The importance of Breakfast

DelBoy Trotter

completedit wrote: »

People overthink everything, some of the lunches you see in offices nowadays. Just eat a bleeding normal sandwich ffs

Or make extra the night before when making dinner, and eat the leftovers for lunch the next day!

sbsquarepants

AtomicHorror wrote: »

You blaming breakfast for the grey hairs and developing wrinkles too? :pac:

No....They'd be the wifes fault:D

Autecher

sbsquarepants wrote: »

Right now I'm chowing down on a kiwi, a banana and a pear for my lunch. It's nice, it's healthy, but it's also not a chipper!

Think of all that sugar though. You'll get diabetes and have to change your name to sbsugarpants!

branie2

Breakfast sets you up for the day

DelBoy Trotter

DelBoy Trotter wrote: »

Or make extra the night before when making dinner, and eat the leftovers for lunch the next day!

It's even better to just make a load of it, separate it into freezer bags, and you're set. Do it a few times and your freezer becomes a menu.

DelBoy Trotter

Deleted User wrote: »

It's even better to just make a load of it, separate it into freezer bags, and you're set. Do it a few times and your freezer becomes a menu.

Very true. Depending on what I'm making and how well it freezes, I do this also

Naos

branie2 wrote: »

Breakfast sets you up for the day

How?

By the time I'm at work I've already been up hours, I need my fuel. I am not nice when I'm hungry.

If I didn't eat breakfast I'd be a monster. People would die.

jim o doom

Breakfast is not important at all. I don't eat breakfast or lunch four days a week and there's not a bother on me.

Regular twice a week 24 hour fasts have brought my cholesterol and weight down to.. almost not overweight. Even managed a couple of 3 day water only fasts in the last 3 months and still no bother.

Guess we don't need food half as much as the food industry would like us to believe. Now if only my delicious food addicted brain could believe this news, I'd be laughing.

Rubberchikken

sugary cereals are better than nothing.
i know i cant concentrate when im hungry so i can only guess how tough it must be for a kid who mightnt have eaten since early the night before to pay attention in school.

i dont eat cereal or porridge. just tea and toast no matter what hour of the day my breakfast is (i work shifts) and im happy and healthy (for the moment:)

Your Face

I think it depends on the person.
I'd have a big breakfast and a small lunch.
I never liked eating too much during the work day.
Funny how this professor is a consultant with Nestle, who always come across as evil.

oneilla

silverharp wrote: »

if there is anywhere science has been weak is nutrition. The more you look into it the shakier it looks, vested interests, poor studies etc.

I'd agree with that. A few years ago some nutrition/food/diet experts tried to form a consensus at a conference around what to eat more/less of and erm, here's what the chair had to say:

“Ninety minutes into the meeting, we were still trying to agree what the hell a vegetable was,”

https://www.statnews.com/2015/11/24/nutrition-diet-healthy-foods/

sbsquarepants

Autecher wrote: »

Think of all that sugar though. You'll get diabetes and have to change your name to sbsugarpants!

Has a nice ring to it:D

wakka12

pleas advice wrote: »

It's mad that modern humans have been around for forty thousand years, and we still don't know how to eat properly...

everyone knows exactly what it is though, unprocessed,low in salt, sugar and saturated fats, high in fibres and nutrient dense, mostly plant based, mixture of raw and cooked, high in fresh vegetable and some fruits, moderate calories,no extremes of macro or micro nutrients

It works for everyone and is widely known despite still hundreds of studies annually released reiterating pretty much the same thing, but it takes commmitment and effort and theres tastier easier cheaper quicker options in abundance everywhere we look so its hard to focus on health


And as for the controversial breakfast debate, I think its just plain stupid, eat when youre hungry, and dont eat too much, it doesnt matter when you eat during the day, its the quantity. Im starving in the morning,so I eat breakfast always, not because some silly ever changing study result told me to

Weltsmertz

Haven't eaten breakfast regularly in years. More alert in mornings and never hungry.
Up at 6:00am every morning and first food at 2:00pm.
However whether people eat breakfast or not it is clear that ultra processed foods are the real cause of obesity and weight problems
There has been an unshakeable domga pushed by nutritionists for years that it is important and necessary to eat breakfast and that anyone who disagrees is just wrong.
This "expert" came on the show to encourage people to eat sugary processed foods in the morning. And Pat Kenny accepted it as self evidently the right thing to do without questioning it.

