Conor McGregor thread (MMA Talk Only - Read 1st Post Before Posting)

Homelander

Conor is still an excellent fighter. The way he minced Cowboy shows that. Yeah, sure, Cowboy will never be anything other than a gatekeeper, but let's be real here - while beating Cowboy in the top 15 is no great shakes, demolishing him in 40 odd seconds is not to be sniffed at either.

Look through all his recent losses - only Justin put him out in the first round, and it was nowhere near as fast and devastating as Conor.

I don't think it's outlandish to think Justin could whup Conor either, but it would be an amazing, competitive match up that could go either way.

I would much rather see that than than Conor V Khabib II (which he would likely lose) or Diaz III.

Or even Conor v Tony at this point. Going for Khabib again is just painfully transparent. But I suppose can't blame a guy going for the money train either. His record is still exceptional, he could chalk up a string of losses and still have a) a good record and b) major draw power.

He probably has an overall strategy in place like high risk/low risk/high risk, unto infinitum as long as he wants to make cash. Realistically he could fight for 5 more years and make countless millions alternating between high/lower risk fights.

derfderf

I'm not Khabib's biggest fan, but who are the lightweight greats he should have fought, but didn't? With the exception of Tony, he's fought the most logical, available, person each time from what I can see.

fitzparker

yourdeadwright wrote: »

The whole Ali think makes little to no sense to me,
The amount of guys he manages who are pro "USA USA " but yet have him as there manger ,

Makes no sense to me at all ,

I'm the same the whole set up is strange.

On twitter he gets more praise as a manager when "his" fighters win then their trainers do.

its weird, he reminds me of puff daddy with biggie smalls, he is like a manager in WWE he is that involved with the fighters, im surprised he isnt in their corner half the time.

Mellor

Ush1 wrote: »

The poster mentioned it should be against the law, they are both simply words in the eyes of the law.

Not referring to previous situations specifically.
You can be legally accountable for things you say. Including things you say online. The idea that everything is simply words in the eyes of the law is completely wrong.

Mike Tyson said he was gonna eat Lennox Lewis' children, would you jail him based on those words?

One of the more bizarre moments in Tyson career.
He was promoting a fight with Lewis, and said it to Lewis, not to his kids. I highly doubt that Lewis was concerned about his children or that they knew anything about it.

McGregor didn't just "mention" Khabibs da, wife and religion but sure ya knew that.

You're the one that reduced the comment to "Ali mentioned" not me. I'm really not sure what point you are making or defending anymore, so maybe best to leave it.

derfderf wrote: »

I'm not Khabib's biggest fan, but who are the lightweight greats he should have fought, but didn't? With the exception of Tony, he's fought the most logical, available, person each time from what I can see.

Recently he has fought the best available guy in the division. Obviously not as he's building the streak. From here there should be a constant contender ready to challenge if he stays champion.

derfderf

Mellor wrote: »

Recently he has fought the best available guy in the division. Obviously not as he's building the streak. From here there should be a constant contender ready to challenge if he stays champion.

If he beats Justin (who's only really come into the picture recently), and Tony, who's left for him? He's beaten the only two former champions he's had a realistic opportunity to fight.

It's just strange, the LW division is usually called the most competitive (along with WW), but Khabib comes close to clearing it out and he's beaten nobody according to some.

Mellor

derfderf wrote: »

If he beats Justin (who's only really come into the picture recently), and Tony, who's left for him? He's beaten the only two former champions he's had a realistic opportunity to fight.

I think whoever rises out of Hooker, Felder, Oliveira will be the best contender (outside of rematches).

I'd only give one out of the three a realistic a chance in catching him.

Brock Turnpike

Where to next for McG? Surely he has to look to fight Justin?

Only real issue there is, if he wins, his only realistic fight at LW after that is Khabib again. Not sure it's a fight he wants?

yourdeadwright

derfderf wrote: »

If he beats Justin (who's only really come into the picture recently), and Tony, who's left for him? He's beaten the only two former champions he's had a realistic opportunity to fight.

It's just strange, the LW division is usually called the most competitive (along with WW), but Khabib comes close to clearing it out and he's beaten nobody according to some.

I don't think Lightweight division is great at all I don't think its ever been that good, As the UFC want you to think

Frankie was the champ and he basically a feather weight,

Ben Henderson good solid fighter but hardly steller

Pettis losses as much as he wins

RDA was on a tear but lost to the likes of Guida, Tibau , Tyson Grififn , Jermey stephans

Eddie Alvarez in my eyes the most overated lightweight ever , had two stinkers before he beat RDA and lost 3 of 5 since,

Then we have Conor came up from feather weight and absolutely wrecked Alvarez,

To me the Davison has good fights as the guys are all similar good fighter but not really elite,

Id have loved to see Khabib against a fully fit Conor I'm one of few who think Conor has a big chance, Pity Ferguson never got his shot he's getting on to for a light weight ,

Doff

Fully fit Conor still loses to Khabib for me.

