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The Aviva - people going in and out during games

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 226 ✭✭Jewelers


    Kevski wrote: »
    There’s no alcohol sponsorship but alcohol is served in grounds in France.

    it is alco free piss in stade has this changed ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    TCM wrote: »
    The reason why people leave their seats regularly during rugby games is simple. Rugby is a bandwagon sport with many "followers" who don't know or care about the game. Many of those who attend games have no knowledge of the game, of players or indeed the rules. It's simply an occasion. This phenomenon does not exist in GAA or soccer.


    Maybe in soccer but really you would want to hate someone to subject them to an Irish international


    In GAA my wife has come with me numerous times over the year to Croker for the occasion and the atmosphere. No idea about rules or anything but will go.



    This bandwagon thing is quite funny.....you don't think it happen in soccer? look at the Aviva now for a soccer game, place is dead half the time. See them win a few games or get to a competition and half the country are suddenly "the real fans"



    Same in GAA, my current county is not a big one in terms of GAA. Match on place is dead, you wouldnteven know a game on. They got to Croker a few years back, the county was dead for the day and everyone spent the day on beer before and after.....sound like a bandwagon to me?????


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,291 ✭✭✭lbc2019


    Jewelers wrote: »
    it is alco free piss in stade has this changed ?

    Yes, rule changed in Paris last year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,150 ✭✭✭mr_edge_to_you


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    Seriously Irish people do like to complain....

    If I do go to a game now I like to enjoy a beer or two with my mates. Are people saying now we are not welcome to drink a beer at the game? I do make sure when possible if booking tickets we get the seats on the end so as not to disturb people but really do we need a thread to moan about people enjoying a few beers at a game?

    You will get beer banned and then start a thread about the lack of beers at the game.

    The Aviva did offer a service to prebook beers to speed up service but not sure if people used it? so I dont know if available anymore.

    Non-drinking sections....your having a laugh, God you really would be drawing the short straw and getting stuck in that section. All it would be full of is people who asked there mate to buy a ticket and they stuck them into it.....

    Not looking for beer to be banned. I enjoy a pint as much as anyone else. Mind you, I refuse to queue for more than 5 minutes for a pint.

    I've no issue with people bringing drink into the stands I would just like to see some controls put in place to minimise disruption because I feel that it's just plain bad manners, it's disruptive and ruins the overall experience.

    There was people sitting in my row, and they were in and out 3 times in the 1st half. And then once early in the 2nd half. It's only 40mins a half. Saturday's game was phenomenal - why wouldn't any rugby fan be glued to their seat?

    I'm still struggling to understand why people €60+ for a ticket to spend a significant portion of the match queueing at the bar.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,728 ✭✭✭Former Former


    People need to grow up and join the real world where things have to be paid for.

    The money that IRFU make from beer and food concessions is a big part of its budget. You take that away and you have to either raise ticket prices or you cut spending. That's the bottom line.

    Or we could just tolerate this minor minor minor inconvenience and realise that games in the Aviva subsidise the other 90% of the season.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    I think if a bunch of people were having a few beers in a cinema and kept asking people to get up during the movie, people would rightly complain.

    So why shouldn't those of us who want to watch the match feel we can't complain? Are we not allowed be really interested in the match.


    You are trying to compare going to the cinema and a rugby match? :p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    There were really exciting moments in the all blacks match and same happened. Some people have
    * no sense of passion and excitement
    * no sense when others have a sense of passion and excitement

    The real rugby fans are too polite and we shouldn't put up with this


    The whole point of a game is the atmosphere. Different people from all walks of life watching the same game....


    Based on your requirements, you want 40k robots that react the way you want them to and if they dont you will complain


    Sound awful to me to be honest.....


    Not sure why you classify that as "real rugby fans", am I not a real rugby fan because I enjoy a beer at the game and I don't really mind people going for a beer and shock horror, using the toilet


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,967 ✭✭✭✭The Lost Sheep


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    Seriously Irish people do like to complain....

    If I do go to a game now I like to enjoy a beer or two with my mates. Are people saying now we are not welcome to drink a beer at the game? I do make sure when possible if booking tickets we get the seats on the end so as not to disturb people but really do we need a thread to moan about people enjoying a few beers at a game?

    You will get beer banned and then start a thread about the lack of beers at the game.

    The Aviva did offer a service to prebook beers to speed up service but not sure if people used it? so I dont know if available anymore.

