants.


For me, keepers can build up a consistent faultless record over 5 or 10 games and then lose it with one mistake. Whether that is a lack of concentration or opponents forward prowess doesn't matter. Partly explains why Cluxton is so good, he is consistently good and strives for excellence.


Appreciate that some on here may disagree, but think that Horan is not for turning on this. He's conservative and is going to stick with what he knows and a adapt his game plan around his keepers ability to minimise any weaknesses.



Plus O'Malley and Schlingermann had to have met with Horan before they made their decisions.

RedDevil55

finisklin wrote: »

The keeper debate needs to be parked. As long as Clarke and Hennelly are playing they will be the front two.

Horan is a conservative manager. He is going to stick with players that are experienced and tested in big games. Clarke and Hennelly whatever their weaknesses are tried and tested with faults that Horan will try to minimise with creative games plans and plays.

This is reflected by the fact that Schlingermann and O'Malley have departed the scene. They know that as long as Clarke and Hennelly are around there chances are limited.

More disconcerting is that when Clarke retires, Hennelly will be number 1 regardless. This is based on the premise that he has the experience built up over a long number of years and that big game day exposure is what Horan wants.

For me, keepers can build up a consistent faultless record over 5 or 10 games and then lose it with one mistake. Whether that is a lack of concentration or opponents forward prowess doesn't matter. Partly explains why Cluxton is so good, he is consistently good and strives for excellence.

Appreciate that some on here may disagree, but think that Horan is not for turning on this. He's conservative and is going to stick with what he knows and a adapt his game plan around his keepers ability to minimise any weaknesses.

Plus O'Malley and Schlingermann had to have met with Horan before they made their decisions.

Schlingermann didn't depart because of Hennelly and Clarke. Horan let him go for Rory Byrne after the underdogs game. Also, Schlingermann was rarely starting for his club last year as the Mayo U20 keeper is from Kiltimagh as well. As for O'Malley, Horan would know him better than any of us from his time with Westport. Neither of them are as good as Clarke/Hennelly.

Rory Byrne probably should start tomorrow in what is a pretty meaningless game. However from what I've seen at club games the last few years, he's not as good as the other 2 and won't be starting come championship anyway.

I don't see why Horan would be labelled conservative either. Look at last year when James Carr was given his debut in the league final. Boyle was dropped for the first couple of championship games while towards the end, Keith Higgins, McLoughlin and Andy Moran were on the bench in favour of younger players.

If there was a young Stephen Cluxton out there, he would get an opportunity. While Clarke and Hennelly aren't perfect, they're the 2 best we have.

charlie14

seligehgit wrote: »

I think I should clarify same.

We are a team in transition,James Horan's is likely to rightly appease the natives wishes for real experimentation in terms of trying out new players,our league schedule is arduous with only three home fixtures.

We can't be certain that a newly promoted Meath will go straight down as they are I believe a team on the up.

Without stating the obvious and then stating it: It's vital we make a fast start in those first 3 games.

Yet the Meath away game is a must win game,it is laughable that we aim to target a perhaps speculated vulnerable Dessie Farrell managed Dublin team,I just don't buy it.But what better and more necessary time to end our wretched run against them.

Best to ease their way into the new season by taking it handy in the first game and not worrying about the result.:o

BENDYBINN

charlie14 wrote: »

Best to ease their way into the new season by taking it handy in the first game and not worrying about the result.:o

Exactly,results never bothered this team before!!

seligehgit

Mayo 0-9

Galway 0-8

Playing with a strong wind.

Massive score by Tom Parsons who looks like he was never marked absent.

Padraig O Hora performing admirably.Brian Walsh has chipped in with two nice scores off either foot.

Happyilylost

seligehgit wrote:

Playing with a strong wind.

Strong wind? I hate to think what you think this storm coming tomorrow is. Wind wouldn't even dry me jocks on the line.

jr86

seligehgit wrote: »

Mayo 0-9

Galway 0-8

Playing with a strong wind.

Massive score by Tom Parsons who looks like he was never marked absent.

Padraig O Hora performing admirably.Brian Walsh has chipped in with two nice scores off either foot.

Yeah seems should be further ahead, could be well up against it now. But a few nice scores taken it seems.

Donoghue and Ruane in action for NUIG today by the way

seligehgit

jr86 wrote: »

Yeah seems should be further ahead, could be well up against it now. But a few nice scores taken it seems.

Donoghue and Ruane in action for NUIG today by the way

Two points down to UCC at half time.

Happyilylost

Anyone a few euro for the electricity for the scoreboard would be helpful too.

jr86

seligehgit wrote: »

Two points down to UCC at half time.

UCC have some attack altogether tbf! Sean O'Shea, Spillane, Conor Geaney, Powter; Diarmuid O'Connor in mid too!

Happyilylost

jr86 wrote:

UCC have some attack altogether tbf! Sean O'Shea, Spillane, Conor Geaney, Powter; Diarmuid O'Connor in mid too!

That's the Hurling that's on at the moment. Football is 4 O Clock. On YouTube stream for anyone interested.

seligehgit

jr86 wrote: »

Yeah seems should be further ahead, could be well up against it now. But a few nice scores taken it seems.

Donoghue and Ruane in action for NUIG today by the way

Happyilylost wrote: »

That's the Hurling that's on at the moment. Football is 4 O Clock. On YouTube stream for anyone interested.

Mea culpa.

Met Eireann wouldn't be hiring me either.:D