Fact is that Professor Gibney is paid by the processed food giants. He gets his money from Nestle and Kelloggs. He is not by any "independent" .

Sabrebo

wakka12 wrote: »

everyone knows exactly what it is though, unprocessed,low in salt, sugar and saturated fats, high in fibres and nutrient dense, mostly plant based, mixture of raw and cooked, high in fresh vegetable and some fruits, moderate calories,no extremes of macro or micro nutrients

It works for everyone and is widely known despite still hundreds of studies annually released reiterating pretty much the same thing, but it takes commmitment and effort and theres tastier easier cheaper quicker options in abundance everywhere we look so its hard to focus on health


And as for the controversial breakfast debate, I think its just plain stupid, eat when youre hungry, and dont eat too much, it doesnt matter when you eat during the day, its the quantity. Im starving in the morning,so I eat breakfast always, not because some silly ever changing study result told me to

Saturated fats are actually good for you, eat real butter, eggs, cream and fatty cuts of meat. It's nutritous and helps you absorb vitamins and minerals from other food.

What you should avoid is vegetable oils,trans fats, wheat and sugary junk food.

wakka12

Sabrebo wrote: »

Saturated fats are actually good for you, eat real butter, eggs, cream and fatty cuts of meat. It's nutritous and helps you absorb vitamins and minerals from other food.

What you should avoid is vegetable oils,trans fats, wheat and sugary junk food.

Well, olive oil for one is associated with longer life spans and several health benefits

Im not aware of any mainstreams health professionals that advise deliberately consuming fatty cuts of meat or butter or cream other than in small quanitities, most advise not to consume them if possible

and fats help absorb some types of vitamins but you can get than from poly unsaturated fats in avocados, olive oil, nuts, seeds

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

If you’re hungry in the morning, eat.

If you aren’t hungry in the morning, don’t eat.

I’m glad that the mantra ‘breakfast is the most important meal of the day’ isn’t considered the gospel it used to be.

Personally, I like breakfast. Even as an intentionally undereating teenager, the breakfast hunger never went away. Why is it so hard for some to believe that the opposite can also be true, that some people never were hungry in the morning and never will be?

dxhound2005

jim o doom wrote: »

Breakfast is not important at all. I don't eat breakfast or lunch four days a week and there's not a bother on me.

Regular twice a week 24 hour fasts have brought my cholesterol and weight down to.. almost not overweight. Even managed a couple of 3 day water only fasts in the last 3 months and still no bother.

Guess we don't need food half as much as the food industry would like us to believe. Now if only my delicious food addicted brain could believe this news, I'd be laughing.

12 or 14 hour fast is enough for me. Which is what I get between my evening meal, and my breakfast.

dartboardio

The days i dont eat breakfast or 3 meals are the days i snack needlessly on crisps or chocolate or general ****

khaldrogo

Deleted User wrote:

Who wants a started metabolism just so you're more starving at lunch? More calories in the morning, and more at lunch.

I don't normally eat until 12pm and I'm fine with it. Not starving or anything. However, if I do eat earlier I find I'm hungry again in no time...

jim o doom

dxhound2005 wrote: »

12 or 14 hour fast is enough for me. Which is what I get between my evening meal, and my breakfast.

If you allow your body to go 18 hours without food, your body starts producing glucagon rather than insulin (one removes energy from fat stores, on stores energy as fat).

This is very beneficial in terms of simple weight loss, but also aids in preventing diabetes. I've always had a very sweet tooth and struggled with keeping weight off, I've found this sort of fasting works pretty well for me compared to other styles of diet.

Each to their own though, fasting is terrible for some people.

BrokenArrows

AtomicHorror wrote: »

You blaming breakfast for the grey hairs and developing wrinkles too? :pac:

Nope, thats caused by the stress of dealing with a jiggly belly. :D:D

AbusesToilets

Solid protein intake in the morning, some eggs and toast for example.

