Is Boards.ie complicit?

Yer Da sells Avon

It's complicit in the same way as I'm complicit in rising sea levels every time I take a slash.

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

In fairness, this is fairly accurate - boards isn't 'overrun' by alt-right types. But there is a significant number, far in excess of their presence in normal society. And the degree of anti-immigrant threads and comments is increasing over time.

I don't like the term 'alt-right' - it's an American thing (coined by white supremacists who wanted to give themselves a snazzy new name) and not in any way relevant here, despite the best efforts of weirdos to adopt their language (I've literally been called a 'cuck' and a 'soy boy' by posters on here - I think one of them was from Tipperary, which I found hilarious, imagining those words being uttered in that accent).

I don't think it would be controversial to suggest that there are a few posters on here who use the same kind of language as that terrorist in Christchurch and are unhealthily preoccupied with race and immigration. Not many, but certainly more than in the past, and way more than the average person will encounter in normal society. Doesn't mean that they have any intention of ever hurting anyone. Nor does it mean that they weren't disgusted by the attack. I'd hate to see them continuing to increase in numbers though, and this place becoming a 'safe space' for the far-right.

There are more than just a few who tolerate the far-right - and from reading this thread, you'd be forgiven for thinking that they tolerate white nationalists far more than they tolerate those whom they refer to as 'SJWs' (another tedious Americanism). They claim (wrongly) that they're two sides of the same coin, but they get a whole lot more worked up about one side than the other...

Billy86

Deleted User wrote: »

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harry Bailey esq

gozunda wrote: »

This place has become a cesspit of intolerance I'm outta here*











*internally debates closing latest account and/or saying a prayer to St Anto to find a cure for my hurt feelings.
Edit: I just seen a guy on telly with a Jack Daniels tee-shirt... I believe it to be a personal reply from St Anto himself, I'll find what I'm looking for at the bottom of a bottle. Soldier on I shall!

gozunda

harry Bailey esq wrote: »

This place has become a cesspit of intolerance I'm outta here*


*internally debates closing latest account and/or saying a prayer to St Anto to find a cure for my hurt feelings.
Edit: I just seen a guy on telly with a Jack Daniels tee-shirt... I believe it to be a personal reply from St Anto himself, I'll find what I'm looking for at the bottom of a bottle. Soldier on I shall!

Really? Over the use of the term "St Pattys"
Wooooo ..

I know that has to be Irony :pac:

AndrewJRenko

gozunda wrote: »

Here:

Try reading it again - just to be clear:


"Yeah, sure Ireland is grand, apart from the racists beating up black people for being black."



doesn't say anything about the racists being white or Irish - it just says racists.

Shane Old-fashioned Semifinalist wrote: »

Of course there will be isolated incidents unfortunately. But that doesn't make Ireland a racist country.

Isolated to attacks on foreigners I guess;

Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »

There are racists in Ireland alright, as my nonwhite partner would attest to. The feral underclass for instance. Public transport is a chore.

In general middle Ireland is fine.

By their actions, if not their words, the upper middle classes are keeping themselves seperate from travellers, foreigners and non-whites in their places of abode and work.

Your naivety is touching. Racism goes across all classes, all genders, all nationalities, all locations. Some people are better at hiding it than others.

Yer Da sells Avon wrote: »

I don't think it would be controversial to suggest that there are a few posters on here who use the same kind of language as that terrorist in Christchurch and are unhealthily preoccupied with race and immigration. Not many, but certainly more than in the past, and way more than the average person will encounter in normal society. Doesn't mean that they have any intention of ever hurting anyone. Nor does it mean that they weren't disgusted by the attack. I'd hate to see them continuing to increase in numbers though, and this place becoming a 'safe space' for the far-right.

You may well be right - that the racists don't have any intention of ever physically hurting anyone. However, they do fuel the hatred that empowers and emboldens others to carry out the kind of violent attacks that we've seen in Ireland and elsewhere.

gozunda

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

Try reading it again - just to be clear:

"Yeah, sure Ireland is grand, apart from the racists beating up black people for being black."

doesn't say anything about the racists being white or Irish - it just says racists.

