The Aviva - people going in and out during games

Shefwedfan

Marcus Rashford wrote: »

You worked in a bar at the Aviva and you never once heard someone act the goat in terms of trying to order ridiculous stuff or someone ordering five or more drinks.

Well then it could never have happened.

The customer behaviour is mad though...”do you have Hendricks?”, “What riojas do you have?” or the “ah, Billy (at the top of the queue), grab me 5 Guinness while you’re there”


So few thing
It's a max of 4 drinks per customer. So no that doesn't happen
The drinks are clearly advertised on what is available
The menu has not changed for as long as I have gone to Aviva, and I went to the first Leinster v Munster match when it reopened


Have you ever set foot inside the Aviva? doesn't sound like it to me

The Lost Sheep

Marcus Rashford wrote: »

The bigger issue is the total incompetence of the staff, the poor organisation of the bars generally, and idiotic customer behaviour.

Beer only bars and fellas wandering around with plastic bottles to sell would help.

Don’t laugh, but some form of concierge service would work very well. I know lots of people who’d pay for that, removing hundred if not thousands of drinks from system.

The customer behaviour is mad though...”do you have Hendricks?”, “What riojas do you have?” or the “ah, Billy (at the top of the queue), grab me 5 Guinness while you’re there”

Total incompetence/poor organisation? Not at all.
There is people selling bottles around the ground. They generally are selling bottles of carlsberg
Concierge system? Seriously?

Squidgy Black wrote: »

Worked in a bar at the Aviva and never once had any interactions like the above, so I don't know where you've dreamed that one up from, and it's 4 drinks per customer so that doesn't happen either.

4 drinks per customer yes but sometimes people will get more than 4...

RCK1 wrote: »

The same people who arrive late also seem to be the worst offenders for going in and out then leaving the game early.

No body is suggestion everyone has to sit riged but it's taking the piss going in and out more then twice in a game. The max you have to sit for is 40 mintues hardly the end of the world without a pint.

You dont go to a classical concert cinema religious service etc... scream and act annoying then tell the people there to stay at home. The for the occasion people should just go to a trendy posh bar on Dawson street and chat there. Let the proper fans enjoy the game. It's hard enough already to get tickets without hanger ons

Theyre not. As many who go in out through game will be there early. Its a bit much to be saying how much people go in/out of their seats.

Shefwedfan wrote: »

The customer behaviour is mad though...”do you have Hendricks?”, “What riojas do you have?” or the “ah, Billy (at the top of the queue), grab me 5 Guinness while you’re there”


So few thing
It's a max of 4 drinks per customer. So no that doesn't happen
The drinks are clearly advertised on what is available
The menu has not changed for as long as I have gone to Aviva, and I went to the first Leinster v Munster match when it reopened

Have you ever set foot inside the Aviva? doesn't sound like it to me

On 4 drinks per customer. That isnt strictly kept to..
But yeah clear and obvious whats on sale each game and hasnt changed in long while bar few small changes

Hurrache

Comes up so often. If people want to leave their seats, so be it. Your view is obscured for a couple of seconds, if even. Get on with your own life and don't be worrying about what others do with theirs.

All this "nowadays" nonsense. You'd have to wonder how long people saying this have been going to games and events, because it's straight up bull****. It's not a new or recent phenomena. It's snobbery, and idiotic. You need to stay at home and watch on TV instead of mixing with people.

Shefwedfan

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

On 4 drinks per customer. That isnt strictly kept to..
But yeah clear and obvious whats on sale each game and hasnt changed in long while bar few small changes

Ok you might get 4 pints and a wine which sits neatly in between the pints if person has a glass but you hardly have a single person walking up and ordering 4 pints and then another 5 guiness as the poster suggested......

Marcus Rashford

Firstly, the drinks change based on the event (e.g. only Carlsberg etc at Ireland games).

Secondly, I have NEVER seen or heard of a four drink rule and I’m a 10 year ticket holder who goes to every single rugby match, International or Heineken Cup.

