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Why is Waterford left out on a lot of tourist Itinaries

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    #152
    Harry Palmr
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    The Enbalmer wrote: »
    The Thames being the principal river of one of the most famous cities in the world with some of the world's most identifiable buildings along it's banks.

    Can you remind me what Waterfords river has to recommend it?

    That it's a river? The journey down stream from the city to Dunmore is lovely.


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    #153
    Deiseen
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    The Enbalmer wrote: »
    The Thames being the principal river of one of the most famous cities in the world with some of the world's most identifiable buildings along it's banks.

    Can you remind me what Waterfords river has to recommend it?

    Ah, another one. Aren't you the same fella who never heard of a greenway, or chose not to because there was one in Waterford?


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    #154
    Deiseen
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    Harry Palmr wrote: »
    That it's a river? The journey down stream from the city to Dunmore is lovely.

    It's actually amazing and definitely needs to be marketed more.


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    #155
    debok
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    The Enbalmer wrote: »
    Is this the river that is largely mud except at high tide?

    Your seriously having a go at a river for having mud. Christ that's the best ever.


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    #156
    First Up
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    I think it should be renamed The Nile, to reflect the attitude of some here.


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    #157
    alta stare
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    First Up wrote: »
    I think it should be renamed The Nile, to reflect the attitude of some here.

    Good to see you know about the Nile. You will surely pass geography. Good boy.


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    #158
    road_high
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    Wow yet another thread about Kilkenny- do people in Waterford ever really think about anything or anywhere else or is it just ingrained into the Waterford pysche at birth? This thread is borderline insane- people rambling on for pages in minute detail about virtually nothing


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    #159
    Harry Palmr
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    road_high wrote: »
    Wow yet another thread about Kilkenny- do people in Waterford ever really think about anything or anywhere else or is it just ingrained into the Waterford pysche at birth? This thread is borderline insane- people rambling on for pages in minute detail about virtually nothing

    If you were better neighbours...


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    #160
    Deiseen
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    road_high wrote: »
    Wow yet another thread about Kilkenny- do people in Waterford ever really think about anything or anywhere else or is it just ingrained into the Waterford pysche at birth? This thread is borderline insane- people rambling on for pages in minute detail about virtually nothing

    I don't think it was any from Waterford who brought up Kilkenny first. But hey don't let the truth ruin a good story!


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    #161
    mooseknunkle
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    road_high wrote: »
    Wow yet another thread about Kilkenny- do people in Waterford ever really think about anything or anywhere else or is it just ingrained into the Waterford pysche at birth? This thread is borderline insane- people rambling on for pages in minute detail about virtually nothing

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fC-xMTkslD8


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    #162
    TheQuietFella
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    Deiseen wrote: »
    It's actually amazing and definitely needs to be marketed more.

    I remember in the mid 1970's there was a boat on the river that used to bring tourists up river to Carrick if I'm not mistaken.
    I would love to travel down to the coast on a boat to Dunmore East and I think that it would be popular
    but at what cost to the passenger, and would it be worthwhile to the operator considering insurance and costs?
    Probably not!


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    #163
    Wanderer78
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    TheQuietFella wrote:
    I remember in the mid 1970's there was a boat on the river that used to bring tourists up river to Carrick if I'm not mistaken. I would love to travel down to the coast on a boat to Dunmore East and I think that it would be popular but at what cost to the passenger, and would it be worthwhile to the operator considering insurance and costs? Probably not!


    Could be viable if the nq's happens, **** of a tide to paddle against as well


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    #164
    IspeakcozIcan
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    Interesting how much discussion was sparked about Waterford's absence from tourist itineraries. Obviously there's enough to be said about it!

    Have to say I love being asked where I'm from and saying Waterford City. People genuinely always seem to have nice things to say about the place and Dunmore, Tramore. The Greenway gets mentioned now too. So Im surprised by the level of negativity on this thread especially talk of 'roughness'

    Met a girl in Dublin who last year spent a week's holidays in Waterford City with her family during the heatwave. She has no relatives in Waterford so didn't choose it for that reason. Even I think a week's holidays is pushing it, but they had a blast(weather helped obviously). Did day trips to Dunmore and Tramore. They sat outside at the apple market having a few drinks quite a bit. Did the history tours.

    Our tourist numbers are good and improving. Hopefully we'll appear on more itineraries into the future to reflect this.


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    #165
    TheQuietFella
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    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    Could be viable if the nq's happens, **** of a tide to paddle against as well

    Why would the NQ's have anything to do with it?

    Isn't the purpose of the NQ's to draw people in to spend their money
    but a trip down river are obviously drawing them away?
    I appreciate though that it could be another option to draw people in!


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    #166
    Deiseen
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    TheQuietFella wrote: »
    Why would the NQ's have anything to do with it?

    Isn't the purpose of the NQ's to draw people in to spend their money
    but a trip down river are obviously drawing them away?
    I appreciate though that it could be another option to draw people in!

    Well if they come to Waterford then they'll spend at least some money in there. The boat could be an extra reason reason for them to make the trip.


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    #167
    First Up
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    IspeakcozIcan wrote:
    Have to say I love being asked where I'm from and saying Waterford City. People genuinely always seem to have nice things to say about the place and Dunmore, Tramore. The Greenway gets mentioned now too. So Im surprised by the level of negativity on this thread especially talk of 'roughness'


    The attractions around the county have been acknowledged and praised here but the subject of the thread is the city.

