The 'what have some travellers somewhere done this time? thread

donkeykong5

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

donkeykong5 wrote: »

Maybe hes worried after the pathetic abuse that was dished out to Peter Casey.

Anyone, anyone really who has the bottle to call this stuff out for what it is would top the poll.

There is no nice way of saying it, but people are fed up to the back teeth of this tip toeing around a very nasty issue in our society.

Travellers are not above the law, but they actually can be most of the time due to constant recidivism. Eyes roll, not you again Connors, six months suspended, Next!

At least Operation Thor is proving to be successful, long may it continue. Organised Crime is being tackled regardless of whether they are Travellers or not. They have one thing in common, they are criminals with no regard for the law of the land.

There..... I feel better after that :P

You and me both. !

Galwayguy35

Cienciano wrote: »

More millions of cost to the taxpayer.

https://galwaybayfm.ie/galway-bay-fm-news-desk/city-council-confirms-most-houses-at-controversial-ballybane-social-housing-development-unoccupied/

Travellers said the accommodation they destroyed themselves violated their human rights

https://www.thejournal.ie/galway-traveller-movement-accommodation-report-4136574-Jul2018/

Here's drone footage of the area

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHSVkSBFDxA

How the fúck do you decide to live in a caravan, then demand housing and after you destroy it, complain about it being destroyed and demand more be built?

The spinless councillers we vote in won't say a word to them about it.

I'm looking forward to mentioning it to them when they come to the door looking for my vote.

Spanish Eyes

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

The spinless councillers we vote in won't say a word to them about it.

I'm looking forward to mentioning it to them when they come to the door looking for my vote.

It really just takes one Councillor to say it out, then the rest will follow because, well you know, Travellers don't bother voting anyway so policitians need to listen to those who do.

I do realise that there are laws out there under the Equality Act and so on, but realistically Travellers haven't a hope of being protected under that since they are not a separate race anyway. Neither are non Traveller organised crime gangs either.

Time to get tough now. Very happy to see that Operation Thor is yielding results. Needs to be ongoing now, just like it is/was for the other gangs too.

It has all gone a bit quiet now, which is a great credit to the new Commissioner. Those who went before him never lifted a finger really.

leeside11

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

The spinless councillers we vote in won't say a word to them about it.

I'm looking forward to mentioning it to them when they come to the door looking for my vote.

Was talking to a former councillor today who told me of a colleague of his came under so much pressure from these guys to get them anything and everything that they could claim, he had a nervous breakdown over them.
The pressure and threats nearly finished him.

Filmer Paradise

Operation Thor is going on now because of the Local Elections.

When that's all done & dusted, assume Thor is over.

I'd love to see it continue, but it's worth mentioning to canvassers coming to your door.

goat2

Is the incident in Killarney connected to the cork investigation

rays cyst

Cienciano wrote: »

Here's drone footage of the area

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHSVkSBFDxA

Reminds me of the penguins from that docu series Earth From Space. You can tell from miles off that they’ve been by the trail of shīt they leave behind

It wasnt me123

leeside11 wrote: »

Was talking to a former councillor today who told me of a colleague of his came under so much pressure from these guys to get them anything and everything that they could claim, he had a nervous breakdown over them.
The pressure and threats nearly finished him.

All they have to do is tape the travellers demanding stuff and threatening him and then go to the guards. If people started standing up to this lot, they wouldn't get away with so much.

sligojoek

Cienciano wrote: »

More millions of cost to the taxpayer.

https://galwaybayfm.ie/galway-bay-fm-news-desk/city-council-confirms-most-houses-at-controversial-ballybane-social-housing-development-unoccupied/

Travellers said the accommodation they destroyed themselves violated their human rights

https://www.thejournal.ie/galway-traveller-movement-accommodation-report-4136574-Jul2018/

Here's drone footage of the area

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHSVkSBFDxA

How the fúck do you decide to live in a caravan, then demand housing and after you destroy it, complain about it being destroyed and demand more be built?

Great piece of journalism. There should be more of this.

von Smallhausen

This Bernard Sweeney fella has really out done himself this time. He decided that a tweet from Leo about the young journalist killed the other night would be the right time to compare to what apparently FG have done to the travellers.....


https://twitter.com/1bernardsweeney/status/1119174275255160833


There is a time and a place for that crap and on a message of condemnation against the murder of a young life isn't it. He should stick to trying to ride Maggie's hole.