    Non-drinking sections....your having a laugh, God you really would be drawing the short straw and getting stuck in that section. All it would be full of is people who asked there mate to buy a ticket and they stuck them into it.....
    Feck all use the app to pre book beers even though you can skip queues. Its called rapid queue and few use it...
    Not looking for beer to be banned. I enjoy a pint as much as anyone else. Mind you, I refuse to queue for more than 5 minutes for a pint.

    I've no issue with people bringing drink into the stands I would just like to see some controls put in place to minimise disruption because I feel that it's just plain bad manners, it's disruptive and ruins the overall experience.

    There was people sitting in my row, and they were in and out 3 times in the 1st half. And then once early in the 2nd half. It's only 40mins a half. Saturday's game was phenomenal - why wouldn't any rugby fan be glued to their seat?

    I'm still struggling to understand why people €60+ for a ticket to spend a significant portion of the match queueing at the bar.
    People go to games for many reasons. Often they can be given tickets and its there for social occasion/event as much as anything else.
    I think if a bunch of people were having a few beers in a cinema and kept asking people to get up during the movie, people would rightly complain.

    So why shouldn't those of us who want to watch the match feel we can't complain? Are we not allowed be really interested in the match.
    You cant at all compare going to a cinema to a rugby game.
    TCM wrote: »
    It most certainly does not. I'm a keen sports fan and attend rugby and soccer internationals + many games in croke park. From my long experience this behaviour is far more prevalent in rugby than soccer & simply does not happen at gaa games.
    It very much happens at soccer games as for example last tuesday in the aviva when ireland got their goal there were loads and loads of people who only saw the goal on the tv screens on concourse as they were at the bars.
    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    Maybe in soccer but really you would want to hate someone to subject them to an Irish international

    In GAA my wife has come with me numerous times over the year to Croker for the occasion and the atmosphere. No idea about rules or anything but will go.

    This bandwagon thing is quite funny.....you don't think it happen in soccer? look at the Aviva now for a soccer game, place is dead half the time. See them win a few games or get to a competition and half the country are suddenly "the real fans"

    Same in GAA, my current county is not a big one in terms of GAA. Match on place is dead, you wouldnteven know a game on. They got to Croker a few years back, the county was dead for the day and everyone spent the day on beer before and after.....sound like a bandwagon to me?????
    The word bandwagon should stop being used. Everyones a fan. Doesnt matter what extent they are.
    There were really exciting moments in the all blacks match and same happened. Some people have
    * no sense of passion and excitement
    * no sense when others have a sense of passion and excitement

    The real rugby fans are too polite and we shouldn't put up with this
    How the feck do you determine a persons sense of passion/excitement then Tim?
    And tim do you want robots who all act/watch games in the exact same fashion then?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,476 ✭✭✭Acosta


    I wish people would just call it Lansdowne Road.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    Is there anything in life you'd like to see, movie in a cinema, kids in school show where if you were asked approx every 5 mins to stand up you'd find annoying?

    I don't know.

    But just try to understand some of us like to get every moment of that game. Watching players take up spaces, reactions to big hits, fielding of the balls - there's a countless amount of things that real fans just love every second of.

    Maybe there's something out there you feel like. Maybe it's a porno? I don't know. There must be something you are truely passionate about? Surely?


    Sorry I don't understand why you refer to yourself as a "real fan". In your eyes you are....

    If you really can't enjoy the company of other people at a large social occasion like a rugby match I would suggest watching it at home.

    Normally when I go to the game I record it at home, no matter who moves in the stadium you will not be able to watch to the detail you describe. That the point of the live match. If you want to analyze the cr*p out of it then record it. Then enjoy the actually game in the stadium, the buzz, the atmosphere etc

    Any of the games I go to, I love the banter with fans around me, that is part of the live event....even better when you have rival fans mixed in, one of th ebest games was in 2011 at the Heneiken cup final, we had a mixture of English/French/Welsh etc all sitting around us and the banter was unreal....that's why people attend rugby match's.....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,891 ✭✭✭prinzeugen


    Really good idea. Who do we contact about this? I am sure if enough supporters do i, it might happen?

    What about the Leinster supporters club? Actually, since this topic has come up several times is there anyone from the Leinster Supporters club who could comment on this?

    It wont happen in the Aviva. Impossible to police unless you had entire levels or stands drink free (as happens in the North stand on a regular basis for security reasons).

