Formula 1 2019 - Round 2 – Bahrain

skipper_G

Jordan 199 wrote: »

Grosjean gets a three place grid penalty. He qualified 8th before the penalty, but will start in 11th now.

Thoroughly deserved, the block on Norris was dangerous

pjohnson

Leclerc was consistent

Harika

Very visual to see how the Mercedes engine mode in Q3 kicks in and catapults them forward.

pjohnson

Harika wrote: »

Very visual to see how the Mercedes engine mode in Q3 kicks in and catapults them forward.

Still didnt catapult them past Leclercs Q2 time.

Harika

pjohnson wrote: »

Still didnt catapult them past Leclercs Q2 time.

From Q2 to Q3, everyone jumps a car length forward, the Mercedes 1 1/2 to 2 lengths.

dublinman1990

Charles LeClerc. You absolute legend. Well played on getting that pole. You played a blinder.

Seeing this on Channel 4 tonight made me a happy man.

flazio

Grosjean got pretty close to a race ban last year. He's on course for another (penalty) points haul this year.

johnnysmack

What's the difference between this week's Ferrari and last weeks? Where have they found the time?

Adamocovic

recyclebin wrote: »

Ferrari in awkward position now. Wonder what's in Vettel and Le Clercs contract....

We'll Ferrari since the start seem adamant they don't mind who's winning, rather they just don't want battling that can cause mistakes or crashes.

Think quote was even today.

"Charles is allowed to go as fast as he can. He's allowed to go for pole, he's allowed to stay ahead. We are not stopping him doing that.

"I think it is important that our two drivers are not fighting and taking any risks battling together."

Maybe it's bull by Ferrari but for them I think it wouldn't matter if either Vettel or Leclerc win. If Vettel a multiple champion brings it back to them. Brilliant. If Leclerc a young driver many see as the next dominant person in the sport. Brilliant.

Hard to know if Vettel has something in the contract but I'm hopeful that there won't be any obvious messing about to give Vettel the win, at least not at this stage.

mickdw

If they are running together on track it won't surprise me if they manage to get Vettel in front. That doesn't really worry me so much. Leclerc will have the beating of him and if he keeps doing what he did today, he will come out on top.

mickdw

Jordan 199 wrote: »

Grosjean gets a three place grid penalty. He qualified 8th before the penalty, but will start in 11th now.

I'm never seen f1 braking capability so clearly demonstrated as when Lando came up behind the crawling Grosjean. The speed differential was huge and he almost instantly got it down. Grosjean planting the accelerator helped too but its stunning on-board footage.

chicorytip

Jordan 199 wrote:

Grosjean gets a three place grid penalty. He qualified 8th before the penalty, but will start in 11th now.

Harsh. There was no real danger of a collision. Magnussen constantly gets away with what appear to be deliberate blocking manouvres.

skipper_G

chicorytip wrote: »

Harsh. There was no real danger of a collision. Magnussen constantly gets away with what appear to be deliberate blocking manouvres.

It wasn’t harsh, Grosjean was parked on the racing line on an out lap. Norris was coming at full racing speed on a flying lap. It was dangerous and unnecessary.

pjohnson

Kvyat was accidentally sent out on worn tyres for his final Q2 run.

Thats hilariously bad.

Joeface

skipper_G wrote:

It wasn’t harsh, Grosjean was parked on the racing line on an out lap. Norris was coming at full racing speed on a flying lap. It was dangerous and unnecessary.

Norris is blaming Vettel for the whole thing .

antodeco

mickdw wrote: »

I'm never seen f1 braking capability so clearly demonstrated as when Lando came up behind the crawling Grosjean. The speed differential was huge and he almost instantly got it down. Grosjean planting the accelerator helped too but its stunning on-board footage.

It was unbelievable. First time I've properly seen speed/braking show up on the TV. His speed catching up was crazy and his ability to come to a stop (without locking up!) was even more phenomenal!

skipper_G

Joeface wrote: »

Norris is blaming Vettel for the whole thing .