"AndrewJRenko wrote:

Sure Ireland is grand apart from the racists...

So are you now saying the racists in Ireland are foreign born? Ok so .

"AndrewJRenko wrote:

Isolated to attacks on foreigners I guess

And you say we have foreigners being attacked by those neither white nor Irish

Seriously put down the shovel and stop digging ...

Grayson

Billy86 wrote: »

I can't be the only one? AbG's monitor...

I have one like that right here

AndrewJRenko

gozunda wrote: »

So are you now saying the racists in Ireland are foreign born? Ok so .



And you say we have foreigners being attacked by those neither white nor Irish

Seriously put down the shovel and stop digging ...

Let's go back over the facts. I never said anything about where the racists were born, mainly because I don't have any information about where the racists were born. I just referred to racists in Ireland.


You jumped to conclusions that I was commenting on the skin colour and ethnicity of those racists. I didn't make any comment on the skin colour or ethnicity of those racists.


You made a mistake.

TomSweeney

Omackeral wrote: »

Then leave. Plenty of other places to go that might suit you better.

The irony of calling out re-regs is startling when the rest of your post is taken into account. Also, did you just create this thread to have a go at Wibbs? Seems you couldn't wait to name drop him. In a thread complaining about "extremists", you pick out a very reasonable poster. It's all a bit sad and bitter.

BOOM ..

Franz Von Peppercorn

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

doesn't say anything about the racists being white or Irish - it just says racists.

Translation. Your attempt at whataboutary failed.

Your naivety is touching. Racism goes across all classes, all genders, all nationalities, all locations. Some people are better at hiding it than others.

I agree with the last statement - in fact, as in all moral system, which by their nature cause hypocrisy, often those who bleat the most about racism are by their actions more racist.

Day Lewin

Deleted User wrote: »

Wibbs is my spirit animal. If I didn't know better, I'd assume he's my sober self posting.

Yeah, but he's slightly too sober.

Where's the wild and free Wibbs?

Plastic Age

VeryTerry wrote: »

Some of us have been here for over a decade under various usernames. Personally I was here for the Phantom fm sub forum, some were here for Quake or whatever.

Now it's full of reregs and extremists. It's a done duck as far as I can see. Full of people on the wind up.

Well if facebook is considered for old people these days, then does that mean that boards is for really old people?!

I presume there's not many under 30 on boards. I also presume most are male.

Plastic Age

Omackeral wrote: »

Then leave. Plenty of other places to go that might suit you better.

Where? Boards gets a lot of traffic. I don't think such other places get such a high amount of traffic. A lot of people here seem to be from abroad also.

Danzy

VeryTerry wrote: »

Wibbs will be along in a minute for a long winded lecture about how his culture is superior to others and everyone will seal clap along like little *****.

Did someone dare to disagree with you?

Gffg

This is a good example of how boards is complicit. Notice the team work between the mods before the thread got taken down. And notice the team work between the mods looking for an excuse to take it down since no one else was having a problem with it.

jmcc

VeryTerry wrote: »

Yeah, over the last almost 20 years I've had a few accounts. No one is still on their first account

Hard to tell the newbies from the reregs.

Your Face

I love this.

gogo

Quote: VeryTerry
Yeah, over the last almost 20 years I've had a few accounts. No one is still on their first account

jmcc wrote: »

Hard to tell the newbies from the reregs.

Still on my first account... when you have nothing to hide it’s not an issue.. If you don’t want it out there then don’t put it out there..

Ghost Train

Boards is like a box of chocolates...

Discodog

gogo wrote: »

Quote: VeryTerry
Yeah, over the last almost 20 years I've had a few accounts. No one is still on their first account




Still on my first account... when you have nothing to hide it’s not an issue.. If you don’t want it out there then don’t put it out there..

I haven't changed & see no need to.

Deja Boo

Plastic Age wrote: »

Well if facebook is considered for old people these days, then does that mean that boards is for really old people?!

I presume there's not many under 30 on boards. I also presume most are male.