PhilOssophy

Dunno why anybody would pay 6 euro for slop pints in the Aviva, I'd want to be dying of thirst to even bother being shafted like that.
I dunno what the answer is though, maybe like the cricket alcohol free sections? Works well at places like Lords, Old Trafford, etc.

awec

The solution is for people who need to leave their seat for whatever reason, be it to take a piss, or get a drink, to do it during an appropriate time in play.

In my experience, most people who get up do so during times when you're not missing much of anything. Rugby is very stop-start, there are lots of opportunities to leave.

As I said, this "issue" is blown out of all proportion.

Shefwedfan

Marcus Rashford wrote: »

Firstly, the drinks change based on the event (e.g. only Carlsberg etc at Ireland games).

Secondly, I have NEVER seen or heard of a four drink rule and I’m a 10 year ticket holder who goes to every single rugby match, International or Heineken Cup.

The 10 year ticket is only for internationals for a start.



I have no idea how you haven't heard of the 4 drink rule.I am fiarly sure it is plastered all over the stadium and also the staff tell you as well.



Maybe you went to the wrong stadium?

Shefwedfan

awec wrote: »

The solution is for people who need to leave their seat for whatever reason, be it to take a piss, or get a drink, to do it during an appropriate time in play.

In my experience, most people who get up do so during times when you're not missing much of anything. Rugby is very stop-start, there are lots of opportunities to leave.

As I said, this "issue" is blown out of all proportion.

It is fairly easy as you say to get out of seat and over in a break in play.


To be honest I go to a lot of games. Not as many as some people on here, the "real fans" but the majority. Life gets in way sometime.


I have yet to have an issue with anyone at the game going for a beer or for food or whatever. I suppose I just love the atmosphere, the buzz and the crack of a live game.

I will of course always record and watch back later on....maybe I might crack open a beer then as well :P

The Lost Sheep

Marcus Rashford wrote: »

Firstly, the drinks change based on the event (e.g. only Carlsberg etc at Ireland games).

Secondly, I have NEVER seen or heard of a four drink rule and I’m a 10 year ticket holder who goes to every single rugby match, International or Heineken Cup.

Its never completely enforced but there is a limit per customer per transaction.

PhilOssophy wrote: »

Dunno why anybody would pay 6 euro for slop pints in the Aviva, I'd want to be dying of thirst to even bother being shafted like that.
I dunno what the answer is though, maybe like the cricket alcohol free sections? Works well at places like Lords, Old Trafford, etc.

If you would like a drink and there's no alternative then what else do you do?
Make up of cricket grounds very different to rugby stadiums though is it not?

errlloyd

Shefwedfan wrote: »

The 10 year ticket is only for internationals for a start.



I have no idea how you haven't heard of the 4 drink rule.I am fiarly sure it is plastered all over the stadium and also the staff tell you as well.

Tbh I hadnt a clue of the four drink limit. It wasn't enforced on me on Saturday when I got 12.

The Lost Sheep

errlloyd wrote: »

Tbh I hadnt a clue of the four drink limit. It wasn't enforced on me on Saturday when I got 12.

All depends on situation... and you will regularly see orders of 8/12/16 drinks at games

Dravokivich

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

Concierge system? Seriously?

They released an App recently, where you can order from your seat, and collect at the bar. One of the lads used it in December and found so many other people thought it'd be a great way to get a drink quickly, that he was longer getting back, than if he had used the bar itself. :pac:

The Lost Sheep

Dravokivich wrote: »

They released an App recently, where you can order from your seat, and collect at the bar. One of the lads used it in December and found so many other people thought it'd be a great way to get a drink quickly, that he was longer getting back, than if he had used the bar itself. :pac:

Yeah i know all about app. Concierge is what threw me..
And rapidQ is in place for quite a while, not that recent an addition

awec

Dravokivich wrote: »

They released an App recently, where you can order from your seat, and collect at the bar. One of the lads used it in December and found so many other people thought it'd be a great way to get a drink quickly, that he was longer getting back, than if he had used the bar itself. :pac:

RapidQ. They've had it for years, I always use it since you're usually served straight away with no queue.

Some day they'll figure out how to get beer to seats and pish away from seats without the person having to move. Until that day arrives (and what a day it will be), it's about as good as it's going to get.