Jerichoholic

He's a ****ing moron.

Filmer Paradise

Danny_B wrote: »

This Bernard Sweeney fella has really out done himself this time. He decided that a tweet from Leo about the young journalist killed the other night would be the right time to compare to what apparently FG have done to the travellers.....


https://twitter.com/1bernardsweeney/status/1119174275255160833


There is a time and a place for that crap and on a message of condemnation against the murder of a young life isn't it. He should stick to trying to ride Maggie's hole.

It seems that every thing attached to Travellers nowadays is pure dirt.

Is there any decent Travellers left to swing things into a positive light?

I think there isn't at this stage.

Hit them all with a big stick till they are all gone.

Only way to deal with them now.

They were too well looked after for far too long & now we are all paying the price for it.

end of the road

Filmer Paradise wrote: »

It seems that every thing attached to Travellers nowadays is pure dirt.

Is there any decent Travellers left to swing things into a positive light?

I think there isn't at this stage.

Hit them all with a big stick till they are all gone.

Only way to deal with them now.

They were too well looked after for far too long & now we are all paying the price for it.

they were not to well looked after. they were simply given the same opportunities, treatment and protections as the rest of society. protections they especially need because of those who think every single traveler is the same, who fanticize about certain actions they would like to happen to them, who support or even engage in discrimination against them, not caring or bothering about the fact that there will be travelers who are not involved in criminality and who do contribute to society.

John2136

end of the road wrote: »

they were not to well looked after. they were simply given the same opportunities, treatment and protections as the rest of society. protections they especially need because of those who think every single traveler is the same, who fanticize about certain actions they would like to happen to them, who support or even engage in discrimination against them, not caring or bothering about the fact that there will be travelers who are not involved in criminality and who do contribute to society.

Yeah...... the wives who only spend the dirty money and don't partake in the dirty actions to get it

jk23

One of the things that stops the law or settled people getting involved or stopping travellers disgusting behaviour is they know they will be threatened and have their homes or other family members targeted.

There is no point any decent member of society engaging with a trouble making traveller as he knows they are not subject to the same criminal law that settled people are.

Filmer Paradise

end of the road wrote: »

they were not to well looked after. they were simply given the same opportunities, treatment and protections as the rest of society. protections they especially need because of those who think every single traveler is the same, who fanticize about certain actions they would like to happen to them, who support or even engage in discrimination against them, not caring or bothering about the fact that there will be travelers who are not involved in criminality and who do contribute to society.

And now they are all such a violent & disgusting disaster.

Holy horrors of humanity, the lot of them.

You tell everyone here how to solve the problem of these savages.

Savages that are payed for & supported by hard pressed, hard working taxpayers of this country.

You have no real answers to this, just waffle.

People like you just can make any problem in the world worse than it already is.

For that reason, I'd dislike the likes of you way more than any bunch of Pavees.:mad:

NIMAN

Only vermin could do this to properties rented out to them.

Filmer Paradise

NIMAN wrote: »

Only vermin could do this to properties rented out to them.

Self entitled Vermin, funded & encouraged by the State and the likes of EOTR.

We are paying for this form of human rubbish & it makes me vomit.

end of the road

John2136 wrote: »

Yeah...... the wives who only spend the dirty money and don't partake in the dirty actions to get it

no the ones, both male and female, who are decent, who are not involved in criminality and who contribute to society.

jk23 wrote: »

One of the things that stops the law or settled people getting involved or stopping travellers disgusting behaviour is they know they will be threatened and have their homes or other family members targeted.

There is no point any decent member of society engaging with a trouble making traveller as he knows they are not subject to the same criminal law that settled people are.

they are subject to the same laws as settled people. plenty of them among the prison population.

end of the road

Filmer Paradise wrote: »

And now they are all such a violent & disgusting disaster.

nope, they aren't all such a violent and disgusting disaster. certainly a number of them are violent and disgusting and they are rightly dealt with for their behaviour. but they all are not as such and you will need to come to terms with that reality.

Filmer Paradise wrote: »

Holy horrors of humanity, the lot of them.

nope, some.

Filmer Paradise wrote: »

You tell everyone here how to solve the problem of these savages.

Savages that are payed for & supported by hard pressed, hard working taxpayers of this country.

what is currently being done. lock them up. it's as simple as that. insure the police are properly funded and resourced so that no criminal traveler or settled can slip through the cracks. increase sentences as well.