Check back when a storm approaches, over 5000 at a time keeping an eye on the weather forum. Boards is one of the last, enduring strong forums around - given it's a community, not just a business (atleast I hope the new owners see it's true worth).

Deja Boo

kippy wrote: »

You must be a rereg yourself.
Nov 2018?


Boards is what you make it.

agreed


...since we are what make up the success, failure and content of boards, the more we make of it, the better it can only get (regardless of re-reg or original status, op.) Whining about good old days and complaining about bad new days is futile, when we are the ones solely responsible to contribute what content we wish and/or change directions - up to us.

.

4068ac1elhodqr

Discodog wrote: »

I haven't changed & see no need to.

Wonder would your (or anyones) 12,413 or so posts, have any value to a FMCG marketing conglomerate, when we all live under Skynet in the year 2025?

After all if you get a casual dna test 'just to see what percentage is viking' for the bantz. Your supplied data will be perma-stored, even for possible future resell as a product.

Perhaps in 2025 the AI overlord will decide all the golden-blood Rh-Null (or Negative) folks should be rounded up.

Gffg

People who have outspoken opinions are more likely to get banned. The reality is that the people who don't get banned are bores who've nothing to say for themselves.

begbysback

Discodog wrote: »

I haven't changed & see no need to.

It’s cheaper than paying 5 bucks

xckjoo

There's a small but very vocal number of posters that are clearly only actively seeking to antagonise for their own agenda, or are just not completely mentally stable. Hard to differentiate between but neither one is worth engaging with as it's at the very least a waste of time and at worst could be exasperating a serious condition.

Cienciano

Boards rules are a problem. Trolling is too easy. You can troll and very simply defend it as your legitimate position. If you call someone a troll, you're carded, if the thread is reported nothing is done because technically it's not trolling. Right wing trolling just happens to be the easiest at the moment.

watn_a_van

super_furry wrote: »

There feels like there's been a concerted effort on After Hours to spread an American style alt-right agenda by a seemingly constant stream of brand new accounts over the last year or so.

It's something I don't really ever see reflected in Irish society or even in other Irish online communities like Reddit.

Reddit mods will remove any opinion they don't like as they'll be accused of being yanks.

Yer Da sells Avon

Gffg wrote: »

People who have outspoken opinions are more likely to get banned. The reality is that the people who don't get banned are bores who've nothing to say for themselves.

Maybe the real bores are the ones who think everyone needs to hear their opinions.

o1s1n

Gffg wrote: »

People who have outspoken opinions are more likely to get banned. The reality is that the people who don't get banned are bores who've nothing to say for themselves.

People get banned for spouting unsubstantiated nonsense and insulting rubbish. Something folks often confuse with being 'outspoken'.

Discodog

begbysback wrote: »

It’s cheaper than paying 5 bucks

Why change? I am happy to stand by the posts I made years ago.

Plopsu

seamus wrote: »

No, and nobody said that about the Gillette ad either.

But it's an implicit recognition that the New Zealand shooter has the same pseudo-intellectual positions and justifications against immigration and multiculturalism that many here on boards do. That makes you uncomfortable when you're not a psychopath, because it indicates that perhaps your own opinion might need re-examining.

But rather reexamine ones own opinions, it's far easier to just call everyone else crazy and stick to your guns.

Cough, cough, coughity cough:

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=109144768&postcount=76

Wibbs

Plopsu wrote: »

Cough, cough, coughity cough:

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=109144768&postcount=76

That was one of the most hysterically moronic statements I've ever read on Boards, a high mark to aim for indeed. And it came from someone who I was genuinely surprised to see coming out with that. I thought it a brain fart, but then it they doubled down on it.

Plopsu

Wibbs wrote: »

That was one of the most hysterically moronic statements I've ever read on Boards, a high mark to aim for indeed. And it came from someone who I was genuinely surprised to see coming out with that. I thought it a brain fart, but then it they doubled down on it.

As he says above, himself:

"But rather reexamine ones own opinions, it's far easier to just call everyone else crazy and stick to your guns."