    You could not have one block drink free and the rest not. For example if you wanted block 528 to be drink free, all the blocks from 524-529 would have to be drink free also.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    prinzeugen wrote: »
    It wont happen in the Aviva. Impossible to police unless you had entire levels or stands drink free (as happens in the North stand on a regular basis for security reasons).

    You could not have one block drink free and the rest not. For example if you wanted block 528 to be drink free, all the blocks from 524-529 would have to be drink free also.


    Why would they want to?

    Everyone complains they don't have a choice anymore, Nanny State. Some people just want more and more restrictions put onto people. Why? well because they just love to complain. As soon as they would close down the alcohol you would have the same supporter complaining because kids are now in his section.......then something else.....they will never be happy

    Really if a person is not capable of sitting at a match with the company of others and enjoy it, then don't go to the match in first place. Don't waste the ticket, let someone who will enjoy it go. Let a real fan :p go


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,786 ✭✭✭Brock Turnpike


    testtech05 wrote: »
    While I agree with you I don't think it will change any time soon. The Aviva is taking in too much money from it to stop it.

    On the point of why people do it, I think more and more people are just going to rugby for the event/to say they were there/posts on Instagram etc.

    You see loads of people who are at the games who don't even watch half of it messing with their phones etc when not going to the bar.

    Best to just try and ignore it and enjoy the game yourself or at least that's what I do. Each to their own and all that....

    First reply in the thread has it nailed. Close the thread. On we move.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,891 ✭✭✭prinzeugen


    The nanny state is creeping in down there.. No more full fat coke for "health reasons"!

    You have to wash down your 1000 calorie burger with the diet or sugar free version now.

    Will be taking my own bottles of the full fat stuff from now on!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    There's a huge about of muppet fans at the matches now and the rest of us just have to put up with it.

    Why don't we get rid of silence for the kicker and standing for the anthems?
    Sure we don't make money out of respect anymore so let's ditch all forms of it.

    The target market is someone with an interest in beers and minor interest in rugby because they will spend more money.

    Very sad, because it's all true.


    Not happy with calling yourself a "real fan" you are now trying to insult all other fans.....


    Fan's have always had a beer, going back years, are they not real fans either??


    As a "real fan" did you ever go to the old Lansdowne and watch a game? or even the RDS now in the terrace?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,891 ✭✭✭prinzeugen



    Why don't we get rid of silence for the kicker .

    That is one of the most stupid things that takes place. I had to warn god knows how many people about the whole "sssshhh" thing. They are kicking at the other end of the ground/ or you are inside. They can not hear anyone talking so there is no need for perfect silence and no need for you to tell others to keep quiet.

    I was dealing with a lost child and one guy told me to "Shut the feck up and take your meeting elsewhere" ! He was warned that if he spoke to me like that again he would be fecked out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,768 ✭✭✭✭Weepsie


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    Really if a person is not capable of sitting at a match and enjoy it, then don't go to the match in first place. Don't waste the ticket, let someone who will enjoy it go. Let a real fan :p go

    Fyp. It is a right pita if you're sitting beside a row of people who are in and out constantly making it nigh on impossible to watch the match.

    Definitely something to be said for a section where the bar closes during the match. Doesn't have to be huge or anything, but there's a way to please most fans attending by doing something like that


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 144 ✭✭Marcus Rashford


    You’re ignoring the fact that there are a lot of people entertaining clients at the games. Those people have to keep going out for drinks for everyone.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    I suppose there's two real fans:
    1. "really" want to watch match fan

    and

    2. "really" want to have a beer and don't mind missing 10% of the match (and making other miss around that) fan.




    As a "real fan" number 1, yes and yes.

    I don’t understand how you miss 10%?

    So which terrace in RDS you use?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,967 ✭✭✭✭The Lost Sheep


    That's a bit patronising. Real fans won't want to go and annoying real fans is hardly a way to build a sport.

    Create a drink free part of the ground, under family only banner.
    Tim you are the one being patronising with your real fan name calling. Everyone is a fan. Nobody is more entitled to be in ground than anyone else.
    So stop saying you are more of a fan because of anything else. Compass group manage the bars and food units in the stadium and they wont do it because there's enough queues etc at bars in place and the demand isnt there for such a stand.
    Is there anything in life you'd like to see, movie in a cinema, kids in school show where if you were asked approx every 5 mins to stand up you'd find annoying?

    I don't know.