Filmer Paradise wrote: »

You have no real answers to this, just waffle.

i've given the answers above. that is the best you are going to get. you are never going to eradicate criminality. no society is crime free. all you can do is keep the dangerous ones locked up for as long as possible or even indefinitely, and keep locking up the lower level ones each time they commit a crime worthy of being locked up.

Filmer Paradise wrote: »

People like you just can make any problem in the world worse than it already is.

it is me who is the one that would be willing to deal with the issue. it is you and others who have no actual workable solutions and not me.

Filmer Paradise wrote: »

For that reason, I'd dislike the likes of you way more than any bunch of Pavees.

i'm honestly not bothered about a randomer on a website's personal opinion of me tbh.

end of the road

Filmer Paradise wrote: »

Self entitled Vermin, funded & encouraged by the State and the likes of EOTR.

We are paying for this form of human rubbish & it makes me vomit.

i'm not encouraging anything. those individuals are responsible for their own behaviour

marklazarcovic

It's a pity they didn't go a bit further out of the area,close by in the ballybane neighborhood project , buildings abandoned,fine places, behind that in a lane you simply don't go down is a encampment that will make you reverse pretty sharpish.. illegal camping ,dumping,car dismantling ,a frightful place,and they live there,by design.

sabat

In future years the state's policy of indulging this way of life will be viewed in the same way industrial schools and mother and baby homes are now. Imagine a new-born traveller baby being brought home to a halting site -accommodation that ranks in the Irish hierarchy maybe slightly above a bed in a wet hostel - the state is effectively saying "that's your lot in life kid."

Igotadose

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/gardai-in-kerry-investigating-suspected-fire-bomb-attack-918564.html

Feud resulting in fire in a home early in the day near Killarney

whisky_galore

marklazarcovic wrote: »

It's a pity they didn't go a bit further out of the area,close by in the ballybane neighborhood project , buildings abandoned,fine places, behind that in a lane you simply don't go down is a encampment that will make you reverse pretty sharpish.. illegal camping ,dumping,car dismantling ,a frightful place,and they live there,by design.

They have no connection to a place or pride in where they live, happy to live in squalor, in their own shyte.

sligojoek

end of the road wrote: »

John2136 wrote: »

Yeah...... the wives who only spend the dirty money and don't partake in the dirty actions to get it

no the ones, both male and female, who are decent, who are not involved in criminality and who contribute to society.

jk23 wrote: »

One of the things that stops the law or settled people getting involved or stopping travellers disgusting behaviour is they know they will be threatened and have their homes or other family members targeted.

There is no point any decent member of society engaging with a trouble making traveller as he knows they are not subject to the same criminal law that settled people are.

they are subject to the same laws as settled people. plenty of them among the prison population.

Not half enough of them

hurler32

A very basic question .

What percentage of the traveller community work ..??

It seems like they all expect the tax payer to pay for everything ... large amounts of welfare , children’s allowance etc etc ... as good as free houses ...those working are no better off than them

I guess less than 5 % of travellers work ( contribute ) to society

punisher5112

hurler32 wrote: »

A very basic question .

What percentage of the traveller community work ..??

It seems like they all expect the tax payer to pay for everything ... large amounts of welfare , children’s allowance etc etc ... as good as free houses ...those working are no better off than them

I guess less than 5 % of travellers work ( contribute ) to society

At least 85% are on the scratch then take disability and carers into it also....

Marcus Rashford

Whether it’s being argued that they’re a race or an ethnic minority, either way it’s rubbish. They are Irish like the rest of us, albeit the lifestyle and inbreeding has led to some severe health issues in many cases. It is morally wrong to impose the Traveller way of life on young children, and it’s for that reason that our politicians need to come up with a final solution to the Traveller issue.

punisher5112

Marcus Rashford wrote: »

Whether it’s being argued that they’re a race or an ethnic minority, either way it’s rubbish. They are Irish like the rest of us, albeit the lifestyle and inbreeding has led to some severe health issues in many cases. It is morally wrong to impose the Traveller way of life on young children, and it’s for that reason that our politicians need to come up with a final solution to the Traveller issue.

Exactly but with the spinless fools we have in there this will never happen.

I've stood up to travellers and to be honest a lot are cowards and big mouths.

I've had many dealings over the years in work but have also had one in a road rage incident where fists were thrown.

