Cheltenham Day 4 - Friday 14 March

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Hard to believe this is for the final day!

Johner

I think Tiger Tap Tap at 14s with Hills looks decent value in the Triumph. Got within a neck of Sir Erec on debut, got boxed in next time, I'd expect a better showing from him here.

WicklowBrave

RW on Bellshill, PT on ABP, David Mullins stays on Kemboy.

Anyone who backed Carefully Selected in the Albert Bartlett antepost you will get your money back. Was declared but balloted out.

TheMilkyPirate

Sir erec/Dallas de pictons double for me tomorrow. 8.45/1

Shanee.

Shattered Love day......

Angliru

Pic D'Orhy is my big hope. I also believe in the impossible dream part 2 with Thistlecrack.

JP Liz V1

Kemboy and Invitation Only so far only for me

Any recommendations?

Nulty

1.30 Triumph
Main one is Gardens Of Babylon ew antepost. Took an early price NRNB on Pic D'Orhy at 10s.

2.10 County
Big bet on Leoncavallo at 25s and 20s. Have Ch'tibello antepost at 25s as well but hoping Leoncavallo can make it a big festival in terms of profit.

2.50 Albert Bartlett
Dinons ew @ 25s but bigger bet on Rhinestone. I am keeping the faith with Rhinestone but antepost prices aren't looking genius as he's about the same price as when I backed him.

3.30 Gold Cup
Been with Clan Des Obeaux since he won the King George and will stick with him.

4.10 Foxhunters
With Shantou Flyer but concerned the jockey emptied him on his last start. All the money is for Caid Du Berlais and he looks like he'll get his ground tomorrow. Will probably back him in the morning.

4.50 Grand Annual
Took Le Prezien couple of weeks ago but I think conditions will be different this year than when he won last year. I'm all in on Mind's Eye with big prices, another who could make it a profitable festival.

5.30 Martin Pipe
Will have to have a saver on Dallas Des Pictons but I've taken 66/1 about Casa Tall. Will look closer for something else

The Hoarse Whisperer

Backed Al boum. Hopeful of a good run but whether he'll be good enough or not I don't know.

The_Kew_Tour

I know he ran very meh last time but Runrized in the first at 80/1 has caught my eye

Pedigree is there too

dave81

Probably go BD on Sir Erec. Haven't had a big one yet. Big in my world is low 3 figures!! I've bank rolled so I've treated it as spent already. Gamble responsibly and all that malarkey.

Allaho. Of course I lost my Antepost money backing him for Ballymore. Doh.. Will back him and cover with Commander.

Uncello Conti. Another nice bet (unless I get toasted in first!) I'll throw a nice bet on him. Need to study that race though. Not as easy as other years.

Think I'll throw 50 on Percy and something on Native or CDO. Really annoyed I didn't cover Frodon today, so I'm not listening to anyone panning Paul Nicholls chance in this race. Not sure yet. Could just back Percy. This race needs something special, and Percy might be it, with his bizarre campaign and sheer talent. Percy is a legend to this forum over the years and by Jesus will I be shouting him home. I could see Anabale Fly running well but won't back him.

I'll lose hugely on the handicaps, although I'm due to hit one soon. Good few seconds already.

By the end of Friday, I'll have lost 500, drank 20 pints, talked a phenomenal amount of sxxt, but in typical style, I'll have fun and leave it all on the pitch!

Good luck.

Father Hernandez

Gone for a long shot life changer for tomorrow, will have a few singles & ews too, first day off watching Cheltenham this year, pub for 1

Sir Erec - Triumph
Nadaitak - AB
Bellshill - GC
Dallas Des Pictons - MP

pugw

Anything to take on the fav in the first, he has all the class but just can’t have him at 4/5! Fingers still sore after apples om last years triumph!

On early doors, Dinons, Percy and thistlecrack at decent prices!

yaboya1

I probably won't have a bet in the race, but I predict Sir Erec will win this easier than Our Conor won his Triumph.

