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Dublin More Expensive to Rent in Than Paris

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  • Registered Users Posts: 10,684 ✭✭✭✭Samuel T. Cogley


    Subutai wrote: »
    Tenants who break a fixed term lease already do face a penalty. The cost of assignment can be levied in the tenants, in the RTB case Oglesby v Miszkiel & Anor the landlord obtained an award of €490.77 from tenants who breached a fixed term lease by assignment for his costs in checking references and the preparation of new contracts.

    Tenants who simply leave without assigning their tenancy are also liable for the cost of that to the landlord, i.e. the loss of rent between tenants. This can be retained from the deposit.

    We were referring to a proper framework for long term leases. For example 10-20 years.


  • Registered Users Posts: 293 ✭✭Subutai


    DubCount wrote: »
    If there is 2 months rent arrears, the Landlord engages a "Huisser", who manages the process directly to the courts. Judges automatically grant an eviction date for 2 months after the court hearing, unless a credible repayment plan for arrears can be agreed. Landlords can also reasonably collect on rent arrears through the courts, unless the tenant becomes bankrupt (when tenant assets are sold and apportioned to creditors).

    There is a clear distinction between lease agreements that are designed to be long term (unfurnished) and those that are intended to be short term (furnished).

    Termination for sale is allowable, but there are mechanisms whereby the tenant must be notified of the sales conditions in advance so that they can appeal if the terms are not realistic or above market value etc.

    I'm not saying that the French system is the holy grail for landlords, but at least they tenants have responsibilities there that they are expected to adhere to. The Irish system is a charter for rogue tenants to ride the system with impunity - and all tenants in Ireland are paying a premium to facilitate the rogues.


    The framework here also looks great if you simply set out what the mechanism is on paper. We all know the reality of an under resourced arbitration system and court system makes the practice different from the theory. If Huissers were part of the system here the forum would be brimming with complaints about them, delays in the process, getting caught in the winter break, appeals, and judges who are biased towards tenants.


    Tenants are expected to adhere to their obligations here also, which are greater than those in France. Unless you are renting to indigent tenants it is not difficult to enforce them. If you are renting to indigent tenants then your problem will be the same the world over.


  • Registered Users Posts: 19,413 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    Work colleague renting a brand new build one bed apartment in Glasgow -£400 per month. Be over double that in Dublin if you get even get one. Insanity


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