Mellor

Brock Turnpike wrote: »

Where to next for McG? Surely he has to look to fight Justin?

Only real issue there is, if he wins, his only realistic fight at LW after that is Khabib again. Not sure it's a fight he wants?

#1 Justin is fighting Khabib.
#2 Tony is probably taking time off.
#3 Poirier is available
#4 Conor
#5 Hooker available
#6 Felder available

Brock Turnpike

Mellor wrote: »

#1 Justin is fighting Khabib.
#2 Tony is probably taking time off.
#3 Poirier is available
#4 Conor
#5 Hooker available
#6 Felder available

Yes, but realistically. Is he going to be looking at the #5 or #6 ranked contender? No money in those fights.

He's already fought and beaten Poirier (who let's not forget couldn't take Khabib as far as an unfocused McG did)

So it's only Tony, Justin, Khabib

Mr. Karate

derfderf wrote: »

If he beats Justin (who's only really come into the picture recently).

If Conor genuinely believed he could beat Justin then he would have fought him in January. Instead he chose Cowboy, a guy's pretty much on his way to retirement.

robwen

Brock Turnpike wrote: »

Where to next for McG? Surely he has to look to fight Justin?

Only real issue there is, if he wins, his only realistic fight at LW after that is Khabib again. Not sure it's a fight he wants?

He's clearly trying to get the Justin fight for July, will Justin take the money fight while it's there or wait for the Khabib showdown after Ramadan

Man Vs ManUre

robwen wrote: »

He's clearly trying to get the Justin fight for July, will Justin take the money fight while it's there or wait for the Khabib showdown after Ramadan

Can an interim title holder defend it vs another fighter instead of taking on the champ if Khabib is available?? I guess the rules can just be made up as they go along.
When it comes to Conor I’m just happy to see him back fighting, and he seems willing to take anyone on. There are many great opponents.

eagle eye

Mr. Karate wrote:

If Conor genuinely believed he could beat Justin then he would have fought him in January. Instead he chose Cowboy, a guy's pretty much on his way to retirement.

Another one who doesn't get it. Cowboy was a bigger draw in January which means more money.
Gaethje is a bigger draw now and Conor is claiming they'll meet in July. Why would he want to meet him now after his last performance if he wanted to avoid him in January? I'll give you the answer, money.

Still Ill

There's no way Cowboy was a bigger draw in January. All Gaethje's fights in the UFC have been excellent. And he'd already beaten Cowboy easily.

yourdeadwright

Doff wrote: »

Fully fit Conor still loses to Khabib for me.

Ye possible but he had some decent parts of rounds and even won one round,

I'm by no means a big fan of Conor but he certainly was no where near his normal self movement or snap wise ,A bit like I Ferguson the other night it just wasn't him out there,

yourdeadwright

Still Ill wrote: »

There's no way Cowboy was a bigger draw in January. All Gaethje's fights in the UFC have been excellent. And he'd already beaten Cowboy easily.

I think to the causal fan who there are more of Cowboy at that point was a bigger draw ,
Now Justin is a bigger draw then and now Justin was a tuffer fight ,

eagle eye

Still Ill wrote:

There's no way Cowboy was a bigger draw in January. All Gaethje's fights in the UFC have been excellent. And he'd already beaten Cowboy easily.

Before the weekend Gaethje had only fought on one ppv card.
I think that tells you all you need to know as to where he stood as far as popularity is concerned.

yourdeadwright

eagle eye wrote: »

Before the weekend Gaethje had only fought on one ppv card.
I think that tells you all you need to know as to where he stood as far as popularity is concerned.

100% CORRECT
People seem to forget its not about how you personally rate Gaethje its about how well know he is to the causal MMA fan , and as you pointed out they probably only seen him once before,

Mellor

robwen wrote: »

He's clearly trying to get the Justin fight for July, will Justin take the money fight while it's there or wait for the Khabib showdown after Ramadan

Ramadan is over in 10 days.

Man Vs ManUre wrote: »

Can an interim title holder defend it vs another fighter instead of taking on the champ if Khabib is available?? I guess the rules can just be made up as they go along.

The HW and Interim HW titles where on the line at consecutive PPVs.
Randy v Lesnar and Nog v Mir.