HarshOstrich

I’m struggling to see what everybody else seems to see in sir erec, he hasn’t been overly impressive to date, If he try’s to go from the front I expect Paul Nichols horse Quel Destin to go with him and try rough him up.

Chesty08

Where can you find current Top Jock & Trainer standings?

yaboya1

HarshOstrich wrote: »

I’m struggling to see what everybody else seems to see in sir erec, he hasn’t been overly impressive to date, If he try’s to go from the front I expect Paul Nichols horse Quel Destin to go with him and try rough him up.

I usually try and avoid favourites, but there are some u cannot get away from. I think this is one. I expect the most impressive win of the week. A Plus Tard will have to accept the runner up prize.

Angliru

Hole **** Sir Erec is odds on now completely missed that. Will make it sweeter when Pic absolutely blows by!

Motivator

It’s not usually a race I get involved in but Sir Erec is an absolute max bet for me. Nobody has a better crop of juveniles than Joseph this year and he knows how good this horse is. Justin Carthy’s horse was due to run here and they switched him to the Fred Winter - how good could Sir Erec be if Band Of Outlaws was rerouted to avoid him?

His two runs over hurdles so far have been excellent and he’s only going to keep improving. I think he’ll relish the hill tomorrow and his flat races will have galvanised him. He’s a tough horse for four and if you look back on some of his flat runs as well as his maiden at Leopardstown, he’s a hardy horse. He has taken to jumping really well and we could see something special tomorrow. For me to get involved in a Triumph Hurdle he has to be exciting and I really do think he is.

piplip87

Quel Destin
Eclair dear Beafu EW
Allaho
Bellshill, Thistlecrack EW
Road to Rome
Let Prezian

L15 Ew
Whiskey Sour
Commander of Fleet
Percy
Ucello Conti

Outlaw Pete

Sir Erec is a good horse for sure (was 3rd to Stradivarius as Ascot after all) but over hurdles I would for sure question the form he has shown and how highly he is being spoken of on the back of it.

As I was saying the other day on the Champion Hurdle thread, with regards to Apple Jade's form at Leopardstown, easy wins on that track are being given ratings that I would absolutely question. I still think Sire Erec warrants being the fav, but odds on is ridiculous.

Worth noting also that when there was some cut in the ground Tiger Tap Tap ran him to a neck. Last time out Elliot's horse kept TTT trapped on the rails and Ruby had a few looks between his legs as if he wasn't all that bothered about gaining revenge that day, perhaps they were more than happy to wait for tomorrow's race for that.

I see TTT as a great e/w or place bet tomorrow.

madmoose

Can see Dorhy going well until it blows up with a lack of a run.

paddy no 11

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

Sir Erec is a good horse for sure (was 3rd to Stradivarius as Ascot after all) but over hurdles I would for sure question the form he has shown and how highly he is being spoken of on the back of it.

As I was saying the other day on the Champion Hurdle thread, with regards to Apple Jade's form at Leopardstown, easy wins on that track are being given ratings that I would absolutely question. I still think Sire Erec warrants being the fav, but odds on is ridiculous.

Worth noting also that when there was some cut in the ground Tiger Tap Tap ran him to a neck. Last time out Elliot's horse kept TTT trapped on the rails and Ruby had a few looks between his legs as if he wasn't all that bothered about gaining revenge that day, perhaps they were more than happy to wait for tomorrow's race for that.

I see TTT as a great e/w or place bet tomorrow.

Erec had him held all the way there but agree with yer conclusion TTT place is a better bet than erec odds on

spurshero

Lads would anybody have any idea of the total winning distance lengths wise over the first 3 days or where to get it

Outlaw Pete

The Racing Post has the aggregate winning distances of every meeting up around 20 minutes or so after the last race.

Tuesday: 52.5
Wednesday: 29.1
Thursday: 11.15

Andrew00

Absolute disaster of a festival for me.. Looking forward to Aintree and Punchestown now tho

hefferboi

At work here in the pub and a lad comes up to me and says he has a tip for me.

