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Random Wrestling Thoughts (Part 2)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,522 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    gerrybbadd wrote: »
    One of them is Dio Madden for sure. Wouldn't be surprised to see Roman being unveiled as one of them either

    Who’s the female member then ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,874 ✭✭✭Pentecost


    hynesie08 wrote: »
    It's the 3rd week......

    Really? Genuinely feels like longer to me. Maybe because they're popping up on Raw and Smackdown.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,301 ✭✭✭✭gerrybbadd


    Itssoeasy wrote: »
    Who’s the female member then ?

    Meant to be Mia Yim


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,266 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    dominik dijakovic is supposed to be one of them too


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,157 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    WWE invasions on itself always work out well in the end and make new huge stars.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,266 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    WWE invasions on itself always work out well in the end and make new huge stars.

    Shield 2012 did

    Nexes (2009/10 was it ??) Not so much but Daniel Bryan broke away from it. They tried way to hard remember when they put Vince in a coma and attacked Bret Hart

    Invasion angle of 2001 ??? Suppose Booker T did well from that and a few others


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,298 ✭✭✭The White Wolf


    PTH2009 wrote: »
    dominik dijakovic is supposed to be one of them too

    I noticed there was one or two more big lads in the lineup in the last week.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,479 ✭✭✭✭briany


    Most of the intrinsic value placed on female wrestlers will always reside in their attractive looks whereas with the men you can be pretty hideous or out of shape and still get to the top of the game through charisma and being able to portray good fights. So, underpinning the women's revolution has still been a constant undercurrent of, "There's the girls, now. Aren't they lovely?"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,455 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    Not to get into specific women's looks as eye of the beholder and all that, but while I'm sure it helps, we've also seen ones a lot wouldn't consider attractive in the traditional sense.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,800 ✭✭✭✭beakerjoe


    PTH2009 wrote: »
    Shield 2012 did

    Nexes (2009/10 was it ??) Not so much but Daniel Bryan broke away from it. They tried way to hard remember when they put Vince in a coma and attacked Bret Hart

    Invasion angle of 2001 ??? Suppose Booker T did well from that and a few others

    The Shield wasnt an invasion was it?

    Daniel Bryan made it despite the awful Nexus debacle.

    The Invasion was a disaster. WWE against WCW b team.

    Judging by WWEs Summerslam..... they haven't high hopes for them......


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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,298 ✭✭✭The White Wolf


    The Radicalz had potential as a brilliant invasion angle. If Retribution followed that blueprint of having two potential stars, a Wiley enforcer ala Malenko and a few lower card lads capable of taking a pin while the others remained strong, they'd be doing well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,800 ✭✭✭✭beakerjoe


    The Radicalz had potential as a brilliant invasion angle. If Retribution followed that blueprint of having two potential stars, a Wiley enforcer ala Malenko and a few lower card lads capable of taking a pin while the others remained strong, they'd be doing well.

    But their invasion lasted 2 episodes at best before they 'signed.'


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,057 ✭✭✭ShagNastii


    The Shield definitely had an Invasiony feel to it and I'd easily argue it was one of the most perfectly booked storylines from start to finish in modern day WWE.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,157 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    You learn something new every day Ronda Rousey's mother was a world Judo champion.

    Ronda was only a silver medalists


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,214 ✭✭✭✭B.A._Baracus


    A random thought...
    It's crazy to think how big certain wrestlers are in real life but, while they look good in a WWE ring, their size never truly comes across.

    Point in case take John Cena. Looking at him in a WWE ring you can see the boy works out. No question. But see him in other things such as the new suicide Squad trailer and you truly see how huge the dude is. He is a walking action figure.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,266 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    A random thought...
    It's crazy to think how big certain wrestlers are in real life but, while they look good in a WWE ring, their size never truly comes across.

    Point in case take John Cena. Looking at him in a WWE ring you can see the boy works out. No question. But see him in other things such as the new suicide Squad trailer and you truly see how huge the dude is. He is a walking action figure.

    Then all the travel they do and the still look like that is even more amazing

    Per night only in the ring for max 15 mins but its as physically demanding as it gets. Doing the moves safely is another job in itself, then Gym work and in ring practice

    Cena is in great condition always has tbh, from live events i've seen in the past Randy Orton is huge (doesnt look it from the TV)


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,822 Mod ✭✭✭✭riffmongous


    I thought that about Carlito when he appeared in GLOW, in fact I was only about 50% sure it was him because of how big he looked compared to the normal people


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,689 ✭✭✭sky88


    i remember seeing cody in arrow who ive always considered small enough being so much bigger than the cast he was in with


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,266 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    then you have guys like Mick Foley, Jerry the king Lawler, Dusty Rhodes to name a few who look out of shape and prob never visited the gym much if at all


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,426 ✭✭✭montyrebel


    i met a few wrestlers years ago, sheer size of them is impressive but what stood out for me was Ezekiel Jackson stopping to sign autographs, he had a bunch of bananas in his hand easily 6/7 on the bunch, he put them in his armpit while he took pictures and signed.

    and there is no way you could tell they were there, his arms were just that big he made them disappear


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,298 ✭✭✭The White Wolf


    I remember seeing a photo of Taker and Ricky Hatton and it shocked me. I took for granted just how big these fcukers are. Considering how agile Taker was it was amazing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,157 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    What’s nearly more surprising to me is how tiny the women are in real life.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,157 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    montyrebel wrote: »
    i met a few wrestlers years ago, sheer size of them is impressive but what stood out for me was Ezekiel Jackson stopping to sign autographs, he had a bunch of bananas in his hand easily 6/7 on the bunch, he put them in his armpit while he took pictures and signed.

    and there is no way you could tell they were there, his arms were just that big he made them disappear

    Started re watching LU and Ezekiel was great in it he had something about him he was on big man.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,522 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    What’s nearly more surprising to me is how tiny the women are in real life.

