What practice/beliefs make you instantly lose respect for someone?

Widdershins

Lotus Flower wrote: »

What a strange thing to do!

It was a popular photo as well. Imagine if a man did that to a woman . Imo, it's not much better than ''upskirting''

Skyfloater

Western women who convert to Islam.

BalcombeSt4

^ Can I ask why you have no respect for Muslim women? Are you a Saudi prince?

Anyway mine.

People with far-right opinions, like The Holocaust never happened or it was not as bad as people made it out, people who blame almost everything bad on immigrants, people who talk about a subject (like the Troubles) as if their an expert on it but again & again make false claims & say things that never happened.

Islamophobics, people have always had problems with Islam, usually thanks to the US & Israeli's wars against Muslim countries that trickles down hatred, but since 9/11 anti-Muslim bigotry is one of the last forms of cultural mainstream acceptable racism. Despite the fact 9/11 was carried out by mainly Saudi's, who are one of the US's main allies, and which the majority of Muslims disagree or are opposed militarily to that ideology, like Hezbollah, PLO, PFLP etc...

Americans who believe in Manifest Destiny or the Monroe Doctrine.

Loyalists who call Michael Stone "good aul Stoney".

Socialist who can't face the fact Marxism-Leninism was a failed ideology, I'm Socialist myself but not a orthodox Marxist.

Skyfloater

Skyfloater wrote: »

Western women who convert to Islam.

But Western men who do don't bother you. Gotcha.

The Princess Bride

Pregnant women smoking.

Anyone who throws rubbish on streets or wherever, rather than in a bin.

Can't tolerate either, and can't understand what kind of brain, if any, they'd have.

Widdershins

littering says something about people alright

A bit like people who leave a mess for someone to clean up.



This thread and the trivial annoyance one are good for knocking the judbgemental streak out of me, though .

It's only a matter of time before we all see our own behaviour /habit/thing we say listed.

dr.fuzzenstein

TheIrishGrover wrote: »

I hate ALL sweeping generalisations and everyone who makes them.

Because all sweeping generalisations are always wrong;

Atlantic Dawn

Any idiot who takes all their valuables out of their pockets and scatters them within the basket at the scanner in the airport so wide open for theft and then after if goes through either takes 10 minutes to reload them or discovers items missing when they are reacquainted with their stuff. If only there was an invention called a zip pocket or sealed bag you could place your stuff in on the tray and not be a backward idiot delaying everyone else. This single instruction would say about €5 million in the EU alone.

TommyGun2017

People who use Snapchat to document every little detail of their lives. It’s lost on me

Curious Scot

People who, no matter what is being discussed, will always say "that's correct/that's right" to everything that's being said when it is obvious they haven't the foggiest idea of what's being discussed.

Duffy the Vampire Slayer

Anyone who has a positive opinion of Trump or his supporters.

Irish Guitarist

Anyone that finds money on a shop floor and puts it in their pocket. It's one thing finding money in the street and keeping it but if someone drops money in a shop there's a good chance they'll come back looking for it. Keeping it rather than handing it in makes you a thieving scumbag.

murph226

People that run on the road next to a perfectly good footpath.

Jackman25

Candie wrote: »

Sweeping generalizations about tens of millions of people based on the experiences of a few and extrapolation borne of confirmation bias.

People who never pass up an opportunity for a bit of politically correct sanctimony.

whisky_galore

murph226 wrote: »

People that run on the road next to a perfectly good footpath.

But, but, they're training for the Olympics! They're entitled to use the road!

Deebles McBeebles

Anyone mention Scientology yet?

Damn it Travolta.

TaurenDruid

murph226 wrote: »

People that run on the road next to a perfectly good footpath.

People that turn left onto a side road or who pull right up to a junction and stop - right into the path of a runner on the footpath whose about to cross the road, and has right of way...

sbsquarepants

Irish Guitarist wrote: »

Anyone that finds money on a shop floor and puts it in their pocket. It's one thing finding money in the street and keeping it but if someone drops money in a shop there's a good chance they'll come back looking for it. Keeping it rather than handing it in makes you a thieving scumbag.

