Werewolf - Mario vs Sonic - SONIC WORLD

Phil WW

Vernon WW wrote: »

But it's very generic Phil. There's been two people posting pics in the thread since the game started and not everyone has posted.

So you're immediately shading me and Angus based off gif posting without actually coming out and saying our names.

That's wolfy behaviour

Mate, you're being super jumpy if you took that post as some personal shot against yourself, and trying to drag Angus in too is interesting.

Still, at least I've got a larger read on yourself anyway. Considering we're just starting, it's curious that you're trying to drag yourself into a big argument over a very general initial thought. But hopefully I can count on others to start getting as involved as you are.

Vernon WW

Phil WW wrote: »

Mate, you're being super jumpy if you took that post as some personal shot against yourself, and trying to drag Angus in too is interesting.

Still, at least I've got a larger read on yourself anyway. Considering we're just starting, it's curious that you're trying to drag yourself into a big argument over a very general initial thought. But hopefully I can count on others to start getting as involved as you are.

Au contraire Phillip... You specifically said:

Phil WW wrote: »

Also, no "There are no tasks" warning, coupled with the fact the first scheduled kills can change (as Mary pointed out) means I'm already throwing people who are giffing into a Suspects pile.

So clearly shading me and Angus for posting gifs as the game began. I'm not being jumpy, you're the one trying to lightly shade people for giffing based off tasks (when have gifs ever been tasks btw).

Don't be twisting around on me for calling you out on your wolfy shading behaviour

Mary WW

Only half of the Sonic World inhabitants have posted. Technically it is Day 0 but then again the first lynch is today unless subject to change happens. Hopefully more get on anyway as we really need something to vote off

Vernon WW

Mary WW wrote: »

Only half of the Sonic World inhabitants have posted. Technically it is Day 0 but then again the first lynch is today unless subject to change happens. Hopefully more get on anyway as we really need something to vote off

Yup, early days yet. Hopefully all have posted before that so we can get a read.

Phil WW

Vernon, I've got zero intention of getting into a spat with you cause you're paranoid over a post that was quite literally labelled as "initial thoughts", especially since I have a feeling it's fuelled in part by the fact only three of us are actually posting this morning.

Brendan WW
Clodagh WW
Gabriel WW
Katie WW
Liam WW

All to post.

Vernon WW

Phil WW wrote: »

Vernon, I've got zero intention of getting into a spat with you cause you're paranoid over a post that was quite literally labelled as "initial thoughts", especially since I have a feeling it's fuelled in part by the fact only three of us are actually posting this morning.

Brendan WW
Clodagh WW
Gabriel WW
Katie WW
Liam WW

All to post.

And yet... you were quite happy to throw giffers into a suspects pile

Phil WW

Vernon WW wrote: »

And yet... you were quite happy to throw giffers into a suspects pile

With, like, 10 posts and nothing else to draw attention yet? Sure, as a throwaway thought.

Trust me Vernon, I've numerous other reasons to be worried about you now anyway. But I've also zero intentions of getting into a spat because we're the only ones posting.

Vernon WW

Phil WW wrote: »

With, like, 10 posts and nothing else to draw attention yet? Sure, as a throwaway thought.

Trust me Vernon, I've numerous other reasons to be worried about you now anyway. But I've also zero intentions of getting into a spat because we're the only ones posting.

:pac: More shade.

Point out those reasons to the three of us rather than just chuck it out there.

Also in your endeavour to appear as a good villager you ignored the likely fact there are goodie tasks as well

Phil WW

Not ignored it at all Vernon. Just not gonna be dragged down a rabbit hole this morning. Would rather get a read of the field before I tunnel one person.

Vernon WW

Phil WW wrote: »

Not ignored it at all Vernon. Just not gonna be dragged down a rabbit hole this morning. Would rather get a read of the field before I tunnel one person.

Admitting to tunnelling already?

Oh dearie me Phil this exchange isn't going well for you :pac:

Vernon WW

Anyways, as fun as it is to rag on Phil for at best his poorly selected phrases

I wish we had more activity on this island.

Vernon WW

Just checked the lynch form. No sign of No Lynch there, so we're gonna need people (particularly the villagers) to speak up with a lynch tonight.

As I said last night, two mislynches and we've lost so hit wrong tonight and we are at LYLO already, presuming there aren't any changes or additions.