Man Vs ManUre

The January fight was 1st step in repairing his image a bit. So we got charming and respectful Conor back instead of angry/rude Conor that faced Khabib. So cerrone was the most ideal component, with Gatche it would have been but nasty again. With that fight in jan and his efforts with corona, Conor has done a lot of repair work. Now he can step it up a notch and revert to the macho mind games, tho hopefully not go so nasty as he did with Khabib. I think when Conor appeared in court and told the judge he would not be there again, he was very sincere. He was saying from back then also that he would fight 3 or 4 times this year, obviously this was interrupted by corona but he may still make 3. Justin/Diaz/Masvidal in July then Khabib in msg or Vegas in December is very possible.

monty_python

yourdeadwright wrote: »

I think to the causal fan who there are more of Cowboy at that point was a bigger draw ,
Now Justin is a bigger draw then and now Justin was a tuffer fight ,

Plus the history between Connor and cowboy
Also maybe McGregor wanted to give cowboy a pay day because he liked him sort of??

looking at the saturday fight, it's obvious Justin has no cardio issues at 155, so it would be a good fight but I think a fit McGregor will win out only because I don't see alot of difference stylistically between justin and eddie Álvarez.

He has a decend right hook but tony was there to be hit, McGregor will not be and he's amazing with distance too. Justin is very wild and like many, could easily walk into a rocker of a left hook. I see a fit focused McGregor doing it and maybe even in 3 rounds.

The Floyd p

monty_python wrote: »

Plus the history between Connor and cowboy
Also maybe McGregor wanted to give cowboy a pay day because he liked him sort of??

From what was reported Cowboy didn't do as well as you might think.

robwen

Mellor wrote: »

Ramadan is over in 10 days.


The HW and Interim HW titles where on the line at consecutive PPVs.
Randy v Lesnar and Nog v Mir.

That's great had it in my head Khabib wasn't available till around September, seeing reports now saying he's looking to fight in July & Dana saying Justin Khabib for fight island in July but Justin said in his post fight presser...

“I’m not fighting in July. Fu*k that! [I will] probably [fight] in August, September. Something like that.”

xtal191

https://twitter.com/TheNotoriousMMA/status/1260445812024389637

mdwexford

eagle eye wrote: »

Before the weekend Gaethje had only fought on one ppv card.
I think that tells you all you need to know as to where he stood as far as popularity is concerned.

He has headlined all four cards he has been on in between those two ppv’s.

That tells you how his popularity is.

What a nonsense post.

Ush1

Mellor wrote: »

Not referring to previous situations specifically.
You can be legally accountable for things you say. Including things you say online. The idea that everything is simply words in the eyes of the law is completely wrong.

Not the point I was making really at all.

Mellor wrote: »

One of the more bizarre moments in Tyson career.
He was promoting a fight with Lewis, and said it to Lewis, not to his kids. I highly doubt that Lewis was concerned about his children or that they knew anything about it.

Yeah cos I'd say Conor and Dee are terrified of Ali. Pull the other one mate will ya.

Mellor wrote: »

You're the one that reduced the comment to "Ali mentioned" not me. I'm really not sure what point you are making or defending anymore, so maybe best to leave it.

Disingenuous. For purposes of comparison and satire, Conor insulted Khabibs father to his face, insulted his wife and his religion numerous times, Ali mentioned Conor's girlfriend.

I'm not sure the point you are making, Conor and Ali have both done some scummy things it looks like to me.

eagle eye

mdwexford wrote:

He has headlined all four cards he has been on in between those two ppv’s.

]He has headlined all four cards he has been on in between those two ppv’s.
That tells you how his popularity is.
What a nonsense post.

Avid watchers like you and me would know plenty about him but the big show fans wouldn't but they'd know Cowboy very well.
Another person has already said this but I didn't see you call their post nonsense.

eagle eye

eagle eye wrote: »

So you are ok with people using the N word to black people, the F to gay people then if it's only words?

Just accept you are wrong here. Threatening to rape somebody is a whole lot more serious than anything McGregor has done. And I'm not taking McGregor's side here, I detest the way he went on for a couple of years. I get that it was about money but I never liked it for a second.

I can tell you if somebody said they were going to rape my wife I'd be calling a garda immediately and if they couldn't do something about it I'd find another way to do something about it.

No you wouldn't. In much the same way that if someone said "I'll ****ing murder you" in athe heat of an argument or in public, you wouldn't actually contact the Garda even if you were not actually in fear of your life?

Do you actually think there was a CREDIBLE threat of rape or do you think it was said to get under the skin of someone who has been accused of rape?

You would call the guards and if they did nothing you would assault the person? Should they call the guards then?

A ****ing world of difference between a credible threat and what was said.

The fact you'd even mention the Garda is laughable.

eagle eye

Deleted User wrote:

You would call the guards and if they did nothing you would assault the person? Should they call the guards then?