I was waiting at the till in a spar shop a while back when I seen the woman in front drop some money, so I picked it up and gave it back to her - it was €200. She was delighted of course and told me she had only lost another €200 the week before.

Happy with my good deed and high with anticipation of the karmic reward coming my way, I set off home, only for a steam geyser to erupt from the bonnet of my car, some valve thingy had fallen apart - cost me €200!

Now, I don't know what the moral of that story is but there's just too many €200's for my liking.:mad:

Day Lewin

Squeakers: "And I'm like, O M G! Unreal!"

Just shoot them all.

Widdershins

Girls or fully grown women who act like girls , who simper and giggle at the end of their sentences .

Women dumbing themselves down to be less threatening to those who are intimidated by confident women .

Green&Red

Widdershins wrote: »

This thread and the trivial annoyance one are good for knocking the judbgemental streak out of me, though .

It's only a matter of time before we all see our own behaviour /habit/thing we say listed.

This

I've seen a couple of things here that I do/have done

Admission: I've been the fish in the work microwave guy and I'm marrying someone who does it too, we're horrible people but at least we're mating within species

But then I see the guy who gives out about cyclists cycling two abreast and threatening to hit them and I'm right up on my judgmental pony - you sir are an ar$ehole

sbsquarepants

Grayson wrote: »

People who don't watch the good place is on the list.

Knock me off your list Grayson - I settled in last night and watched the first 4 episodes.

Pretty good so far I have to say!

TheAnalyst_

Anti water charges.

Red Lightning

Deleted User wrote:

“I respect you as a person too much to respect your ridiculous beliefs.â€

― Johann Hari

A very disrespectful comment cloaked as a compliment.

Red Lightning

Red Lightning wrote: »

A very disrespectful comment cloaked as a compliment.

Not at all. It is a distinction between the respect we should hold for people - and the respect we should never hold for ideas. Only the former are deserving of our respect. Only the former actually requires it or desires it.

That you want to demand respect on behalf of your ideas is your error - not the idea's. Learn the difference.

Not engaging with bad ideas for fear of the person who holds them is not showing that person respect. Quite the opposite. It is to treat them like a child made of cotton. And that is something I will never do to anyone I respect. Which is - for the most part - everyone.

partyguinness

NewbridgeIR wrote: »

That doesn't surprise me given the way they do funerals over there. Cold. Impersonal. Take ages to be held and the priest / vicar never seems to know the deceased.

In my industry I deal with a lot of English colleagues - fine on a personal level but professionally are much more standoffish and impersonal with customers. They have a totally different way of doing business. And then you have the converse - I have dealt with English customers who have relocated to Ireland and they can't believe how much the Irish do for them (from a service perspective) compared to the UK staff.

Yeah I have experienced the funeral thing here too- very impersonal almost an inconvenience.

Sure you know the way it is in Ireland well in the less urban areas anyway. Someone dies- everyone drops everything and the funeral and burial over with in a few days. No excuses.

I have honestly heard of funerals taking weeks later sometimes months because they couldn't agree on dates. Body lies in the morgue for weeks sometimes months until the family could be bothered to do something about.

This is no lie. I know of a family and the funeral date was pushed back because one of the daughters' had a prior appointment booked with her hairdresser on a particular day. I wouldn't believe that only it was said to me first hand and the sibling telling me didn't express any issue with it. Or somebody has holiday booked.

I have warned my workplace a few times that when my g/mother and g/uncles die (all in their late 80s) I will drop what I am doing and flying straight back to Ireland that day. No questions asked.

kenmc

Anyone who wants year round wintertime since DST will be abolished

Red Lightning

TaxAHcruel but these beliefs are very important to some people. I'm sure they don't mind if you don't hold similar beliefs but if you bash them for believing then it is very disrespectful.

partyguinness

Ok I have seen two different posters in the last 24 hours write 'per say'.

It is 'per se' :mad:

Red Lightning

Red Lightning wrote: »

TaxAHcruel but these beliefs are very important to some people.

Absolutely! But that in no way negates a single word I wrote above.

Red Lightning wrote: »

if you bash them for believing then it is very disrespectful.