    But just try to understand some of us like to get every moment of that game. Watching players take up spaces, reactions to big hits, fielding of the balls - there's a countless amount of things that real fans just love every second of.

    Maybe there's something out there you feel like. Maybe it's a porno? I don't know. There must be something you are truely passionate about? Surely?
    Give over. If you want to watch every moment of the game. Then watch on tv as you just cant get that watching live in the ground.
    There's a huge about of muppet fans at the matches now and the rest of us just have to put up with it.

    Why don't we get rid of silence for the kicker and standing for the anthems?
    Sure we don't make money out of respect anymore so let's ditch all forms of it.

    The target market is someone with an interest in beers and minor interest in rugby because they will spend more money.

    Very sad, because it's all true.
    And there's plenty of muppets who dont drink.
    Silence for kicks and standing for anthems have nothing to do with this debate. The target audience is people who attend. IRFU get income but its primarily the catering companies who really make the earners from the bars and no way will they change no matter who complains as long as IRFU are happy and why wouldnt they be with current set up.
    prinzeugen wrote: »
    That is one of the most stupid things that takes place. I had to warn god knows how many people about the whole "sssshhh" thing. They are kicking at the other end of the ground/ or you are inside. They can not hear anyone talking so there is no need for perfect silence and no need for you to tell others to keep quiet.

    I was dealing with a lost child and one guy told me to "Shut the feck up and take your meeting elsewhere" ! He was warned that if he spoke to me like that again he would be fecked out.
    Keeping quiet is a fine tradition and nothing wrong with maintaining it even if down far end of the ground.
    Weepsie wrote: »
    Fyp. It is a right pita if you're sitting beside a row of people who are in and out constantly making it nigh on impossible to watch the match.

    Definitely something to be said for a section where the bar closes during the match. Doesn't have to be huge or anything, but there's a way to please most fans attending by doing something like that
    Wont happen and would still see lots of people moving in/out of their seats during the game


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,208 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    This happens at all events nowadays, be they rugby games, soccer matches, concerts etc.

    Irish people are terrible event junkies. They simply want to be seen at the latest big event. Not many of them will be seen when 'their team' isn't performing well on a wet and cold game at their local ground.

    If you can't watch a sports game for 2hrs without needing a drink, you need to call AA.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,891 ✭✭✭prinzeugen


    Weepsie wrote: »
    Definitely something to be said for a section where the bar closes during the match. Doesn't have to be huge or anything, but there's a way to please most fans attending by doing something like that

    As I posted earlier, it would be impossible to enforce in the Aviva unless it was an entire level.

    The ones that can't will be trying to sneak into other levels or sections for a pint which would cause crowd control issues. It would need the same sort of segregation that you see between home and away fans at some soccer matches.


  • Registered Users Posts: 444 ✭✭RCK1


    There isnt a chance you could close the bars before hand for any game. People would simply stay outside and drink elsewhere and come in late and that causes its own issues.
    And leaving bars closed till halftime would just make half time even worse. You had people complaining about the pints they got yesterday(same as any very busy match day) complaining about the pre pours... ridiculous to expect anything less when crowds are that big

    Not allowed. Risk. There was people selling bottles of beer not at the bars but all over the concourse but the majority dont go to them and are looking for pints

    They do it in most other major stadiums... I was Soilder Feild for a U2 gig and the Olympic stadium s couple of weeks ago for the 6 nation. No problems at either. The beer on tap and service is shocking in the Aviva and a lot do go for the bottles because. At the French game in was one of the first in the stadium and there was fully poured Guinness lying around idle already black. I was at the Leinster blue room and my dad ordered a calbusg. It took 5 different bar man and two different bars to try and do it. It ended up taking so long that he switched to a Guinness. The staff are also very slow. Don't get me started on the food in the stadium. Shocking for a morden stadium that s not even 10 years old.


  • Registered Users Posts: 444 ✭✭RCK1


    For those that want a social occasion and day out go talk nonsense at one of the trendy bars on Dawson street and let the real fans get on with watching tue game. Its very hard to get tickets. Yes there is a difference those who are actually want to watch the game not turn up late, go in and out 5/10 times,look at there phone then leave early if the results a given.


  • Registered Users Posts: 444 ✭✭RCK1


    NIMAN wrote: »
    This happens at all events nowadays, be they rugby games, soccer matches, concerts etc.

    Irish people are terrible event junkies. They simply want to be seen at the latest big event. Not many of them will be seen when 'their team' isn't performing well on a wet and cold game at their local ground.