“Native River at Cheltenham, think he’s on at 3.30 but not sure. My brother works in Joseph O Brien’s and he said it’s expected to go well”

What can you say to that...

Andrew00

hefferboi wrote: »

At work here in the pub and a lad comes up to me and says he has a tip for me.

“Native River at Cheltenham, think he’s on at 3.30 but not sure. My brother works in Joseph O Brien’s and he said it’s expected to go well”

What can you say to that...

These are the people we have to put up with this week

Dwarf.Shortage

hefferboi wrote: »

At work here in the pub and a lad comes up to me and says he has a tip for me.

“Native River at Cheltenham, think he’s on at 3.30 but not sure. My brother works in Joseph O Brien’s and he said it’s expected to go well”

What can you say to that...

TBH I think you just have to say "jaysis are ya serious? thanks for that"

Obviously a very recreational horse racing fan who gets caught up in it for Cheltenham and there's no point nipping back at him.

Brings that saying to mind that "a wise man never argues with a fool for fear he'll drag you down to his level and beat you with experience".

JP Liz V1

Just for Pat Laffan's demise, I going e/w on Cut the Mustard

spurshero

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

The Racing Post has the aggregate winning distances of every meeting up around 20 minutes or so after the last race.

Tuesday: 52.5
Wednesday: 29.1
Thursday: 11.15

Thanks a mill

selectamatic

Ladbrokes have betting suspended on native river at the minute.

Rumours on twitter of it being a possible n/r

Dwarf.Shortage

selectamatic wrote: »

Ladbrokes have betting suspended on native river at the minute.

Rumours on twitter of it being a possible n/r

Wonder why, carrying an injury into festival and vet not happy maybe? was co-fav earlier, would take a lot for an owner/trainer to pull a co-fav out of the gold cup.

selectamatic

Dwarf.Shortage wrote: »

Wonder why, carrying an injury into festival and vet not happy maybe? was co-fav earlier, would take a lot for an owner/trainer to pull a co-fav out of the gold cup.

I've no idea what's happening tbh.

Paddy and Boyles still have him up.

Very unusual.

howareyakid

Derrinross fits the profile of an Albert Bartlett winner for me. He’s proven over three miles, won’t mind the ground and has plenty of experience. I think he looks a really interesting bet at 10/1.

IAMAMORON

1. Quel Destin
2. Mr Adjudicator
3. Birchdale
4. Kemboy
5. Hazel Hill
6. Marracudja
7. Getareason

Good luck to everyone, I can't believe it is nearly over.

gazza1

Sir Erec
Mr Adjudicator
Commander of Fleet
Presenting Percy
Stand up and Fight
Minds Eye
Dallas Des Pictons

GL all

Slipperydodger

13:30
Sir Erec 
 
14:10
Ch'tibello 
E/W
8/1

14:50
Lisnagar Oscar 
Single 
6/1

16:10
Ucello Conti 
Single 
4/1

16:50
Not Another Muddle 
E/W
6/1


Ucello Conti 
Sir Erec
Not Another Muddle
E/W Treble 

Had a good week so far with 4 winners today but betting small. Hopefully, make something worth shouting about tomorrow! Good Luck everyone!!

Slipperydodger

Slipperydodger wrote: »

13:30
Sir Erec 
 
14:10
Ch'tibello 
E/W
8/1

14:50
Lisnagar Oscar 
Single 
6/1

16:10
Ucello Conti 
Single 
4/1

16:50
Not Another Muddle 
E/W
6/1


Ucello Conti 
Sir Erec
Not Another Muddle
E/W Treble 

Had a good week so far with 4 winners today but betting small. Hopefully, make something worth shouting about tomorrow! Good Luck everyone!!

I am still undecided on the Gold Cup! Will see how I'm looking at 15.00 before deciding. Nothing jumping out at me too much.