Sabrebo

wakka12 wrote: »

Well, olive oil for one is associated with longer life spans and several health benefits

Im not aware of any mainstreams health professionals that advise deliberately consuming fatty cuts of meat or butter or cream other than in small quanitities, most advise not to consume them if possible

and fats help absorb some types of vitamins but you can get than from poly unsaturated fats in avocados, olive oil, nuts, seeds

That's exactly the problem with nutritional "science", reliance on links and associations and not identifying and separating cause and effect amongst variables.

Polyunsaturated fats are actually the fats which should be consumed in much more limited quantities.

jim o doom

Yester wrote: »

Eat when you're hungry, drink when you're dry.

A lot of hunger is habitual hunger. You get hungry at a certain time of day, because you always eat roughly around then.

A person may be obese and vastly overweight, and get habitually hungry all the time, despite their massive frame.

Eating when hungry is by no means the ideal choice. It is good for people who already have a reasonable diet and don't get weird hunger cravings as a result.

Weltsmertz

jim o doom wrote: »

A lot of hunger is habitual hunger. You get hungry at a certain time of day, because you always eat roughly around then.

Exactly. Those that say they need breakfast don't realize that they feel hungry in the morning because they habitualy eat in the morning. If you don't routinely eat in the morning then you won't be hungry in the morning.
I very rarely have breakfast and am never hungry in the morning.

Which is why it is so important for the cereal companies and their paid shill the learned professor Gibney to stress the importance of getting children into the habit of eating their processed sugary products every morning. To set habits that they hope will last a lifetime.

Richard Hillman

Lunch is most important. Big lunch, small dinner. Small lunch, big dinner. Whereas if you have breakfast at say 7-8am, you're still going to be as hungry at 12-1pm as you are even if you forewent breakfast.

A small breakfast, like a banana and a cup of tea would get you through until 12 or so.

Graces7

One of my worst teenage memories is of being forced to eat shredded wheat with hot milk, skin and all, before being allowed to go to school... mother was terrified of us going out without breakfast.. shudders

Yeah, genuinely odd. Everyone I know who just skips it is doing fine. I'm a believer in calories in calories out, and if I'm less hungry at 12 than when I've eaten breakfast, I don't really see the point.

If the breakfast is healthy and you're happy with your weight, fair enough. Otherwise, just leave it be. Eat a banana at 10 if you're struggling.

silverharp

Compared to a lot of cereals, nothing would be an improvement

https://twitter.com/Mangan150/status/1111236211035664384

I've lived a diabetic diet for a fair amount of time before for a false scare. The glycemic index is fascinating. Sugarcane and sweet potato despite their names, are very good for diabetics.

I still stick to the diet mostly cause I reckon it's good for me. Soda is my new Cola etc.

Lisa2011

My niece who is 5 is still adjusting to early mornings after starting school.

The biggest problem is that its a struggle to get her to eat breakfast.

At times it results in my brother leaving 5 minutes late to take her to school.

If i posted in the right thread is there any suggestions as to how to encourage her to eat before school.

My brother doesnt want her going on an empty stomach.

I see sheep

Lisa2011 wrote: »

My niece who is 5 is still adjusting to early mornings after starting school.

The biggest problem is that its a struggle to get her to eat breakfast.

At times it results in my brother leaving 5 minutes late to take her to school.

If i posted in the right thread is there any suggestions as to how to encourage her to eat before school.

My brother doesnt want her going on an empty stomach.

Could she/they get up a bit earlier?

biko

Growing up we would eat a handful of hot gravel for breakfast in my house, that's how poor we were.

Raconteuse

I never feel like breakfast until at least 10.30 so what would be the point of eating when I don't feel hungry?

I also only eat eggs and occasionally a grilled rasher. Bread would be very rare (and just a small bit of wholegrain). I don't get the porridge thing at all. It's pure stodge - makes me feel absolutely starving very quickly.

I use most energy in the evening when I exercise after work so that's when I eat most.

I was talking about diet to a woman recently who is highly intelligent and sensible usually, yet she buys into all this "breakfast like a king, lunch like a prince and dine like a pauper" rubbish. Don't eat after 7.30 - as arbitrary as that. I go for a run at about 9pm in the summer, therefore no, I will not starve myself at that hour.

