Once Upon a Time in Hollywood *spoilers from post 356*

peteeeed

https://twitter.com/FarOutMag/status/1356882616985804800?s=20

Mad_maxx

De Bhál wrote: »

Watched it last night, I enjoyed it.
Can't really understand people giving out about it being childish or cartoonist...it's a Tarantino movie.
Really enjoyed Pitt and Di Caprio.

Pitt rarely disappoints

unlike the vast majority , i liked Ad Astra

flasher0030

Mad_maxx wrote: »

Pitt rarely disappoints

unlike the vast majority , i liked Ad Astra

I enjoyed Ad Astra a lot more than Once Upon a Time in Hollywood.
I do have a soft spot for the space movies. There was a bit of excitement to Ad Astra.

pixelburp

Both films have pacing issues, but at least ...Hollywood's story had an interesting arc about obsolescence and middle age, wrapped in a potted history of cinema itself, when its own age came into focus. A rambling tale but still "about" something.

Ad Astra was a miserable slog of boilerplate Daddy Issues, utterly angst ridden and overwrought - but with occasional set pieces that veered into cheesy. I love a good space based story, in fact I tend to seek them out, but by the 15th Pitt voiceover lamenting how awful his dad was, I had checked out.

flasher0030

pixelburp wrote: »

Both films have pacing issues, but at least ...Hollywood's story had an interesting arc about obsolescence and middle age, wrapped in a potted history of cinema itself, when its own age came into focus. A rambling tale but still "about" something.

Ad Astra was a miserable slog of boilerplate Daddy Issues, utterly angst ridden and overwrought - but with occasional set pieces that veered into cheesy. I love a good space based story, in fact I tend to seek them out, but by the 15th Pitt voiceover lamenting how awful his dad was, I had checked out.

Ok. Each to their own, I guess.
I had the opposite conclusion about Hollywood - I left the cinema thinking that was about absolutely nothing.

pixelburp

flasher0030 wrote: »

Ok. Each to their own, I guess.
I had the opposite conclusion about Hollywood - I left the cinema thinking that was about absolutely nothing.

They're both about nothing really, insofar as internal character arcs are more subtext than text. And I'd not rush out to watch either again TBH, so it's all degrees of shoulder shrugging. Ad Astra had the benefit of a big action set piece every now and again. Which is fine like, nothing wrong with that and there was cosmic beauty in the space scenes ... but the stuff in between made me want to leave the cinema. Daddy Issues are just a story device I'm long past being patient with and were I running a writing school would fail any student passing it across my desk.

Dades

I agree - both movies were about nothing.

Even as a SF nut I was bored to tears by Ad Astra, but I loved OUATIH.

Beechwoodspark

Just to give my two cents

I thought ad astra started promisingly but overall was fairly bad. 3/10

I thought OUTIH had some good moments but overall way too long and indulgent. Was like Tarantino didn’t know what kind of movie he was trying to make so threw everything at the wall. 6/10

cdgalwegian

Dades wrote: »

I agree - both movies were about nothing.

Even as a SF nut I was bored to tears by Ad Astra, but I loved OUATIH.

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Just to give my two cents

I thought ad astra started promisingly but overall was fairly bad. 3/10

I thought OUTIH had some good moments but overall way too long and indulgent. Was like Tarantino didn’t know what kind of movie he was trying to make so threw everything at the wall. 6/10

Ad Astra was I thought was good , but could have been a lot a lot better. I think the word 'indulgent' for OUTIH hits the nail on the head. If your're into it. then you're into it, and was just such a pleasure, or not. I could have watched another hour of it, before a break, and then watched the 3 hr sequel. I was mesmerised.

Mad_maxx

Tarantino divides opinion like most great directors

I quite liked Death Proof despite it being panned , preferred it to Django Unchained

Relikk

Mad_maxx wrote: »

Tarantino divides opinion like most great directors

I quite liked Death Proof despite it being panned , preferred it to Django Unchained

The first half of Death Proof was great, until Tracie Thoms' character made me despise it overall and never watch it again. Django is much better.

Mad_maxx

Relikk wrote: »

The first half of Death Proof was great, until Tracie Thoms' character made me despise it overall and never watch it again. Django is much better.

found myself watching Jackie Brown again lately , great movie , Pam Grier is a terrific woman , no wonder Max Cherry was speechless throughout much of the movie

peteeeed

20-Hour Cut of Tarantino’s Once Upon A Time In Hollywood Teased By Margot Robbie

https://screenrant.com/once-upon-time-hollywood-tarantino-margot-robbie-cut/

peteeeed

has anyone bought the book?

cmac2009

peteeeed wrote: »

has anyone bought the book?

Haven't bought the book, but he was on Marc Maron's podcast discussing it, and his life in general, if anyone is interested.

Shybride2016

peteeeed wrote: »

has anyone bought the book?

I bought it this evening - god knows when I’ll get to actually read it though, the pile of unread books in my wardrobe just keeps growing!

peteeeed

cmac2009 wrote: »

Haven't bought the book, but he was on Marc Maron's podcast discussing it, and his life in general, if anyone is interested.

i listened , maron seemed to love the book, i've just bought it

Shybride2016

peteeeed wrote: »

i listened , maron seemed to love the book, i've just bought it

I love the podcast he did with Brad & Leo about the film. Great to hear them all chatting about the film industry and Marc losing the plot halfway through was so funny.

peteeeed

Shybride2016 wrote: »

I love the podcast he did with Brad & Leo about the film. Great to hear them all chatting about the film industry and Marc losing the plot halfway through was so funny.

i think i remember that one, the tech issues made it

Shybride2016

peteeeed wrote: »

i think i remember that one, the tech issues made it

Absolutely. Listened to it again there the other day and it’s still as funny as I remembered. They weren’t in his usual studio as he had travelled to chat to them after they did a Q&A in a theatre and he wasn’t having a good time with the mobile set up!

Well sheeeet. Had avoided watching this movie because of how gruesome the ending was supposed to be, considering Sharon Tate was nearly full term and knew the story... Eventually plucked up the courage to watch it, considered skipping fast through the expected end scene... Q the gorey bit and I laughed myself silly. Brilliant ending.

silverharp

That was a great watch, it was our family film last night. Know next to nothing about the Manson story and didnt know any spoilers about this film, so overall the ending was great and very Tarantino , if he can kill Hitler in Inglorious Bastards he can crate a righteous ending in this one 9/10

JP Liz V1

It is on RTE 1 bank holiday Monday night at 9.30pm

Man Vs ManUre

This film is not in same class as Pulp Fiction, Reservoir Dogs, Django Unchained, Inglorious Basterds, Hateful 8, Kill Bills or Jackie Brown.

cdgalwegian

It's more of a completely different tone than all the others, and if anything, one of his classiest. Pure postmodern self-indulgent story-telling, of the highest calibre.

~Rebel~

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118987476#Comment_118987476

I wouldn't put those in the same class as each other either tbh though. Reservoir Dogs, Pulp Fiction, and Jackie Brown are a cut above.

He's changed as he's aged, and gotten interested in more hyper-stylized filmmaking. No harm in that, it's good for filmmakers (or artists of any kind) to keep exploring new things, though I think he loses sight of the grounded characters he used to make at times amidst all the style.

The Kill Bill's were like the bridge between his original style and what followed, and Once Upon A time... is almost him circling back around and bringing some more in-depth character beats back into a very style-heavy film.

I'd have liked if there was a more focused narrative though (or, I guess, a narrative through-line that didn't end up on the cutting room floor as seemed to happen with Tim Roth's storyline). Feels like what he wanted to achieve would've maybe fit an anthology series format better.