Sure. But no one advocated that and in fact since your first post on the matter this is the first time that was mentioned at all. So you have somewhat shifted the goal posts on that one.

Your first post was about bashing the beliefs. My counter post was that that is fine.

You have now shifted it to bashing _them_ for having those beliefs. My post just before this one distinguished between doing that (which you should never do) and bashing the belief itself (which we should).

So right after my post making that distinction - you replied to me with a reply that entirely misses that distinction and in fact falsely conflates the two directly. Which is an unusual move to have made.

sbsquarepants

Red Lightning wrote: »

TaxAHcruel but these beliefs are very important to some people. I'm sure they don't mind if you don't hold similar beliefs but if you bash them for believing then it is very disrespectful.

No belief is in and of itself worthy of respect.

My missuses parents are ultra religious. I have zero respect for any and all religions. That doesn't mean I have no respect for my in laws - they are both great people, they just have some beliefs which I believe are nonsense.

That's my belief, should they have to respect it?

partyguinness

1. Smokers
2. Smokers who throw their fag butts on the ground even when they are standing 2 feet away from a bin
3. Smokers who throw their butts out of the car window while driving- that really sends partyguinness around the bend.
4. Pregnant women who smoke.

If you are a smoker I don't want to know you.

Paddy Cow

partyguinness wrote: »

Yeah I have experienced the funeral thing here too- very impersonal almost an inconvenience.

Sure you know the way it is in Ireland well in the less urban areas anyway. Someone dies- everyone drops everything and the funeral and burial over with in a few days. No excuses.

Over there don't you have to be invited to the funeral, not like here where everyone goes to the wake and church if they can.

Red Lightning

Deleted User wrote:

You have now shifted it to bashing _them_ for having those beliefs. My post just before this one distinguished between doing that (which you should never do) and bashing the belief itself (which we should).

You can bash all the beliefs you want. No skin off my nose but when you do it to someone who it is really important to, it's disrespectful imo and quite a dickish thing to do. I mean the people that completely jump down someone's throat when they mention Religion at all.

sbsquarepants wrote:

My missuses parents are ultra religious. I have zero respect for any and all religions. That doesn't mean I have no respect for my in laws - they are both great people, they just have some beliefs which I believe are nonsense.

That's fair enough but it would be disrespectful if you started arguing with them over their beliefs being 'nonsense' in your words.

Widdershins

Seeing someone join a facebook pile-on.


People who write others off completely for what is, logically , just a human flaw or bad habit, not anything heinous .

Red Lightning

Red Lightning wrote: »

No skin off my nose but when you do it to someone who it is really important to, it's disrespectful imo and quite a dickish thing to do. I mean the people that completely jump down someone's throat when they mention Religion at all.

The second sentence I agree with. But not just with Religion. With anything at all.

The first sentence is a load of tosh though. When the time is right to tear apart a pile of nonsense belief - how important it happens to be to the person holding it could not be less relevant.

Lackey

People who never take any responsibility
Everything that goes wrong is entirely someone else’s fault, and completely out of their control.

partyguinness

I have to deal with my in laws through gritted teeth. The stereo typical Brexit voter

1. White
2. Baby boomer generation retirees
3. Blatant racists/bigots
4. Daily Mail readers;
5. Smokers despite cancer surgery
6. The mother in law has never paid a penny in personal tax in her life- the odd cash in hand cleaning jobs but yet is happy to milk the NHS and rant about emigrants.
7. Will not leave the country (as in England)
8. Pasta and garlic bread is foreign muck- honestly.
9. Passing judgement on our high mortgage even though they were handed a Council house in 1970s so our generation is screwed by house builders- they havent got a fcking clue
10. They believe any old rubbish they read in the Daily Mail.

The are so fcuking small and vanilla it's untrue. Other than that they are grand.

I just console myself knowing that their ongoing health problems has a silver lining and my wife just has just one other sibling so their inheritance will go a long way to paying off our mortgage. Bonus.

Snow Garden

TheAnalyst_ wrote: »

Anti water charges.