    If you can't watch a sports game for 2hrs without needing a drink, you need to call AA.

    That s why the local clubs and seasons ticket holders who turn up on a wet Janurary evening need high preference on tickets not corporates. It's not even 2hrs but 40 mintues until half time.


  • Registered Users Posts: 444 ✭✭RCK1


    Acosta wrote: »
    I wish people would just call it Lansdowne Road.

    Here here


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,967 ✭✭✭✭The Lost Sheep


    RCK1 wrote: »
    They do it in most other major stadiums... I was Soilder Feild for a U2 gig and the Olympic stadium s couple of weeks ago for the 6 nation. No problems at either. The beer on tap and service is shocking in the Aviva and a lot do go for the bottles because. At the French game in was one of the first in the stadium and there was fully poured Guinness lying around idle already black. I was at the Leinster blue room and my dad ordered a calbusg. It took 5 different bar man and two different bars to try and do it. It ended up taking so long that he switched to a Guinness. The staff are also very slow. Don't get me started on the food in the stadium. Shocking for a morden stadium that s not even 10 years old.
    Lots dont go to bottles in fact. Overwhelming majority go to bars which dont sell bottles its the hawkers who walk around concourse/have big bags with bottles in them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,967 ✭✭✭✭The Lost Sheep


    RCK1 wrote: »
    For those that want a social occasion and day out go talk nonsense at one of the trendy bars on Dawson street and let the real fans get on with watching tue game. Its very hard to get tickets. Yes there is a difference those who are actually want to watch the game not turn up late, go in and out 5/10 times,look at there phone then leave early if the results a given.
    I went to NZ game. had 2 free tickets... and was regularly going to bar with my mate but avidly watching the game. we were in front row pitchside and it was as much social occasion as anything else and we're heavily involved in sport playing AIL/reffing and go regularly to provincial games as well...
    everyone cant/wont just go sit in their seats and not move or rarely get out of their seats during an entire half and expecting most people to do so is ridiculous.
    RCK1 wrote: »
    That s why the local clubs and seasons ticket holders who turn up on a wet Janurary evening need high preference on tickets not corporates. It's not even 2hrs but 40 mintues until half time.
    The clubs and season ticket holders get significant percentage of tickets already and theres plenty who have those tickets and are avid club followers who're the same as corporates in terms of going to the bars...


  • Registered Users Posts: 444 ✭✭RCK1


    Lots dont go to bottles in fact. Overwhelming majority go to bars which dont sell bottles its the hawkers who walk around concourse/have big bags with bottles in them.

    Do you do a count ? I go to a lot of games and often those around us don't bother with the pints as they are that shocking. One big company does the hospitality so is too big to care which is why the stadium is so poor with queres,service and food/drinks


  • Registered Users Posts: 444 ✭✭RCK1


    Lots dont go to bottles in fact. Overwhelming majority go to bars which dont sell bottles its the hawkers who walk around concourse/have big bags with bottles in them.

    Also the food stalls all do bottles and the bars while not obvious have bottles if you look closely in the fridges to the sides


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,390 ✭✭✭Bowlardo


    Was my first Leinster match ever. I’d be a very casual rugby fan.
    It was a novelty to be able to drink inside the stadium so I did avail of about 3 pints but It was really weird the amount of people piling out during the game.
    It is only 40 minutes and is an unreal game to see live.
    I think you should not be let in to the seating area with pint but for the most part people only headed out when there was a bit of gap in play.
    Loved the Leinster lion mascot giving it loads and the older Leinster woman behind me giving it socks and putting some manners on the ulster fans.
    Ulster fan claiming it was an EU conspiracy they didn’t get the try was pretty funny.
    I think the phone thing is going to stay unfortunately but that is just an age/manners thing and i’m Afraid It is here to stay.
    For a European quarter final the pints inside the watching area should be banned


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,967 ✭✭✭✭The Lost Sheep


    RCK1 wrote: »
    Do you do a count ? I go to a lot of games and often those around us don't bother with the pints as they are that shocking. One big company does the hospitality so is too big to care which is why the stadium is so poor with queres,service and food/drinks
    You can see it in amount they sell/queues for them when its busy. Vast vast majority dont buy bottles.
    The hospitality company would care if it was such an issue that it was affecting their profits/customer service/reception from customers was that poor.
    And anyway its not a care to them


