Cheltenham Day 4 - Friday 14 March

The Tetrarch

Perhaps they should automatically withdraw a horse if he has a problem before the start?
The farrier did an excellent job, his work was filmed.
Of course the incident might have nothing to do with what happened before the race.
Horatio Nelson ran in the 2006 English Derby after doubts about him before the start (can't remember if it was a shoe problem or a hint of lameness), and he pulled up in the race and was put down.

Always Tired

I had a bad feeling once the shoe came off and the ITV muppets were saying some lad put 10k on him right before that happened. But never thought that would happen.

I'm sure people will say it had no effect but I don't believe that. Had a bruise in the week leading up and then the shoe comes off. They should have pulled him out.

Slattsy

SteelyDanJalapeno wrote: »

Without wanting to cause any tension, as a once a year punter, I find it very hard to justify racing at the cost of something like that.

Stop punting once a year for a start.

ZiabR

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Can someone explain why a broken leg results in a horse needing to be put down?

Couple of reasons.

1) Very hard to set a leg and not have the horse want to stand on it
2) Healing takes very long time due to the above
3) Horse may loose confidence when approaching jumps
3) Leg will not be as strong as before and as such the horse will loose pace as muscle and tendons can get torn during the break

It is just not feasible to try and repair a break so in 95% of cases the animal is put down.

TheMilkyPirate

SteelyDanJalapeno wrote: »

Without wanting to cause any tension, as a once a year punter, I find it very hard to justify racing at the cost of something like that.

It is what it is. Everyone knows the risks involved with the sport. No point having that conversation now it's been had hundreds of times before.

SteelyDanJalapeno

Slattsy wrote: »

Stop punting once a year for a start.

:rolleyes: Surely I can do what I like with my money?

The Tetrarch

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

A horses legs are so complex I guess.

The problem is a horse will try to get up and use his broken leg.
The only solution that ever worked was to suspend the horse in a sling for weeks/months as was done with Mill Reef, but few horses will cooperate.

Thepoet85

Slattsy wrote:

Stop punting once a year for a start.

Wise up.

WicklowBrave

SteelyDanJalapeno wrote: »

Without wanting to cause any tension, as a once a year punter, I find it very hard to justify racing at the cost of something like that.

Thoroughbreds are the only farm animal bred and reared not for slaughter. There is less than 2% risk that they die on a racecourse. There is always going to be risk involved but I believe the positives of the sport far outweigh the negatives.

ZiabR

Slattsy wrote: »

Stop punting once a year for a start.

Not sure what you mean by that? Surely it makes no difference how often someone chooses to place bets?

munster87

It’s raining a River load!!

prettyboy81

munster87 wrote: »

It’s raining a River load!!

Earlier in the day pre recorded part of the show.

munster87

prettyboy81 wrote: »

Earlier in the day pre recorded part of the show.

What a disappointment!

Chesty08

STFU about Byronys win ITV

RivetingRoger

Shed a tear. Buzz gone. Emotions all over the place. Heart broken.
Desperate

Shanee.

Horrible about Sir Eric. RIP

tinpib

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

Paddy Power's (and some others, especially online) allow 'place only' doubles, trebles etc by the way, and so you don't always have to waste money on the win part of an e/w bet if what you really fancy is your three (or however many) horses just to place in their races.

No way! Didn't know that. Cheers Pete.

Always Tired

jkbkhhho7t wrote: »

What's more upsetting is how quiet and proud he looked while getting his shoe done, he didn't deserve what followed

I agree. It made the whole thing worse having those closeups. I don't have horses but I have a dog who I groom myself and always stands very good for it, she's getting an extra belly rub now.

Now ITV scrambling to bring the mood back up it's pathetic. I'm switching it off for now, probably put it back on for the Gold Cup but that really does dampen the spirits.

Angliru

Yeah don't think I'll perk up now until the GC. Shocking.

robwen

Didn't appreciate the severity of it at the time, rewound it back it was horrible

TheRiverman

The jockeys should all object to having a camera and microphone stuck in their faces with a presenter talking ****e down at the start.
ITV coverage gets more appalling by the minute.Brian Gleeson who has some common sense on RTE has allowed himself to become a complete Muppet on ITV.Awful stuff.
So sad to see a beautiful horse gone in minutes.

Panrich

Angliru wrote: »

Yeah don't think I'll perk up now until the GC. Shocking.

If I hadn't all my bets done, I'd find it hard to look at doing it now for some reason. This one hit's hard as he was such a lovely horse.

Tomw86

RIP - Hate seeing that.

This is the risk though with any type of sport. Dogs, horses and even humans have died doing what they love.

Not saying its ok, but it is a risk for elite sports persons/animals.

The Tetrarch

Thank goodness the second race went ok.
A repeat of what happened in the first race would have been disastrous for racing.

