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Bought a mini PC with Windows 10? After set up, it's so slow and barely usable...

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  • 29-03-2019 12:27am
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    Any advice welcome CPU usage at 70-100pc


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  • Registered Users Posts: 176 ✭✭glomar


    anything .. specs ad build information be useful
    could be windows updates or windows defendor running updates in the backround


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,948 ✭✭✭0gac3yjefb5sv7


    glomar wrote: »
    anything .. specs ad build information be useful
    could be windows updates or windows defendor running updates in the backround

    Sure, see below:

    Fanless Mini PC,Intel x5-Z8350 HD Graphics Desktop Computer,Windows 10 64-bit,DDR3L 2GB/32GB eMMC/4K/Built-in WiFi/BT 4.0


  • Registered Users Posts: 176 ✭✭glomar


    entry level proc .. storage not great either .
    any bloatware installed or did you do a vanila instalation ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,948 ✭✭✭0gac3yjefb5sv7


    glomar wrote: »
    entry level proc .. storage not great either .
    any bloatware installed or did you do a vanila instalation ?

    Didn't install anything yet, just downloaded Chrome...it's even lagging when opening a new tab or clicking out of an application...


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    your 32gb emmc is very likely already mostly full, and certainly one or two windows updates will fill it

    this limits the amount of virtual ram available to run things, as well as the updates manager messing things up in the background by constantly seeing that youre not up to date and generally being a pain

    there are things you can do, but short answer is that they would all be temp fixes and you simply need a bigger hard drive for your OS

    if the emmc is hardwired in that adds complication to this as the damned thing can be hard to remove as default windows drive even after cloning.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,484 ✭✭✭Psygnosis


    That's a very weak processor. Would you consider using a Linux distro you could test out a distro from USB pen.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    that cpu is dire, no two ways about it.

    a low-level android phone is more powerful.

    not surprised that it's at such a high utilisation.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,948 ✭✭✭0gac3yjefb5sv7


    your 32gb emmc is very likely already mostly full, and certainly one or two windows updates will fill it

    this limits the amount of virtual ram available to run things, as well as the updates manager messing things up in the background by constantly seeing that youre not up to date and generally being a pain

    there are things you can do, but short answer is that they would all be temp fixes and you simply need a bigger hard drive for your OS

    if the emmc is hardwired in that adds complication to this as the damned thing can be hard to remove as default windows drive even after cloning.

    So I should just return it and get something faster? Ant recommendations. Need something that can browse fast and stream Netflix, Sports etc easily.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,648 ✭✭✭✭beauf


    That's the same spec as my 3yr old netbook Lenovo 100. To start run Windows 10 32bit not 64. Takes less space and less ram.

    Mine runs ok but it's only good for basic office and web stuff. Can play full hd video etc.

    Can you install a add or more ram? You might not be able. What's the name or model of the pc.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,948 ✭✭✭0gac3yjefb5sv7


    It's a Wintel Pro from Amazon. If I can't even browse fast then it's no use to me..


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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Pheonix10 wrote: »
    So I should just return it and get something faster? Ant recommendations. Need something that can browse fast and stream Netflix, Sports etc easily.

    yes, return it.

    buy one with a cpu like...

    a celeron n4100, n5000 or a pentium 4415u or a core i3 will do.

    avoid celeron 4200, despite number it's older and less powerful.

    if you buy a barebones one with just the cpu you can add ram and an ssd cheaper yourself.


    https://www.geekbuying.com/item/Beelink-Gemini-N41-Gemini-Lake-N4100-6GB-128GB-Windows-10-Mini-PC-412379.html

    even the cheaper option on that page is ok but better to have 6gb ram and 128gb ssd.

    for 212 euro it's not bad. I'd go for that one. the 6gb will give you more leeway for multitasking in windows or even just having a lot of browser tabs open and 128gb ssd gives you more room and a lot faster than emmc memory

    1 week delivery from any of the European warehouses


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    for streaming and etc the processor imo isnt the limiter

    i run my media pc setup off something quite similar (N3700) and theres no issues

    the lack of space available in the OS drive is the limiter based on my own very similar experience with the above


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,510 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    What did you buy if for? Whats the primary purpose?


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    for streaming and etc the processor imo isnt the limiter

    i run my media pc setup off something quite similar (N3700) and theres no issues

    the lack of space available in the OS drive is the limiter based on my own very similar experience with the above

    even that is over 50% more powerful than the atom.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,948 ✭✭✭0gac3yjefb5sv7


    Bought it on Amazon for basic browsing and Netflix etc but don't want to be waiting 10 seconds for a new tab.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    glasso wrote: »
    even that is over 50% more powerful than the atom.

    fair enough i didn't have ability off hand to do direct comparison

    OP you def need a bigger hard drive, minimum 50gb for OS imo

    as everyone else is noting, several grades higher of processor prob wise also


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Pheonix10 wrote: »
    Bought it on Amazon for basic browsing and Netflix etc but don't want to be waiting 10 seconds for a new tab.

    if you can stretch to the 212 euro that I linked on geekbuying that will do the job.

    the n4100 cpu is decent enough
    6gb ram for comfortable running
    128gb fast ssd to give you enough space
    hdmi 2 will allow 4k output


  • Registered Users Posts: 37,301 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    Pheonix10 wrote: »
    Windows 10 64-bit,DDR3L 2GB/32GB eMMC/4K/Built-in WiFi/BT 4.0
    2GBs of RAM is min spec for Windows 64bit.

    Also, there's been a few updates lately. It'll use up all your resources whilst it updates itself.


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,510 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    I'd be tempted to stick to a stick like Roku for Netflix and use the phone for browsing (can probably cast to the TV as well if need be)


  • Registered Users Posts: 36,167 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    Price of an Android box, running windows. Recipe for disaster.

    Double-Triple the budget or drop the "mini" idea.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 36,167 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    Oh and for extra fun it seems theres a rake of chinese spyware preinstalled. Wonderful.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    ED E wrote: »
    Oh and for extra fun it seems theres a rake of chinese spyware preinstalled. Wonderful.

    on what?


  • Registered Users Posts: 36,167 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    glasso wrote: »
    on what?

    The device the OP bought, going by what an amazon user found with MBAM.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    yeah that one for £90 that the OP got is a false economy with poverty specs that don't cut it for any use really.

    Beelink are a decent enough brand for stuff like this as far as it goes.


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,510 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Just double checked (price too cheap) and it doesn't have a valid W10 licence (you have to buy it) - so you could end with a dead box anyway


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,648 ✭✭✭✭beauf


    I've another machine with 4gb of and a n3550 not much difference between that and the atom when using them.

    If it's too slow as others have said send it back and get faster one with a mainstem CPU.

    I find them fine but I'd never use them as my main pc


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,571 ✭✭✭dubrov


    It's a low spec but should still run a browser easily.
    If you have only windows 10 and chrome installed, even 32gb would still have a fair bit of space remaining.

    Check how much space is left on the storage drive first.
    Failing that do a complete clean install of windows.

    If that fails, bring it back


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,648 ✭✭✭✭beauf


    Mines has about 16gb free with 32 bit Windows installed. 64bit takes up more space though. I must check the other one.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,930 ✭✭✭✭TerrorFirmer


    The processor is seriously low-end. Though it shouldn't be pegged at 100% usage either - possibly the device needs to be updated and downloading the updates is eating into the CPU.

    It should be grand for light browsing and video playback.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,948 ✭✭✭0gac3yjefb5sv7


    Anyone have any recommendations for Sky Go etc. Just want something fast for browsing and streaming. No gaming or work at all.


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