I read that, Vettel passed Grosjean into the final corner which is against driver etiquette. Grosjean felt he had to back off completely to have space for his flying lap, but it's still his responsibility to do so safely. The team didn't tell him Norris was approaching, they are partly accountable as well. The speed differential was 136 km/hr, the potential for a serious incident was there. Sky made the point that Haas are the only team on the grid who don't inform their drivers of such traffic, that means either Haas are doing something wrong or 90% of the teams are.

pjohnson

Someone updated the qualifying picture to include Williams. As brutal as expected

Inviere

pjohnson wrote: »

Someone updated the qualifying picture to include Williams. As brutal as expected

That's unreal. With a PU that'll be in title contention, it's a shocking indicator of their chassis/aero failures. Claire was on C4 yesterday evening being interviewed, and while she was happy to hold her hand up and admit fault, she made the point that the current trend of inter-team 'collaboration', ie, unofficial b-teams, isn't helping their case. I felt it was hard to disagree with her, but that diagram shows just how far off they are, regardless of whatever else is going on.

pjohnson

Inviere wrote: »

That's unreal. With a PU that'll be in title contention, it's a shocking indicator of their chassis/aero failures. Claire was on C4 yesterday evening being interviewed, and while she was happy to hold her hand up and admit fault, she made the point that the current trend of inter-team 'collaboration', ie, unofficial b-teams, isn't helping their case. I felt it was hard to disagree with her, but that diagram shows just how far off they are, regardless of whatever else is going on.

It must surely be one of, if not the worst built cars in the 21st century. Given the fact he has such a strong PU to still be this slow. The likes of Minardi/Virgin/Hispania/Caterham were generally using Cosworth engines which was never gunna have enough power. To drag the Merc engine that far back is almost impressive.

Inviere

Conversely, I'm quite impressed with McLaren (never thought I'd be saying that any time soon!). They outperformed their works team PU supplier, meaning the chassis/aero design hasn't gone full Williams.

Inviere

Also hugely impressed with Le Clerc, not just because of how fast he was, but how he spoke after getting pole. One thing that used to annoy me about Vettel in his Red Bull days, was that he'd celebrate every pole like he'd just won a championship. Here's Charles, his first ever pole in F1, and he was already talking about the race. He seems so cool and collected.

SCOOP 64

Thats handy its live on sky one, wont have to wait til tonight on ch4.

chicorytip

Inviere wrote:

Also hugely impressed with Le Clerc, not just because of how fast he was, but how he spoke after getting pole. One thing that used to annoy me about Vettel in his Red Bull days, was that he'd celebrate every pole like he'd just won a championship. Here's Charles, his first ever pole in F1, and he was already talking about the race. He seems so cool and collected.

He's an anodyne young man. Most of these new kids on the block, with the exception of Verstappen, are boring personalities.

Inviere

chicorytip wrote: »

He's an anodyne young man. Most of these new kids on the block, with the exception of Verstappen, are boring personalities.

He's only had one race with Ferrari, so he's obviously not going to rock the boat by getting angsty. I'll hold judgement until I see him in the midst of a title battle, that brings out the heat in most anyone. Even at that, while he might lack that predatory persona ala Verstappen, he just comes across as a very decent human being who deserves all the success he might find.

Inviere

The Sky build up-pre race stuff is horrendous

Thomhic312

The kid interviewing bottas was good.

Inviere

Vettel's moustache, he has to have lost a bet there

Rossi IRL

I don't get this fealing often but I reckon there will be a pile up in turn 1 or 2

skipper_G

The wind is noticeably stronger, crosswind at turn 4.

I'm excited for this one, come on Leclerc

antodeco

Safety car by lap 2 I reckon. Hamilton and Vettel to touch.

I keep thinking the Ferrari is a McLaren on the onboard as it's so orange looking

AMKC

Go Leclerc or Vettel for the win go Ferrari.

skipper_G

Vettel had the better start

Cool_CM

Love the sparks

This is it

Horrible start for LeClerc

And just as I type he takes Bottas!!

Harika

Leclerc creeping back to vettel

Cool_CM

Poor Sainz,he was looking well on to overtake Max for 5th

Adamocovic

Looked like Leclerc was too concerned about Hamilton behind him, coupled with a poor start let Vettel and Bottas go by him the far side.

Still young and maybe nerves got to him but he's turning it around now, hope he can win it.

This is it

This will be interesting...

Rossi IRL

Piss off Verstappen

skipper_G

Get in there Charlie boy

Harika

Vettel to retire end of the year

PsychoPete

Fantastic stuff from Leclerc

Simon Gruber Says

LeClerc showing Vettel how it's done.

deafroadrunner

Great race so far

Adamocovic

Brilliant by Leclerc!

Harika

Tyres are very sensitive as Hamilton is now catching vettel

Harika

Hulkenberg up to 8th

skipper_G

Bad to worse for Gasly, 5.6 seconds pit stop. He's fighting with Toro Rossos, the irony

Rossi IRL

skipper_G wrote: »

Bad to worse for Gasly, 5.6 seconds pit stop. He's fighting with Toro Rossos, the irony

I don't rate him atall