Shefwedfan

awec wrote: »

RapidQ. They've had it for years, I always use it since you're usually served straight away with no queue.

Some day they'll figure out how to get beer to seats and pish away from seats without the person having to move. Until that day arrives (and what a day it will be), it's about as good as it's going to get.

Just buy a bottle of beer, once empty the bottle will provide a handy wee wee holder....

Might be a small problem with people whipping out their XXXXX all over the stadium

Marcus Rashford

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Marcus Rashford wrote: »

Firstly, the drinks change based on the event (e.g. only Carlsberg etc at Ireland games).

Secondly, I have NEVER seen or heard of a four drink rule and I’m a 10 year ticket holder who goes to every single rugby match, International or Heineken Cup.

The 10 year ticket is only for internationals for a start.



I have no idea how you haven't heard of the 4 drink rule.I am fiarly sure it is plastered all over the stadium and also the staff tell you as well.



Maybe you went to the wrong stadium?

You seem to just want to have an argument.

Where did I say that 10 year tickets cover anything other than Internationals?

It now seems that other people know nothing of this “four drink rule” you seem to think is imposed.

Perhaps you couldn’t serve more than four drinks at a time so it was a special “Shefwedfan Rule” imposed by management?

The Lost Sheep

Marcus Rashford wrote: »

You seem to just want to have an argument.

Where did I say that 10 year tickets cover anything other than Internationals?

It now seems that other people know nothing of this “four drink rule” you seem to think is imposed.

Perhaps you couldn’t serve more than four drinks at a time so it was a special “Shefwedfan Rule” imposed by management?

There is a four drink rule in place and yes it is ignored/not implemented a bit but it is still there...
depends on customer/situation etc

sydthebeat

for everyone giving out about the bar

i stood up on the half time whistle, in section 509.
got to the toilet no problem as the toilet door is right beside the section entrance.
waited no longer than 2 minutes for a pee.
got 2 bottles of beer from a hawker (and she was gorgeous !) with absolutely no queue

and was back sitting down on my seat within 5 minutes of standing up.

Shefwedfan

Marcus Rashford wrote: »

You seem to just want to have an argument.

Where did I say that 10 year tickets cover anything other than Internationals?

It now seems that other people know nothing of this “four drink rule” you seem to think is imposed.

Perhaps you couldn’t serve more than four drinks at a time so it was a special “Shefwedfan Rule” imposed by management?

So special rules. Just the standard ones they have had since the day the stadium opened.

Shefwedfan

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

All depends on situation... and you will regularly see orders of 8/12/16 drinks at games

May I asked how 1 person gets 8/12/16 drinks from the bar back to the other people?

Even with 4 in those cardboard holders you lose a certain amount of it.

Yeah_Right

Shefwedfan wrote: »

The 10 year ticket is only for internationals for a start.



I have no idea how you haven't heard of the 4 drink rule.I am fiarly sure it is plastered all over the stadium and also the staff tell you as well.



Maybe you went to the wrong stadium?

Look at their username. I am guessing they don't know the difference between a scrum and a lineout, let alone a ruck and a maul.

It cracks me up how often this topic comes up. If you want a clear unobstructed view of the match, watch it in your living room or pay for a private box.

troyzer

Yeah_Right wrote: »

Look at their username. I am guessing they don't know the difference between a scrum and a lineout, let alone a ruck and a maul.

It cracks me up how often this topic comes up. If you want a clear unobstructed view of the match, watch it in your living room or pay for a private box.

The Lost Sheep

Shefwedfan wrote: »

May I asked how 1 person gets 8/12/16 drinks from the bar back to the other people?

Even with 4 in those cardboard holders you lose a certain amount of it.

no idea but im seen people take 8 and 12 in the cardboard holders on their own

awec

Shefwedfan wrote: »

May I asked how 1 person gets 8/12/16 drinks from the bar back to the other people?

Even with 4 in those cardboard holders you lose a certain amount of it.

That extra finger that Leinster fans have on each hand can be useful at times.

mr_edge_to_you

Yeah_Right wrote: »

It cracks me up how often this topic comes up. If you want a clear unobstructed view of the match, watch it in your living room or pay for a private box.