Angus WW

Vernon WW wrote: »

Just checked the lynch form. No sign of No Lynch there, so we're gonna need people (particularly the villagers) to speak up with a lynch tonight.

As I said last night, two mislynches and we've lost so hit wrong tonight and we are at LYLO already, presuming there aren't any changes or additions.

You've gone and said it again, stop spreading this misinformation.

Vernon WW

Angus WW wrote: »

You've gone and said it again, stop spreading this misinformation.

Correct me so:

7 vs 3 - lynch wrong

6 vs 3

munch

5 vs 3

lynch wrong

4 vs 3

Munch for parity.

Not taking into account Knuckles shots but looking at the current game state on this island.

Vernon WW

I'm aware that the win cons state:

For the baddies to win the game they have to ensure any other evil sides are dead and gain parity with the village.

However, based off the current game state on this island which is the only one we have influence over my above calculations are correct.

Angus WW

Mary WW wrote: »

Only half of the Sonic World inhabitants have posted. Technically it is Day 0 but then again the first lynch is today unless subject to change happens. Hopefully more get on anyway as we really need something to vote off

Technically it is Day 1 with a lynch happening at 9pm. After that comes night 1.

Angus WW

Vernon WW wrote: »

I'm aware that the win cons state:



However, based off the current game state on this island which is the only one we have influence over my above calculations are correct.

Your sentence 'munch for parity' in your scribblings above, can you explain why you ended there?
That is not game over and you know it.
So, you are either deliberately lying and spreading misinformation, or innocently dimwitted, but, I am struggling to place you as the former.

Phil WW

(I wish it wasn’t you Vernon that this was aimed at but since you’re the one saying it...)

I personally hate the “we can’t afford a mislynch” narratives. It’s very, very often one wolves push because it makes them look like concerned villagers, and often feels designed to both pressure people into making harsh decisions, AND can hurt morale of a village.

I’d way rather be upbeat about our chances than be trying to push the idea the village are in trouble already.

Vernon WW

Angus WW wrote: »

Your sentence 'munch for parity' in your scribblings above, can you explain why you ended there?
That is not game over and you know it.
So, you are either deliberately lying and spreading misinformation, or innocently dimwitted, but, I am struggling to place you as the former.

As I said, based off current gamestate, there's only one evil team on this island so they merely have to gain parity.

That might change, but based off the OP and win cons that's my reading of the situation as it stands.

Vernon WW

Phil WW wrote: »

(I wish it wasn’t you Vernon that this was aimed at but since you’re the one saying it...)

I personally hate the “we can’t afford a mislynch” narratives. It’s very, very often one wolves push because it makes them look like concerned villagers, and often feels designed to both pressure people into making harsh decisions, AND can hurt morale of a village.

I’d way rather be upbeat about our chances than be trying to push the idea the village are in trouble already.

Where did I say the village was in trouble? Merely pointing out the gamestate as I see it

Angus WW

Vernon WW wrote: »

As I said, based off current gamestate, there's only one evil team on this island so they merely have to gain parity.

That might change, but based off the OP and win cons that's my reading of the situation as it stands.

So, you admit its the former then, you are deliberately lying.

From OP "We have 20 players"
On this island is 10 players.
For the baddies to win the game they have to ensure any other evil sides are dead and gain parity with the village.

Current game state is not based of one island.

Vernon WW

Angus WW wrote: »

So, you admit its the former then, you are deliberately lying.

From OP "We have 20 players"
On this island is 10 players.
For the baddies to win the game they have to ensure any other evil sides are dead and gain parity with the village.

Current game state is not based of one island.

The only game state we can affect is this island at present, it's really best to treat it as two seperate games until such a time as they combine (if at all, but it's more than likely given the win cons).

Where are you getting the lying from? I've stated on numerous occasions that I'm speaking in terms of this island only. I'll admit I may have misspoke regarding losing should the above scenario happen alright.

Angus WW

Out of the 6 known baddies, does anyone know these games enough to know which baddies are likely teamed up.
How do we know that the 3 baddies on this island are on the same team?

Vernon WW

Angus WW wrote: »

Out of the 6 known baddies, does anyone know these games enough to know which baddies are likely teamed up.
How do we know that the 3 baddies on this island are on the same team?