I never said I'd assault anyone. I said I'd find some way to make him pay.
Tbh if anybody said they were going to rape another man's wife/partner and he kicked the lard out of him for it I'd be very upset if it wasn't thrown out of court.

eagle eye

Ush1 wrote:

Disingenuous. For purposes of comparison and satire, Conor insulted Khabibs father to his face, insulted his wife and his religion numerous times, Ali mentioned Conor's girlfriend.

He didn't 'mention' his girlfriend, didn't call her ugly, or a slut or stupid, he said he was going to rape her. Ffs are you braindead or what? That's extremely serious.

Ush1

eagle eye wrote: »

He didn't 'mention' his girlfriend, didn't call her ugly, or a slut or stupid, he said he was going to rape her. Ffs are you braindead or what? That's extremely serious.

Get the sand out of your vadge mate, chill out.

I think calling his wife and towel and insulting the Islamic faith is considered fairly serious by those lads. If you want to see people literally put to death for their words, look no further than the middle east.

eagle eye

eagle eye wrote: »

I never said I'd assault anyone. I said I'd find some way to make him pay.
Tbh if anybody said they were going to rape another man's wife/partner and he kicked the lard out of him for it I'd be very upset if it wasn't thrown out of court.

What if he said he would kill you? Why is your emotional response to the word rape worse than the word kill? Nowt to do with anything man. I can't be held responsible for your emotion.

The fact is, you are advocating for words to be a crime, I'm advocating that McGregor should embrace ****e talk because he made a career out of it.

clsmooth

Ush1 wrote: »

Get the sand out of your vadge mate, chill out.

I think calling his wife and towel and insulting the Islamic faith is considered fairly serious by those lads. If you want to see people literally put to death for their words, look no further than the middle east.

Classy

bmcc10

Changed his tune.


https://twitter.com/TheNotoriousMMA/status/1260692062510465026?s=20

Nigzcurran

He’s very good at playing good Conor/ bad Conor!

Ush1

Quite the turnaround from bang of sh*te off your da.

mdwexford

Give it a rest.

Hopefully he pulls through.

US2

Looks like Conor v gathje next so

The Floyd p

mdwexford wrote: »

Give it a rest.

Hopefully he pulls through.

I sincerely hope he pulls through, it's clear that Khabib's father is a lifelong coach with serious skills. It would be fair to say, however, that McGregor is saving face by saying this. Either it's just business and he wishes no ill will, or it's WAR like he whips his fans up into thinking.

derfderf

Mr. Karate wrote: »

If Conor genuinely believed he could beat Justin then he would have fought him in January. Instead he chose Cowboy, a guy's pretty much on his way to retirement.

I was talking about who Khabib has left to fight, not Conor.

Mellor

The Floyd p wrote: »

I sincerely hope he pulls through, it's clear that Khabib's father is a lifelong coach with serious skills. It would be fair to say, however, that McGregor is saving face by saying this. Either it's just business and he wishes no ill will, or it's WAR like he whips his fans up into thinking.

It's just a sport. Antics aside, there's no way Conor or anyone wishes to see Khabib's dad pass away.

The twitter trolls are cretins.

EagererBeaver

Ush1 wrote: »

Get the sand out of your vadge mate, chill out.

And people complain about the inability of MMA fans to stop giving themselves a bad rep.

What age are you ffs?

Ush1

EagererBeaver wrote: »

And people complain about the inability of MMA fans to stop giving themselves a bad rep.

What age are you ffs?

I'm 35, how would you reply to the post I was replying to? Guy is clearly very emotional. "ffs", bitta sand there yourself?

Doff

Maybe Conors just bipolar. Would explain a lot tbh.

Tazzimus

The Floyd p wrote: »

I sincerely hope he pulls through, it's clear that Khabib's father is a lifelong coach with serious skills. It would be fair to say, however, that McGregor is saving face by saying this. Either it's just business and he wishes no ill will, or it's WAR like he whips his fans up into thinking.

Or, you know, he was promoting a fight..

Man Vs ManUre

I cringe when I hear Conor still going on about the bus thing, and posting pics of Khabib. Did he seriously expect Khabib to go outside and participate in that embarrassing attempt at whatever it was. It was a day or 2 before his fight, in middle of a weight cut, outnumbered 10/1 even if his few buddies joined in with him. Conor was far too emotional during this time of his life and all run up to Khabib fight.

EoineyM

Uh oh, he's back praying again!!!!Can't believer some people are so easily fooled by by such obvious attempts to repair a brand that was tarnished due to behaviour outside the Octagon. Audie to Conor - "Dont worry about those "mishaps", just pray for everyone and everything, it will all be forgotten". Seems he is right. Driven by damage to his earning potential, nothing more.