ScummyMan

Jack Kennedy went very early on Eclair De Beaufeu there

dave81

Lost first two races. Down a nice bit, but dont really give a b ol lix, seeing that horse break its leg is heart breaking. For a full stallion, he was such a pet. Would have been nice to have a Cheltenham winner breeding Cheltenham winners instead of Epsom winners breeding cast offs not good enough to run on the flat

Always Tired

The next race came up so quick I didn't get the chance to switch it off.
Eclair goes to the front at the last and promptly unseats.

Really wish I had switched it off now.

Shemale

I am this side of puking in my mouth with the way racing has turned into aren't women brilliant. Harry Skelton rides a winner and it's nearly more about his fiancee, because she is a woman!!

Tomw86

ScummyMan wrote: »

Jack Kennedy went very early on Eclair De Beaufeu there

has happened with several of Gordons horses this week - they don't seem to seeing out the trip!

WicklowBrave

Shemale wrote: »

I am this side of puking in my mouth with the way racing has turned into aren't women brilliant. Harry Skelton rides a winner and it's nearly more about his fiancee, because she is a woman!!

Yeah, it’s awful. ITV turning it into a pantomime. Just focus on the racing, instead of trying to make a story out of everything . Chamberlin would drive you mad.

Slattsy

Commander of Fleet here. Backed it a while back at 7s and didn't shorten as I anticipated!

Loved how he jumped and finished the race last time. Everything in his favour today so no excuse. Its a good race though. Serious each way bet for me.

Outlaw Pete

Ruby' s turned into Jamie Spencer. Rides all horses the same way these days.

Paulzx

Shemale wrote: »

I am this side of puking in my mouth with the way racing has turned into aren't women brilliant. Harry Skelton rides a winner and it's nearly more about his fiancee, because she is a woman!!

It's actually patronising as F&*k to them. There's 2 types of jockeys. Good ones and bad ones. Not male and female. They should be pissed off at the complete obsession with their sex.

...............and don't even start me with Chapman and the poxy "social stable"

Clondalphian

On Derrinross at 14s and Rockpoint at 33s
Hoping Rockpoint can repeat what Kilbricken storm done last year

Joe_ Public

Fair play noel fehily. Brilliant jockey who had to cope with terrible injuries. Silver Jaro - never forget!

TheMilkyPirate

Lisnagar Oscar for me here. has the right profile

handsfree2

TheMilkyPirate wrote: »

Lisnagar Oscar for me here. has the right profile

Fingers crossed for him

Lucy8080

Win L.31.

Derrin ross
Native River
Magic Saint
Dallas des Pictons

E.W. patent.
Rhinestone
Gino Trail
Daybreak Boy

E.W. patent.
Thistlecrack
Road To Rome
Brelan D'as

E.w. double

Derrin Ross
Native River.

Didn't post my selections tuesday and thursday,and lost both days.
Posted wednesday and won.

So ,fingers crossed. Gl all.

Lucy8080

That was a lovely piece about Danoli. Loved that horse.

handsfree2

Clondalphian wrote: »

On Derrinross at 14s and Rockpoint at 33s
Hoping Rockpoint can repeat what Kilbricken storm done last year

Rockpoint was super impressive at the Dec meeting but I've backed a few tizzard horses and they've stank out the place.

munster87

Rhinestone to turn the tables on COF

Tomw86

Birchdale, Derrinross and Dinions for me!

Dionions massively underrated

Ashleigh1986

I have watched the last 4 days of itv coverage .
Way to many presenters , each trying to get the better of the other .
Any sports show starts with the head presenter .
Chamberlain isn't up to it .
Chapman is a joke .
Harvey ain't much better .
Cumani shouldn't be let near any national hunt programme .
Any racing programme needs a very good head presenter / an ex jockey / someone in the betting ring that knows their stuff .
Racing is been diluted by these pc bull**** pieces .

Shemale

Harvey is a Grade A geebag, mentioning Walsh who is showing his horse the hurdle "who had that unfortunate incident earlier", just before he starts a race.

Cumani is now Cesc as they are all BFF, McCoy and Cumani are the only two that should be presenting.

jkbkhhho7t

Absolute ****e from Ruby there, allaho comfortably beat minella indo but like everything else he rode this week taking the longest way around

Slattsy

Slattsy wrote: »

Commander of Fleet here. Backed it a while back at 7s and didn't shorten as I anticipated!

Loved how he jumped and finished the race last time. Everything in his favour today so no excuse. Its a good race though. Serious each way bet for me.

****ing 50s shot beats me!

munster87

Tomw86 wrote: »

Birchdale, Derrinross and Dinions for me!

Dionions massively underrated

Rhinestone never got going even with the slow pace

Great win again for Blackmore.
Had heard strong word for Dinons awhile back, backed it antepost, they’ll be disappointed with that.

handsfree2

Bookies benefits today so far

Shanotheslayer

What even is this day

Andrew00

Hindsight is a good thing but,

How was that allowed to go off at 50/1 ? Wtf it was way to big

I didn’t back it either