MrFresh

Plopsu wrote: »

Cough, cough, coughity cough:

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=109144768&postcount=76

But he didn't say they were as bad as, he said they were a step away from them.

Plopsu

MrFresh wrote: »

But he didn't say they were as bad as, he said they were a step away from them.

Oooh, so he only said they were 'almost' as bad as them. Well that's completely different :rolleyes:

MrFresh

Plopsu wrote: »

Oooh, so he only said they were 'almost' as bad as them. Well that's completely different :rolleyes:

I agree.

Plopsu

MrFresh wrote: »

I agree.

With irony?? Go you.

Seriously though, if you want to make as big a fool of yourself defending what he said as he did on that thread, you go right ahead.

MrFresh

Plopsu wrote: »

With irony?? Go you.

You mean sarcasm right?

Plopsu wrote: »

Seriously though, if you want to make as big a fool of yourself defending what he said as he did on that thread, you go right ahead.

I didn't defend what he said. I'm pointing out how it was misrepresented.

Plopsu

MrFresh wrote: »

You mean sarcasm right?





I didn't defend what he said. I'm pointing out how it was misrepresented.

You might want to look up what irony means (in fairness it is pretty much sarcasm but if we're getting picky...).

There's no real misrepresentation. Try naming somebody as one step away from being a child rapist and see if a defamation case ensues.*

*spoiler: it will.

MrFresh

Plopsu wrote: »

You might want to look up what irony means (in fairness it is pretty much sarcasm but if we're getting picky...).

It was pretty clearly sarcasm.

Plopsu wrote: »

There's no real misrepresentation. Try naming somebody as one step away from being a child rapist and see if a defamation case ensues.*

*spoiler: it will.

It might, it would fail though. But it's still a strawman argument. He said one thing, he's been accused of saying something else. It doesn't matter if what he did say was incorrect, bad or defamatory, it's still something different to what he was accused of saying.

Plopsu

MrFresh wrote: »

It was pretty clearly sarcasm.






It might, it would fail though. But it's still a strawman argument. He said one thing, he's been accused of saying something else. It doesn't matter if what he did say was incorrect, bad or defamatory, it's still something different to what he was accused of saying.

From Collins online dictionary for you (since you seem intent to persist in just being wrong):

Irony is a subtle form of humour which involves saying things that you do not mean.

It's not a strawman argument either (so wrong again). Saying somebody is one step removed from a murderer or terrorist is comparing them to a murderer or terrorist.

MrFresh

Plopsu wrote: »

From Collins online dictionary for you (since you seem intent to persist in just being wrong):

Irony is a subtle form of humour which involves saying things that you do not mean.

Ok, I'll accept that.

Plopsu wrote: »

It's not a strawman argument either (so wrong again). Saying somebody is one step removed from a murderer or terrorist is comparing them to a murderer or terrorist.

It is, but it isn't equating them.

Kivaro

Wibbs wrote: »

That was one of the most hysterically moronic statements I've ever read on Boards, a high mark to aim for indeed. And it came from someone who I was genuinely surprised to see coming out with that. I thought it a brain fart, but then it they doubled down on it.

Really odd when he said:
"But it's an implicit recognition that the New Zealand shooter has the same pseudo-intellectual positions and justifications against immigration and multiculturalism that many here on boards do.

If that's not hysteria, I don't know what is.

Plopsu

MrFresh wrote: »

Ok, I'll accept that.







It is, but it isn't equating them.

Debatable. In fairness, I reckon the person who originally made the comment was going for comic effect. If you read the thread in question (just start with the post I quoted), you'll see why. It's comical.

Draco

VeryTerry wrote: »

No one is still on their first account

I am and I'm not the only one.

DrumSteve

Draco wrote: »

I am and I'm not the only one.

Ah snap.

I'm too lazy to set up a new one.

tjhook

Ghost Train wrote: »

Boards is like a box of chocolates...

Yeah, it's shrinking by the year, and you pretty quickly learn to avoid engaging with the soft pink ones.








Sorry, couldn't resist, I'll get my coat...