Lirange

I tend to eat a small amount of fruit or nuts on the way out the door. Either a Banana, apple wedges, or a modest handful of mixed nuts. Just to keep things moving. If I go too long without eating the next meal will go right through me.

OldRio

biko wrote: »

Growing up we would eat a handful of hot gravel for breakfast in my house, that's how poor we were.

Spoilt you were. We dreamed of hot gravel.

(God I miss the Pythons.)

Bobblehats

Raconteuse wrote: »

I never feel like breakfast until at least 10.30 so what would be the point of eating when I don't feel hungry?

I also only eat eggs and occasionally a grilled rasher. Bread would be very rare (and just a small bit of wholegrain). I don't get the porridge thing at all. It's pure stodge - makes me feel absolutely starving very quickly.

I use most energy in the evening when I exercise after work so that's when I eat most.

I was talking about diet to a woman recently who is highly intelligent and sensible usually, yet she buys into all this "breakfast like a king, lunch like a prince and dine like a pauper" rubbish. Don't eat after 7.30 - as arbitrary as that. I go for a run at about 9pm in the summer, therefore no, I will not starve myself at that hour.

I generally stick to the porridge thing. For fibre sake can’t say I don’t feel hungry that early anyway and I definitely don’t feel a lack of energy having been invigorated by way of sleep / shower. Also I got in the habit of rehydrating first thing some years back so that’s nearly 2 litres of water filling me up.

Tbh food can be a chore due to acid reflux from just about everything but I will need to get back on track with the whole excercise / nutrition thing at some point when I turn over my shed. Need to earn an appetite

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

kneemos wrote: »

More calories at breakfast and lunch means you will work them off during the day.

The evening meal is the one to skip if you must.

If you eat a set amount of calories every day, it doesn’t matter in what formation you eat them.

wakka12

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

If you eat a set amount of calories every day, it doesn’t matter in what formation you eat them.

I dont know why this is so hard for people to comprehend, I think some people just cannot practice moderation in a healthy way and feel the need to always be under some kind of stringent dietary conditions in order to restrain themselves or feel they are making any progress

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

wakka12 wrote: »

I dont know why this is so hard for people to comprehend, I think some people just cannot practice moderation in a healthy way and feel the need to always be under some kind of stringent dietary conditions in order to restrain themselves or feel they are making any progress

I was trying to get this across to my MIL, that the exercise she does burns X amount of calories but that those calories, that energy, can be taken in in various ways at various times and it’s all the same. She wasn’t having any of it and I didn’t belabour the point. I think people want to believe it will be easier to lose weight if they follow some arbitrary rules when in reality, nothing makes it easier.

If I eat breakfast I’ll eat more during the day.

Gael23

A good breakfast gets the bowels moving

is_that_so

I like it for the reflection time it gives you. Food, coffee in particular, is good too!

I have to eat in the morning. I'd usually get a run or swim in first so I'd be actively hungry rather than it just being habit. If I didn't eat a decent brekkie I'd suffer for it, and so would everyone around me. Porridge or eggs or both, don't really go for box cereal at all and they are mostly pretty unhealthy.

cj maxx

Gael23 wrote: »

A good breakfast gets the bowels moving

So does coffee

cj maxx

Can't remember when I had a good breakfast last. I'm just not hungry first thing or too busy. Generally eat around 10+

izzyflusky

Personally, breakfast is my favourite meal of the day. I could easily (before I was pregnant anyway, I'm hungry all the time nowadays) easily skip lunch. But breakfast I HAVE to have. It wasn't always the case, growing up we were made eat breakfast whether we were hungry or not.

I also ensure that my kids eat breakfast before school. I try to vary between porridge, scrambled eggs and brown toast, toast a piece of fruit and a yogurt...etc, they always have milk. The odd time they might have multigrain Cheerios or the like but we try to avoid it as much as possible.

I find that the time they get for lunch in school is not enough to get anything decent into them and the lack of hot meals is not ideal. It can be a long day, especially if they have sports after class...etc. So I do think it's important for them to eat well before leaving the house. Luckily they love breakfast and welcome it.

i made a no pastry quiche with eggs and bacon and some potato for this week's breakfasts and it's the best

and bell pepper and onion because veg