Pro corruption and waste

pgj2015

people who hit their kids.


people who smoke in their car with kids in it.

sbsquarepants

Red Lightning wrote: »

That's fair enough but it would be disrespectful if you started arguing with them over their beliefs being 'nonsense' in your words.

I wouldn't argue with anyone over their beliefs unless they we're trying to impose them on me some how. Makes no odds to me what anyone believes, what matters to me is how they expect me to behave because of their beliefs.

The inlaws don't try impose anything on me, they just quietly go about their own religious business.

I think they are wasting their time, they I'm sure think I am blowing my chance at everlasting bliss - we just agree to differ and all's fine!

Red Lightning

Deleted User wrote:

The first sentence is a load of tosh though. When the time is right to tear apart a pile of nonsense belief - how important it happens to be to the person holding it could not be less relevant.

Have to disagree here.

sbsquarepants wrote:

I wouldn't argue with anyone over their beliefs unless they we're trying to impose them on me some how. Makes no odds to me what anyone believes, what matters to me is how they expect me to behave because of their beliefs.

The inlaws don't try impose anything on me, they just quietly go about their own religious business.

I think they are wasting their time, they I'm sure think I am blowing my chance at everlasting bliss - we just agree to differ and all's fine!

That's the right way to deal with it tbh.

branie2

pgj2015 wrote: »

people who hit their kids.


people who smoke in their car with kids in it.

People who leave their kids in cars on boiling hot days with the windows closed

ToddyDoody

branie2 wrote: »

People who leave their kids in cars on boiling hot days with the windows closed

Allowing them burn paper with the old style cigarette lighters, which were so cool.

Red Lightning

Red Lightning wrote: »

Have to disagree here.

Whenever you are ready.

sbsquarepants

Deleted User wrote: »

The first sentence is a load of tosh though. When the time is right to tear apart a pile of nonsense belief - how important it happens to be to the person holding it could not be less relevant.

I agree with you, but some people just lack all tact or diplomacy. It's all down to knowing the difference between when to speak up and when to shut up.

When someone is trying to block your childs entrance to a state funded school for example, or that you'll burn in hell because of your sexual orientation or something like that - then it's fine to have a little rant.

When someone is telling you how they believe their beloved granny is now happy as larry, playing the harp up on a nice fluffy cloud - probably best to just say nothing!

road_high

Paddy Cow wrote: »

Over there don't you have to be invited to the funeral, not like here where everyone goes to the wake and church if they can.

Remember working with a guy over there, really nice guy and his ma died. I was sympathizing and having a chat and he was telling me how nice it was that the boss had gone to the funeral...I was a bit puzzled at first as over here that’s par for the course especially if you’d worked together as long as they had and were close colleagues. One of the biggest differences between the Irish and the English is our approaches to funerals and death. Wonder is it a historical thing, the Black death and all

Paddy Cow

road_high wrote: »

Remember working with a guy over there, really nice guy and his ma died. I was sympathizing and having a chat and he was telling me how nice it was that the boss had gone to the funeral...I was a bit puzzled at first as over here that’s par for the course especially if you’d worked together as long as they had and were close colleagues. One of the biggest differences between the Irish and the English is our approaches to funerals and death. Wonder is it a historical thing, the Black death and all

That has a part to play. Before embalming, bodies had to be buried as quick as possible or they'd start smelling pretty bad. Most people lived in tight knit rural communities and people were able to rally around. It became ingrained in our culture and even in modern times, when there's a death everyone drops everything and helps the family.

With the UK I think it's because they are much larger. They became industralised before us and lost rural traditions. They have more deaths to process and the administration takes longer. It's probably why they have more cremations than Ireland does - they simply don't have the space.

I've skipped several pages of this thread, so, apologies in advance if it has already been posted.

People who lecture others on tolerance, only to show their own intolerance whenever someone doesn't agree with whatever they say....
Especially since that particular mindset is becoming more common!

Ubbquittious

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I've skipped several pages of this thread, so, apologies in advance if it has already been posted.

People who lecture others on tolerance, only to show their own intolerance whenever someone doesn't agree with whatever they say....
Especially since that particular mindset is becoming more common!

There is definitely a tolerant bunch in here