He was my best mate after as I could take the digs but him not so well.

Fcuk this government and their a#s hat ways we need people that will tell it how it is and get that dangerous one zapone out as she will end up bankrupting us.

We end up with more taxes to pay for these travellers, they get housing and destroy it and the neighborhood around, they Rob people, their houses, cables, anything bolted down or not, rob exhausts off vehicles and even wheels and go as far as even turn a car on its side to do so.

When will the babying around them stop as I've never come across a thicker bunch in my life.

It's great there are a little few that seem decent but I've yet to meet any.

Nikki Sixx

sabat wrote: »

In future years the state's policy of indulging this way of life will be viewed in the same way industrial schools and mother and baby homes are now. Imagine a new-born traveller baby being brought home to a halting site -accommodation that ranks in the Irish hierarchy maybe slightly above a bed in a wet hostel - the state is effectively saying "that's your lot in life kid."

What? The travellers in caravans have chosen to live in caravans? Why are you blaming the state?

punisher5112

Nikki Sixx wrote: »

What? The travellers in caravans have chosen to live in caravans? Why are you blaming the state?

I think it's more so as they're are actually pandering to them and giving them everything but they will turn it that they got nothing.

Jerichoholic

Imagine being so lazy and backwards that you are given free houses to live in, then you burn the houses and sell them for scrap while a horse lives in another one of the houses, then expect to be given more free houses.

The horse deserves to have the house, he's a higher being and more important in society than the other wastes of oxygen.

Atlantic Dawn

Jerichoholic wrote: »

Imagine being so lazy and backwards that you are given free houses to live in, then you burn the houses and sell them for scrap while a horse lives in another one of the houses, then expect to be given more free houses.

The horse deserves to have the house, he's a higher being and more important in society than the other wastes of oxygen.

They also 'traditionally' burn houses and caravans to the ground if someone dies in one.

All four caravans were set alight at the entrance of the Glynmill Caravan Site in Merthyr, including one which Mrs Marshall bought only a month before her death.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3613126/Travellers-burn-four-caravans-Queen-Gipsies-possessions-ancient-rite.html

Jerichoholic

Well, at least they have all that hard earned money to buy new ones whenever they want.

punisher5112

Jerichoholic wrote: »

Well, at least they have all that hard earned money to buy new ones whenever they want.

From such hard work of course...,

Phileas Frog

sabat wrote: »

In future years the state's policy of indulging this way of life will be viewed in the same way industrial schools and mother and baby homes are now. Imagine a new-born traveller baby being brought home to a halting site -accommodation that ranks in the Irish hierarchy maybe slightly above a bed in a wet hostel - the state is effectively saying "that's your lot in life kid."

Why should the state have any involvement at all?

normanoffside

Danny_B wrote: »

This Bernard Sweeney fella has really out done himself this time. He decided that a tweet from Leo about the young journalist killed the other night would be the right time to compare to what apparently FG have done to the travellers.....


https://twitter.com/1bernardsweeney/status/1119174275255160833


There is a time and a place for that crap and on a message of condemnation against the murder of a young life isn't it. He should stick to trying to ride Maggie's hole.

Haha! He is being slaughtered there even by travellers but Bernard is sticking to his ground.

Apparently FG are burning travellers to death in their own Caravans, it's not the fault of fellow travellers petrol bombing but it's FG doing it.

https://twitter.com/1bernardsweeney/status/1119222990430928896

Jerichoholic

A cretin of the highest order.

Mad_maxx

Marcus Rashford wrote: »

Whether it’s being argued that they’re a race or an ethnic minority, either way it’s rubbish. They are Irish like the rest of us, albeit the lifestyle and inbreeding has led to some severe health issues in many cases. It is morally wrong to impose the Traveller way of life on young children, and it’s for that reason that our politicians need to come up with a final solution to the Traveller issue.

We have only gone further down the indulgence hole this past few years, the Peter casey episode also showed how invested in the whole sham the media is, too much money for the legal, quango and poverty industry and virtue signalling capital for media, for the truth to begin being told

Many vested interests love the lie too much

Mad_maxx

punisher5112 wrote: »

Exactly but with the spinless fools we have in there this will never happen.

I've stood up to travellers and to be honest a lot are cowards and big mouths.

I've had many dealings over the years in work but have also had one in a road rage incident where fists were thrown.

He was my best mate after as I could take the digs but him not so well.