Equally, if you really want to watch a match while having a load of pints just watch it in the pub or pay for a private box.

Shefwedfan

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

no idea but im seen people take 8 and 12 in the cardboard holders on their own

Sorry but that is impossible....


Unless you fire out all the beer and then head off....


Even with 4 you probably lose about 10% of the beer getting back to the seat....Hence why you an never just have 10 beers at the game, you need 11 to cover off the beer loss on way back to seats:P

The Lost Sheep

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Sorry but that is impossible....


Unless you fire out all the beer and then head off....


Even with 4 you probably lose about 10% of the beer getting back to the seat....Hence why you an never just have 10 beers at the game, you need 11 to cover off the beer loss on way back to seats:P

Ive still seen people spend 50 quid on 8 pints and carry them back on their own even with spilling most of some of the pints...

OldRio

sydthebeat wrote: »

for everyone giving out about the bar

i stood up on the half time whistle, in section 509.
got to the toilet no problem as the toilet door is right beside the section entrance.
waited no longer than 2 minutes for a pee.
got 2 bottles of beer from a hawker (and she was gorgeous !) with absolutely no queue

and was back sitting down on my seat within 5 minutes of standing up.

Never mind all this standing up and down malarkey.

About this hawker?

sydthebeat

OldRio wrote: »

Never mind all this standing up and down malarkey.

About this hawker?

Spanish i think... or latina

a smile to warm the cockles on a cold aviva evening

think a young Eva Longoria

Shefwedfan

sydthebeat wrote: »

Spanish i think... or latina

a smile to warm the cockles on a cold aviva evening

think a young Eva Longoria

Beer googles?

RCK1

Shefwedfan wrote: »

The 10 year ticket is only for internationals for a start.



I have no idea how you haven't heard of the 4 drink rule.I am fiarly sure it is plastered all over the stadium and also the staff tell you as well.


Maybe you went to the wrong stadium?

I go to nearly every game also and never heard of any such rule or see signs plastered anywhere
In fact rather impressively I once seen a guy carry 4 holders of four beers stacked on top of each other without spilling a drop. Maybe youe gaslighting and are thinking of another place?

The Lost Sheep

RCK1 wrote: »

I go to nearly every game also and never heard of any such rule or see signs plastered anywhere
Maybe you are thinking of another place?

Its in Aviva but quite often just isnt enforced...

RCK1

sydthebeat wrote: »

for everyone giving out about the bar

i stood up on the half time whistle, in section 509.
got to the toilet no problem as the toilet door is right beside the section entrance.
waited no longer than 2 minutes for a pee.
got 2 bottles of beer from a hawker (and she was gorgeous !) with absolutely no queue

and was back sitting down on my seat within 5 minutes of standing up.

Also done the same many times. I'm no killjoy and enjoy drinks as much as the next guy. No need at all to to go it multiple times during a game which is two 40 minutes with a long enough break in between

Hurrache

A game of rugby is a long way from 2 x 40 minutes with a long enough break in between.

RCK1

sydthebeat wrote: »

Spanish i think... or latina

a smile to warm the cockles on a cold aviva evening

think a young Eva Longoria

The hackers are actually all good lucking and charming which makes buying off them even easier then the bad pints and service at the bars

RCK1

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Sorry but that is impossible....


Unless you fire out all the beer and then head off....


Even with 4 you probably lose about 10% of the beer getting back to the seat....Hence why you an never just have 10 beers at the game, you need 11 to cover off the beer loss on way back to seats:P

I saw a guy with 4X4 stacked onto top of each other and carried it back with out spilling a drop. The whole section clapped. I have a photo somewhere in my phone

RCK1

mr_edge_to_you wrote: »

Equally, if you really want to watch a match while having a load of pints just watch it in the pub or pay for a private box.

+1 it works both ways!!

The Lost Sheep

RCK1 wrote: »

Also done the same many times. I'm no killjoy and enjoy drinks as much as the next guy. No need at all to to go it multiple times during a game which is two 40 minutes with a long enough break in between

No need says you and half time isnt a long enough break to get in queue, order drink and get back to seat in time for start of second half

Hurrache wrote: »

A a game of rugby is a long way from 2 x 40 minutes with a long enough break in between.

yeah halfs are 50minutes plus per half....