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,967 ✭✭✭✭The Lost Sheep


    RCK1 wrote: »
    Also the food stalls all do bottles and the bars while not obvious have bottles if you look closely in the fridges to the sides
    food units do but bars dont sell bottles of beer. Its pints, premixed cans of spirits or softdrinks.
    Bowlardo wrote: »
    Was my first Leinster match ever. I’d be a very casual rugby fan.
    It was a novelty to be able to drink inside the stadium so I did avail of about 3 pints but It was really weird the amount of people piling out during the game.
    It is only 40 minutes and is an unreal game to see live.
    I think you should not be let in to the seating area with pint but for the most part people only headed out when there was a bit of gap in play.
    Loved the Leinster lion mascot giving it loads and the older Leinster woman behind me giving it socks and putting some manners on the ulster fans.
    Ulster fan claiming it was an EU conspiracy they didn’t get the try was pretty funny.
    I think the phone thing is going to stay unfortunately but that is just an age/manners thing and i’m Afraid It is here to stay.
    For a European quarter final the pints inside the watching area should be banned
    wont change unless stadium management/security/stewards etc all find it necessary to stop people drinking at their seats. Risk isnt an issue at rugby games so no need to change.


  • Registered Users Posts: 444 ✭✭RCK1


    prinzeugen wrote: »
    That is one of the most stupid things that takes place. I had to warn god knows how many people about the whole "sssshhh" thing. They are kicking at the other end of the ground/ or you are inside. They can not hear anyone talking so there is no need for perfect silence and no need for you to tell others to keep quiet.

    I was dealing with a lost child and one guy told me to "Shut the feck up and take your meeting elsewhere" ! He was warned that if he spoke to me like that again he would be fecked out.

    Yes a lost child etc.. is of course an expectation to the rule but mostly its people talking ****e that won't shut up. If you don't like it don't bother attending. It's called respect and tradition. Visiting media and players often remark on how good the stadium is for this. Do you go to a golf tennis event mass or whatever and expect to act the way you feel?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,891 ✭✭✭prinzeugen


    RCK1 wrote: »
    Do you do a count ? I go to a lot of games and often those around us don't bother with the pints as they are that shocking. One big company does the hospitality so is too big to care which is why the stadium is so poor with queres,service and food/drinks

    The issue might be the high turnover of staff on the bars etc. I have never been there as a punter only as staff so can't comment on the pints, but the service is slow if you just want a coke/tea etc. If there is an issue with a queue at one location then control will intervene however.

    Remember, these folks are trying to pull more pints in 3 hours than some pubs pull in a month.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,891 ✭✭✭prinzeugen


    RCK1 wrote: »
    Yes a lost child etc.. is of course an expectation to the rule but mostly its people talking ****e that won't shut up. If you don't like it don't bother attending. ?

    Eh... I work there. I attend because its my job! And if I will talk regardless of what is going on in the game in order to get the job done.

    There is this myth that rugby fans are the best. Not true. I would rather deal with 50,000 drunk football fans than 30,000 sober rugby fans.

    There is a real sense of entitlement with a minority of rugby fans that causes problems.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 828 ✭✭✭tototoe


    prinzeugen wrote: »

    There is a real sense of entitlement with a minority of rugby fans that causes problems.

    It's coming across strongly in this thread TBF.

    Define a "real fan", and how a real fan should behave. It's nonsense and arrogance of the highest order. There wouldnt be any atmosphere at most games in the Aviva without drinkers. Recent early games there show that.

    People don't have to play the game or ref it, or sit motionless for 40 minutes so as not to interrupt someones view of the game to be a real fan.

    Such horse manure.


  • Subscribers Posts: 41,942 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    Any game kicking off at 5:45 on a Saturday evening is going to attract a lot of drinkers and "event junkies".

    If you don't like it, purchase premium tickets where the drinkers stay inside the glass. There was a shocking amount of premium ticket seats not occupied for the whole game last Saturday


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 144 ✭✭Marcus Rashford


    The bigger issue is the total incompetence of the staff, the poor organisation of the bars generally, and idiotic customer behaviour.

    Beer only bars and fellas wandering around with plastic bottles to sell would help.

    Don’t laugh, but some form of concierge service would work very well. I know lots of people who’d pay for that, removing hundred if not thousands of drinks from system.