Fcuk this government and their a#s hat ways we need people that will tell it how it is and get that dangerous one zapone out as she will end up bankrupting us.

We end up with more taxes to pay for these travellers, they get housing and destroy it and the neighborhood around, they Rob people, their houses, cables, anything bolted down or not, rob exhausts off vehicles and even wheels and go as far as even turn a car on its side to do so.

When will the babying around them stop as I've never come across a thicker bunch in my life.

It's great there are a little few that seem decent but I've yet to meet any.

Several garage men have told me you can't leave a toe bar on a car in a forecourt as the travellers will snatch them

Mad_maxx

Jerichoholic wrote: »

A cretin of the highest order.

Yet Vincent browne saw fit to appear on his youtube channel show earlier this year

Jerichoholic

Mad_maxx wrote: »

Yet Vincent browne saw fit to appear on his youtube channel show earlier this year

The absolute state of it. He got a nice grant for all that equipment and then immediately was looking for more money. He could learn how to use the stuff he's got first.

He also called Margaret Cash "The Irish Rosa Parks"

He should be boiled in public for such nonsense.

end of the road

Marcus Rashford wrote: »

Whether it’s being argued that they’re a race or an ethnic minority, either way it’s rubbish. They are Irish like the rest of us, albeit the lifestyle and inbreeding has led to some severe health issues in many cases.

the fact they have ethnic minority status would suggest it's not rubbish, i'm afraid. i don't believe they would have such a status unless there was validity to such status.

Marcus Rashford wrote: »

It is morally wrong to impose the Traveller way of life on young children, and it’s for that reason that our politicians need to come up with a final solution to the Traveller issue.

they already have. it's called letting the way of life change of it's own accord. that is the only option available.

normanoffside

Jerichoholic wrote: »

The absolute state of it. He got a nice grant for all that equipment and then immediately was looking for more money. He could learn how to use the stuff he's got first.

He also called Margaret Cash "The Irish Rosa Parks"

He should be boiled in public for such nonsense.

You know what else? The only people to donate to his 'fund' were Pavee point. They also let him use their offices as his studio for that show.

Since then Bernard has spent his time publicly slagging off pavee Point (see Below)
Talk about cutting of his nose to spite his face...


https://www.facebook.com/100007227857780/videos/2268557656728474/

John2136

It's hilarious the amount of horrible things said in this thread and not a single warning is handed out, it just shows that the mods only hand out bans when someone says something they don't like.

endacl

John2136 wrote: »

It's hilarious the amount of horrible things said in this thread and not a single warning is handed out, it just shows that the mods only hand out bans when someone says something they don't like.

Not really. Up till a few years ago practically every thread with a negative slant against travellers would have been shut down a fairly short order.

I’m guessing that site policy has been infused with reality. In the same way that there’d be no point in shutting down a discussion on how apples, by and large, tend to be really very ‘appley’. Some people might of course enter such a discussion, arguing that many apples are orangey, and that they even met an apple once that was completely grapefruity.

Apples are apples. Can’t argue with reality.

von Smallhausen

My wife works in the local Tesco, a pair of our ethnic friends went up and tried to pay for stuff with a dud 50. Security got it, they tried to take it back claiming that they had got it from someone who they sold an iPhone to.
Also turns out that they had also robbed 2 dressing gowns by wearing them and walking out.
Couldn't challenge them because they didn't see it until the cctv was reviewed.

And these arseholes want to be treated fairly..stop being a thieving cu.nt and we will.

Rows Grower

Danny_B wrote: »

My wife works in the local Tesco, a pair of our ethnic friends went up and tried to pay for stuff with a dud 50. Security got it, they tried to take it back claiming that they had got it from someone who they sold an iPhone to.
Also turns out that they had also robbed 2 dressing gowns by wearing them and walking out.
Couldn't challenge them because they didn't see it until the cctv was reviewed.

And these arseholes want to be treated fairly..stop being a thieving cu.nt and we will.

I LOL'ed.

Garda are currently at a halting site in Sligo which was featured in that RTÉ traveller program a while back. It appears their illegal scrap metal activities are being shut down)

They are the family (McDonaghs) who are living in the car park and wouldn’t move to another area as they were feuding with the other traveller family (Ward) residing there. The council we’re going to build a wall to keep them separate.

https://www.facebook.com/115071508505532/posts/2436433169702676?sfns=mo