    Nobody is saying Waterford is the only place in the country that suffers from late night rowdies but in my case it was the strongest (maybe only) memory that stayed with me, in the absence of more positive experiences.

    If you want more tourists that imbalance needs to be addressed.


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    #168
    Harry Palmr
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    Just came back into town through Sallypark - that Swan Plastics place and everything round it really is shocklng.


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    #169
    azimuth17
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    HP if you want to see something really shocking drive/cycle/walk out Bilberry to see the start of the Greenway and look across the river. There is some sort of huge wrecked warehouse complex on the other side of the river in Co Kilkenny that would do justice to some dystopian future. Maybe the people who lurk on this and other threads have influence in that part of the world? Must get pics next time.


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    #170
    Harry Palmr
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    The Kilkenny border is a wasteland but one that reflects badly on Waterford (which is why the KK CC don't do much with the area).


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    #171
    Wanderer2010
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    There are definitely a few no go areas and estates around Waterford but no more than any other town or city so that is not a deal breaker in my view. Waterford has a huge amount going for it.


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    #172
    alta stare
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    Harry Palmr wrote: »
    Just came back into town through Sallypark - that Swan Plastics place and everything round it really is shocklng.

    I agree. Lets Hope the NQ happen and maybe all that area there might be improved.


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    #173
    marlin vs
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    TheQuietFella wrote: »
    I remember in the mid 1970's there was a boat on the river that used to bring tourists up river to Carrick if I'm not mistaken.
    I would love to travel down to the coast on a boat to Dunmore East and I think that it would be popular
    but at what cost to the passenger, and would it be worthwhile to the operator considering insurance and costs?
    Probably not!
    There are two boats one a sailing vessel the Brian Ború, and the other, The Marksman that will do that trip once you have about 12 to 15 people, and I can recommend the Marksman as the chap that run's that boat has more knowledge than anyone of the river and he will tell you about the whole history of the river.


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    #174
    mooseknunkle
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    Wanderer2010 wrote: »
    There are definitely a few no go areas and estates around Waterford but no more than any other town or city so that is not a deal breaker in my view. Waterford has a huge amount going for it.

    I never knew Waterford had no go areas and estates,where are they?


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    #175
    Wanderer2010
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    mooseknunkle wrote: »
    I never knew Waterford had no go areas and estates,where are they?

    I detect some sarcasm in that post but if you want an answer then Larchville and surrounding areas are rough no question. That pub that used to be Bad Bobs...hmmm.


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    #176
    Joe Daly
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    Harry Palmr wrote: »
    If you were better neighbours...

    Can people in glass houses throw stones.


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    #177
    mooseknunkle
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    Wanderer2010 wrote: »
    I detect some sarcasm in that post but if you want an answer then Larchville and surrounding areas are rough no question. That pub that used to be Bad Bobs...hmmm.

    It was a genuine question,i've lived in Waterford most of my life and i've never heard of any no go areas,you need to get out more if you think Larchville is rough.


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    #178
    alta stare
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    Wanderer2010 wrote: »
    I detect some sarcasm in that post but if you want an answer then Larchville and surrounding areas are rough no question. That pub that used to be Bad Bobs...hmmm.

    Absolute nonsense.

    Which affluent area are you from?


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    #179
    Wanderer2010
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    mooseknunkle wrote: »
    It was a genuine question,i've lived in Waterford most of my life and i've never heard of any no go areas,you need to get out more if you think Larchville is rough.

    Em the amount of crime and hassle thats been around Larchville the last few years is well documented. Cars burnt out, neighbours from hell and the Guards are there very often too. Im not saying its the only dodgy spot but its certainly not a good area.


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    #180
    alta stare
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    Wanderer2010 wrote: »
    Em the amount of crime and hassle thats been around Larchville the last few years is well documented. Cars burnt out, neighbours from hell and the Guards are there very often too. Im not saying its the only dodgy spot but its certainly not a good area.

    Im sorry but you are talking absolute sh!te. Even when i was growing up Larchville wasnt as rough as you seem to be portraying it. Im in my mid 30s now.

    This topic comes up at least once a year on this forum and each year its bullsh!t. Yet again ill say it, the likes of Ballybeg, Larchville, Lisduggan, etc were all a bit rough around the edges many years ago but not now. Like before, like now and of course in the future there will be one or two groups who will cause issues but as a whole the people out in these so called rough areas are good people.

    Some of the more thought of housing estates have their issues too. Take off your blinkers and you might just see it.


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    #181
    Deiseen
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    alta stare wrote: »
    Im sorry but you are talking absolute sh!te. Even when i was growing up Larchville wasnt as rough as you seem to be portraying it. Im in my mid 30s now.

    This topic comes up at least once a year on this forum and each year its bullsh!t. Yet again ill say it, the likes of Ballybeg, Larchville, Lisduggan, etc were all a bit rough around the edges many years ago but not now. Like before, like now and of course in the future there will be one or two groups who will cause issues but as a whole the people out in these so called rough areas are good people.

    Some of the more thought of housing estates have their issues too. Take off your blinkers and you might just see it.

    I'd have the view too that Larchville and Ballybeg would be fairly rough. Ballybeg in particular has had some very serious incidents over the years. I'm not saying everyone out there is rough but there's enough rough heads to give it a bad reputation.


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