RCK1 wrote: »

The hackers are actually all good lucking and charming which makes buying off them even easier then the bad pints and service at the bars

hackers? And its far from bad service.. its simply rdiculous fast paced. you have several hundred people getting pints in very short period so'll be very rushed...

RCK1

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

No need says you and half time isnt a long enough break to get in queue, order drink and get back to seat in time for start of second half

yeah halfs are 50minutes plus per half....

hackers? And its far from bad service.. its simply rdiculous fast paced. you have several hundred people getting pints in very short period so'll be very rushed...

Auto correct you got what I meant. Still 50 mintues isn't long. I said no need during the game itself especially many times

The staff certainly don't act like it's fast paced taking there time and chatting with other. It took 5 bar staff and 2 bars too get my dad his drink at the weekend and that was at premium level at 4pm.

Shefwedfan

RCK1 wrote: »

Auto correct you got what I meant. Still 50 mintues isn't long. I said no need during the game itself especially many times

The staff certainly don't act like it's fast paced taking there time and chatting with other. It took 5 bar staff and 2 bars too get my dad his drink at the weekend and that was at premium level at 4pm.

Why would the staff rush?

What do people expect? the staff going around on roller skates or something firing out pints and killing themselves?


The only time I seen issues with staff was the first Leinster v Munster match, that was a bit of a disaster, but they had no queue system in place, some bars had too many staff and some had too few etc....sorry to update that was the staff issue, more the stadium hadn't planned right


Since then no issues at all from my point of view....

The Lost Sheep

RCK1 wrote: »

Auto correct you got what I meant. Still 50 mintues isn't long. I said no need during the game itself especially many times

The staff certainly don't act like it's fast paced taking there time and chatting with other. It took 5 bar staff and 2 bars too get my dad his drink at the weekend and that was at premium level at 4pm.

Why are you insisting people not drink or leave their seats during the game. You realise how ridiculous that is?

And you cant compare bars at premium to general level. Very different...

Hurrache

In fairness to the staff, apart from the pre kick off rush I've always been served pretty efficiently, especially considering the number of people there.

Yeah_Right

mr_edge_to_you wrote: »

Equally, if you really want to watch a match while having a load of pints just watch it in the pub or pay for a private box.

Why? I can buy beers at the stadium and take them back to my seat. That's one of the extras available to punters at rugby matches. Are you saying that people shouldn't be allowed to avail of all the services on offer because you find it irritating? Very selfish of you.

Dave_The_Sheep

Used to bring a bag of cans, because I'm a classy bloke. Can't do that anymore, unfortunately.

Don't have a problem much with people going in and out, unless they're really taking the michael.

Ulster game, first game in the purple route area, and I followed the purple route signs. This was a mistake as I ended walking 75% of the way around the stadium. As a result, I was 5 minutes late for kick off. Felt like a right dickhead.

lbc2019

People need to have an awareness of others. There are enough breaks of play to get up and retake your seat at. Some people seem to be oblivious of the match

Cienciano

I think I'm the only person on boards that goes to sporting events and has a few beers. Same with concerts. I think as long as you wait for a break in play to walk down the row there's no problem.

TCM

The Lost Sheep wrote:

Why are you insisting people not drink or leave their seats during the game. You realise how ridiculous that is?

It's not ridiculous at all. I like a couple of pints before & after a game. I and most others would never consider going to get drink while a game is in play.

Shefwedfan

Cienciano wrote: »

I think I'm the only person on boards that goes to sporting events and has a few beers. Same with concerts. I think as long as you wait for a break in play to walk down the row there's no problem.

I think we should put up a poll, who has a pint and who doesn't....I know which camp I am in....


Lovely lovely heineken:P

Shefwedfan

lbc2019 wrote: »

People need to have an awareness of others. There are enough breaks of play to get up and retake your seat at. Some people seem to be oblivious of the match

People need to be aware that I want a pint and quit moaning about it

You don't see me moaning about the amount of people not drinking and getting in my way when I want to go to the bar......;)