    The customer behaviour is mad though...”do you have Hendricks?”, “What riojas do you have?” or the “ah, Billy (at the top of the queue), grab me 5 Guinness while you’re there”


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,730 ✭✭✭✭Squidgy Black


    The customer behaviour is mad though...”do you have Hendricks?”, “What riojas do you have?” or the “ah, Billy (at the top of the queue), grab me 5 Guinness while you’re there”

    Worked in a bar at the Aviva and never once had any interactions like the above, so I don't know where you've dreamed that one up from, and it's 4 drinks per customer so that doesn't happen either.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 144 ✭✭Marcus Rashford


    The customer behaviour is mad though...”do you have Hendricks?”, “What riojas do you have?” or the “ah, Billy (at the top of the queue), grab me 5 Guinness while you’re there”

    Worked in a bar at the Aviva and never once had any interactions like the above, so I don't know where you've dreamed that one up from, and it's 4 drinks per customer so that doesn't happen either.

    You have no idea what you’re talking about. I go to every game and there is no such restriction. I was standing behind a clown at the England game who asked “do you have Fever Tree?”.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,730 ✭✭✭✭Squidgy Black


    You have no idea what you’re talking about. I go to every game and there is no such restriction. I was standing behind a clown at the England game who asked “do you have Fever Tree?”.

    Sure you did.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,291 ✭✭✭lbc2019


    I hate people constantly getting up and down, seems to be worse in the Aviva than most others Ive been to- and the service is awful to boot! Slow and clueless anytime ive bought something


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 144 ✭✭Marcus Rashford


    You have no idea what you’re talking about. I go to every game and there is no such restriction. I was standing behind a clown at the England game who asked “do you have Fever Tree?”.

    Sure you did.

    You worked in a bar at the Aviva and you never once heard someone act the goat in terms of trying to order ridiculous stuff or someone ordering five or more drinks.

    Well then it could never have happened.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,360 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    Really good idea. Who do we contact about this? I am sure if enough supporters do i, it might happen?

    What about the Leinster supporters club? Actually, since this topic has come up several times is there anyone from the Leinster Supporters club who could comment on this?

    The OLSC sell branded cup holders. :)

    I used to use them, when I was drinking at games. Handy enough really. They held 4 pints. So I got 4 before the game started, my brother got 4 during half time.

    We wanted to drink and watch the game. We wouldn't stop watching the game, just to get a drink. I think it's a bit stupid and to be honest, whoever's getting up and going out, it's their loss really. Paying 30 - 80 euro to spend half the time queuing up. That's just nuts.
    The bigger issue is the total incompetence of the staff, the poor organisation of the bars generally, and idiotic customer behaviour.

    Don't blame the staff if they weren't properly trained. My cousin worked the bar in the aviva a couple of times and quit it, because he had no idea what was going on there. People were asking for stuff, he didn't know whether or not it was done.


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  • Administrators Posts: 54,184 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    I've been at pretty much every Ireland home international for the past ~5 years or so, so have a fairly decent grasp on what the match day experience is like. This issue of people going for drinks is blown out of all proportion on here.

    And people who think they're better fans because they don't drink at the games need to get over themselves.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    I find people arriving late into their seats to be more of an issue than leaving their seats during the game. Even on Saturday, the stadium was maybe half full ten minutes before kickoff.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 181 ✭✭odyboody


    The best,worst, of this was soon after sword security took over at the RDS. Some plank of a supervisor took the opportunity of the silence for a penalty to shout instructions to one of the stewards. Thought he was going to be lynched.


  • Registered Users Posts: 444 ✭✭RCK1


    odyboody wrote: »
    The best,worst, of this was soon after sword security took over at the RDS. Some plank of a supervisor took the opportunity of the silence for a penalty to shout instructions to one of the stewards. Thought he was going to be lynched.

    And rightly so!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 444 ✭✭RCK1


    I find people arriving late into their seats to be more of an issue than leaving their seats during the game. Even on Saturday, the stadium was maybe half full ten minutes before kickoff.

    The same people who arrive late also seem to be the worst offenders for going in and out then leaving the game early.

    No body is suggestion everyone has to sit riged but it's taking the piss going in and out more then twice in a game. The max you have to sit for is 40 mintues hardly the end of the world without a pint.

    You dont go to a classical concert cinema religious service etc... scream and act annoying then tell the people there to stay at home. The for the occasion people should just go to a trendy posh bar on Dawson street and chat there. Let the proper fans enjoy the game. It's hard enough already to get tickets without hanger ons


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