BorneTobyWilde

1.30 Tiger Tap Tap 9-1 3 places
2.10 Western Ryder 16-1 5 places
2.50 First Approach 40-1 4 places
3.30 Definitly Red 66-1 4 places
4.10 Shantou Flyer 8-1 4 places
4.50 Theo 25-1 5 places
5.30 If You Say Run 20-1 5 places

TheMilkyPirate

Hazel hill in the foxhunters. Looked a monster last time out 11/2

dk6dk6

What’s going on with Native river, drifting badly. Wonder is there something to these rumours?

Always Tired

Nicholls very bullish on Quel Destin on his blog. I already have SIR EREC 60.00 at evs placed wed nite. He looks like a banker but so have plenty horses that flop in the festival. Still, Joseph O'Brien had a good winner yesterday and the vibes are good after the setback which i think those things are often overblown. Personally i think if he stays upright he wins

Nicholls also sounds very positive about Clan Des Obeaux, actually mentioned Kauto Star when talking about him. That's a good sign I'd say. Stuck 28.00 on him to bag the GC at 11/2

hefferboi

Was waiting on Epatante in a double and Lucky 15 for big money. I didn’t cash out and let it ride. Ended the day on a bitter note. Praying I’ll have a Good Friday to end the festival on a high.

My bets:
Big single on Sir Erec

L15:
1.30 Sir Erec 4-5
3.30 Clan Des Obeaux 5-1
4.50 Magic Saint 7-2
5.30 Dallas Des Pictons 11-4

Treble:
1.30 Cheltenham Sir Erec 4-5
3.15 Fakenham Sideways 6-4
4.20 Lingfield Distant Mirage 13-8

Treble:
1.30 Sir Erec 4-5
4.50 Magic Saint 7-2
5.30 Dallas Des Pictons 11-4

EW Patent:
2.10 Mr Adjudicator 12-1
2.50 Derinross 10-1
4.10 Pacha Du Polder 18-1

Sir Erec will make or break me.

Always Tired

Other wee flutters, mostly Elliott yokes:
2:10 Eclair de beufeu 10/1 5.00
2:50 Commander of Fleet 7/1 8.00, Allaho 15/2 8.00
4:10 Ucello Conti 4/1 10.00
4:50 Not Another Muddle 6/1 6.00
5:30 Dallas des Pictons 7/2 16.00

GC day the only day I back something in every race, looks a cracking card altogether.

handsfree2

2.10 Western Rider and pingshou
2.50 lisnagor Oscar
3.30 elegant escape
4.10 shantou flyer
4.50 not another muddle
5.30 undecided

EPAndlee

13:30 Tigar Tap Tap
14:10 Cut The Mustard
14:50 Derrinross
15:30 Al Boum Photo
16:10 Hazel Hill
16:50 Whatswrongwithyou
17:30 Coolanly

Rock Lesnar

1.30 Quel Destin e/w
2.10 Eclair de beaufeau e/w
2.50 Commander of fleet e/w
3.30 Presenting Percy
4.10 Ucello Conti
4.50 Not another muddle e/w
5.30 Dallas des pictons

BumperD

Few fancies. Dallas des Pictons good bet for me today given his firm working out very well with Ballymore winner City Island.

Derrinross and Nadaitak in the Albert Bartlett. I guess Sir Erec wins the first. Chibtello has has wind done and fancied by skeletons in a preview but I’d prefer moyhaded as the prices given he’s proven on cd for a place small stake in that
Brelan das and Le prezien in grand annual must have squeaks.
Pascher de polder goes again in foxhuhunter so I’ll give him a go for the 3 ( should be 4 in a row). A little nervous for Percy in the big one all the big guns are there. Invitation only looks a big price given his tyestes win but hopefully Percy can create history

Good luck today

dk6dk6

Kemboy for the Gold Cup for me.

Slattsy

Today is Dallas Des Pictons Day.

My nap of festival!!