I'd know both games pretty well. I think the three baddies in our OP given the pics etc are here on this island in Sonic World, however they are Mario based baddies.

Bowser, Wario and Waluigi are all baddies in Mario games (although Wario does feature in his own games sometimes not as a baddie)

On the flipside, Sonic based baddies are in Mushroom kingdom so that's likely the Mario VS Sonic element of the game.

Angus WW

Vernon WW wrote: »

The only game state we can affect is this island at present, it's really best to treat it as two seperate games until such a time as they combine (if at all, but it's more than likely given the win cons).

Where are you getting the lying from? I've stated on numerous occasions that I'm speaking in terms of this island only. I'll admit I may have misspoke regarding losing should the above scenario happen alright.

The game has 20 players, you cannot speak about current game state by only speaking of this island. That would be current island state.

Vernon WW

Angus WW wrote: »

The game has 20 players, you cannot speak about current game state by only speaking of this island. That would be current island state.

We'll agree to differ on that one, given we have no influence over Mushroom Kingdom

Angus WW

Vernon WW wrote: »

We'll agree to differ on that one, given we have no influence over Mushroom Kingdom

No influence?? So if I was to state that in my opinion, Doris is Wolfy, you think that would have no influence over there?

Phil WW

Angus WW wrote: »

The game has 20 players, you cannot speak about current game state by only speaking of this island. That would be current island state.

So I’m super worried about Vernon, BUT I do think he’s along the right lines in terms of playing this as a 10 person event. If/when a merge happens, we can worry bout numbers then, but I do think in the mean time, the focus should be on this as a 7 vs 3 game.

Vernon WW

Angus WW wrote: »

No influence?? So if I was to state that in my opinion, Doris is Wolfy, you think that would have no influence over there?

Hard to tell, and not something that concerns me until such a time as the islands are united.

Vernon WW

I just wish the others would speak up:

Brendan WW
Clodagh WW
Gabriel WW
Katie WW
Liam WW

Otherwise the four of us posting (and Desmond with his two posts late last night) will likely end up tearing strips off each other all day.

Angus WW

Vernon WW wrote: »

Just checked the lynch form. No sign of No Lynch there, so we're gonna need people (particularly the villagers) to speak up with a lynch tonight.

As I said last night, two mislynches and we've lost so hit wrong tonight and we are at LYLO already, presuming there aren't any changes or additions.

Are you suggesting here we lynch into the mutes. I'm not against it, but how do we decide between the mutes?

Vernon WW

Be back later. I'm off to play some FM and shout at the TV for a couple of hours. Hopefully there'll be more life here then!

Vernon WW

Angus WW wrote: »

Are you suggesting here we lynch into the mutes. I'm not against it, but how do we decide between the mutes?

Before I go - I don't know to be honest. I'm uncomfortable with Phil's entrance to the thread and follow up responses but he is at least posting which is more than can be said for the others.

That being said, a few might still not be aware of there being a lynch tonight (subject to change), and treating it as the usual lazy Sunday.

It's difficult without any form of input. And I hate voting randomly

Mary WW

You can tell who isn’t a noob and played the Jurassic park game as they are referring to mushroom kingdom as the other island.

Vernon WW

Mary WW wrote: »

You can tell who isn’t a noob and played the Jurassic park game as they are referring to mushroom kingdom as the other island.

I'm not quite sure what the point of this is

Mary WW

Vernon WW wrote: »

I'm not quite sure what the point of this is

Want to suggest it is fluff? Want to cast aspersions on myself? Or overly defensive like with Phil's gif comment earier as you were again one of the people refering to it as such.



We have a number of new players this game. Anyone who claims to be a noob later but was referring to the other thread as an other island is talking bull imo as they most likely are calling it that due to the JP experience. That was all

Vernon WW

Mary WW wrote:

We have a number of new players this game. Anyone who claims to be a noob later but was referring to the other thread as an other island is talking bull imo as they most likely are calling it that due to the JP experience. That was all

Grand but no one seems to be claiming to be a new player at the moment so I'm just wondering why mention it now.

Mary WW

Vernon WW wrote: »

Grand but no one seems to be claiming to be a new player at the moment so I'm just wondering why mention it now.

Might have forgotten about it later, thought it note worthy and Conversation gets people talking. Unfortunately it only got already talkative, argueably a little defensive you talking though. I will be busy this evening and plan to watch the rugby before that so am really hoping the rest of our Island starts talking now.



Right now you and Phil seem sus of each other
Maybe Angus is sus of you, it's harder to tell


apart from that it's impossible to tell, which really does not help given what the odds already are for hitting a wolf on the first lynch. Wouldn't be surprised at all if Wolves stayed quiet and allowed everyone to get at each other especially while they have safety in numbers in terms of us having plenty of quiet folk at this point.

Mary WW

Angus WW wrote: »

No influence?? So if I was to state that in my opinion, Doris is Wolfy, you think that would have no influence over there?

apparently it would as it was just mentioned that on that thread that Doris was called out on this one. Whether the person there did so as it gave them an easy chance to cast shade or for other reasons who knows though

Vernon WW

Mary WW wrote:

apart from that it's impossible to tell, which really does not help given what the odds already are for hitting a wolf on the first lynch. Wouldn't be surprised at all if Wolves stayed quiet and allowed everyone to get at each other especially while they have safety in numbers in terms of us having plenty of quiet folk at this point.

Well if there is a lynch tonight, if they don't post but put a vote in they'd be highly suspect would you agree?

I've no issue going after the low/no posters but as there are so many at this point in time (as Angus pointed out), who do you pick? And based off what :pac:

For example if I said I wanted to lynch Liam, what would your response be to that?

Desmond WW

Hi Guys

Desmond WW

If we have peeks, then I doubt we'll have a priest. What role is a chaos wolf?

Mary WW

Hi Des, anything posted peek your interest so far.

Vernon WW wrote: »

Well if there is a lynch tonight, if they don't post but put a vote in they'd be highly suspect would you agree?

I've no issue going after the low/no posters but as there are so many at this point in time (as Angus pointed out), who do you pick? And based off what :pac:

For example if I said I wanted to lynch Liam, what would your response be to that?

Well that was my point about there being safety in numbers for the silent posters atm. As long as so many are silent it's a safe spot for someone hiding as there is nothing to differentiate between them and I would doubt any one of them would get a majority of the vote.



Hopefully at least a few of them get involved before then anyway.

Vernon WW

Desmond WW wrote:

If we have peeks, then I doubt we'll have a priest. What role is a chaos wolf?

Presumably related to the chaos emeralds. Of which there are seven in total for those not in the know regarding the games

Vernon WW

Mary WW wrote:

Well that was my point about there being safety in numbers for the silent posters atm. As long as so many are silent it's a safe spot for someone hiding as there is nothing to differentiate between them and I would doubt any one of them would get a majority of the vote.

True. Grand so we're lynching Liam.

Katie WW

afternoon folks

Mary WW

Vernon WW wrote: »

True. Grand so we're lynching Liam.

Well there is one less silent person with him now

Katie WW wrote: »

afternoon folks

Welcome Katie, what's your opinion of Sonic World so far?

Katie WW

Mary WW wrote: »

Well there is one less silent person with him now






Welcome Katie, what's your opinion of Sonic World so far?

reasing thru now. all standard with exception of those crystals

Angus WW

Mary WW wrote: »

apparently it would as it was just mentioned that on that thread that Doris was called out on this one. Whether the person there did so as it gave them an easy chance to cast shade or for other reasons who knows though

Well then, there's another misspeak by Vernon. Having no influence on the other island/world/thread/universe is not true.

Game is 20 players over two threads, yes, our main focus for player on this thread should be on this thread, but wilfully ignoring the other thread is not getting a full read of the game. Calling this thread only, the current game state is incorrect.

Desmond WW

Just catching up on what I missed now. I have the following tentative reads, take wth a pinch of salt as you see fit.

I lean Vernon and Angus village. Even with their bickering. Their discussions looks more like two paranoid villagers trying to work things out.

Mary and Phill I'd lean wolf right now. Vague statements until prodded in to more discussion by Vernon. Mary commenting about the island/newbies observation appears like a wolf who has been pulled in to a conversation she doesn't want trying to be useful. Also defending Phil when Phil should be defending himself, leans me at putting those two together.

Kate pops up when the idea of lynching non-posters pops up but that could be coincidence.

Any comments?