    The majority of women in wwe for example aren’t Sasha and AJ size but yeah it does seem that watching them on TV isn’t a good representation of any wrestlers size.

    Anyway I was rewatching one of my favourite WMs ever in 19 last night and I know I’m watching this nearly 2 decades after the fact but if the match with the rock hadn’t been Austin’s last match the tank was running low so he wasn’t long for in ring action.

    Also, im even more impressed at Brock as a rookie and how well he protected angle given his neck was in shocking condition. And poor Brock hasn’t an clue where he is after the shooting star press.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,214 ✭✭✭✭B.A._Baracus


    Randomly thought about that Reddit user dolphins1925 who used to spoil WWE ppvs from years ago :pac: It's gas looking back. He was just looking at the money going on with the betting odds. I reckon wrestlers and production staff still be placing bets :p

    Kind of mental to take bets on a predetermined sport.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,251 ✭✭✭✭J. Marston


    Ruby with a "normal" makeover...

    mp081u6iqql51.jpg

    Suits her! Don't think it's permanent though.
    Randomly thought about that Reddit user dolphins1925 who used to spoil WWE ppvs from years ago :pac: It's gas looking back. He was just looking at the money going on with the betting odds. I reckon wrestlers and production staff still be placing bets :p

    Kind of mental to take bets on a predetermined sport.

    It's fun to do for the Rumble. Really gets you invested in someone winning it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,455 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    Trying to think who she resembles. Definitely wouldn't be long term considering the amount of tattoo covering involved.

    Speaking of makeup, was just looking her up with no makeup based on that first photo and saw this

    https://wwe-news.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/WWENM.jpg

    Gallery here. Maybe no makeup but they do look photoshopped or it's the lighting

    https://www.wwe.com/gallery/raw-beauty-wwe-superstar-no-makeup-photos#fid-40470274


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,266 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Still a while to go but think Big E for the rumble win


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭Omackeral


    CastorTroy wrote: »
    Trying to think who she resembles.


    D0D8gsvV4AIoDi7.jpg:large


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,455 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    After being made over I mean. Without the makeover she always reminds me of Richard Harmon. After the makeover she actually looks a bit like Erica Cerra.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 773 ✭✭✭TimesArrow


    With the regular cringet Fury/ McIntyre banter on twitter, are they building towards some sort of Saudi match?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,800 ✭✭✭✭beakerjoe


    TimesArrow wrote: »
    With the regular cringet Fury/ McIntyre banter on twitter, are they building towards some sort of Saudi match?

    Fury v McIntyre has potential. Fury can be a great celeb wrestler if hes allowed to by his people. Lots of charidma and can actually talk. I wont hold his feud with Braun against him, but Id say Drew could make a good feud with him.

    They should hold off until fams come back for that one and keep it off the Saudi show..... but using the Saudis may be the only way they can afford him and profit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,455 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    beakerjoe wrote: »
    They should hold off until fams come back for that one and keep it off the Saudi show..... but using the Saudis may be the only way they can afford him and profit.

    One of the words in that line means more to WWE than the other. Can you guess what it is? Hint: It's not "fans"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,157 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    I wonder is that mass murdering Irishman getting involved in someway as Fury's promoter since he has dropped back behind the scenes in the boxing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,933 ✭✭✭hynesie08


    I wonder is that mass murdering Irishman getting involved in someway as Fury's promoter since he has dropped back behind the scenes in the boxing.

    Before the Katie taylor fight, they announced the sponsors... One of them was a scaffold company from Ireland who seemingly don't exist...... Assumed that was him sneaking in the back door.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,800 ✭✭✭✭beakerjoe


    hynesie08 wrote: »
    Before the Katie taylor fight, they announced the sponsors... One of them was a scaffold company from Ireland who seemingly don't exist...... Assumed that was him sneaking in the back door.

    Youd imagine they wouldnt want to promote a fake company no?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,157 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    beakerjoe wrote: »
    Youd imagine they wouldnt want to promote a fake company no?

    I’m sure they would happily take the money from a fake company.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,266 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Bobby Roode as a member of Retribution ??

    The man suddenly disappeared, him and the hacker gone back to their home planets


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,689 ✭✭✭sky88


    PTH2009 wrote: »
    Bobby Roode as a member of Retribution ??

    The man suddenly disappeared, him and the hacker gone back to their home planets

    I think he lives in Canada and can’t get into America or he at least couldn’t for a while


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,800 ✭✭✭✭beakerjoe


    PTH2009 wrote: »
    Bobby Roode as a member of Retribution ??

    The man suddenly disappeared, him and the hacker gone back to their home planets

    Hopefully he stays missing.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,266 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    beakerjoe wrote: »
    Hopefully he stays missing.

    He's not the worst

    Deff one of those whose NXT run was much better than his main roster career. The Glourious entrance was great


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,246 ✭✭✭ThePott


    If it wasn't for his theme music he wouldn't have a character on the main roster.

    Also since his theme is CFO$ maybe it's gonna be changed too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,800 ✭✭✭✭beakerjoe


    Hes very wooden, both in character and in the ring. He was an over entrance theme.... and thats stake now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,689 ✭✭✭sky88


    He’s a great tag team wrestler for me and got lucky enough the theme song catching on


  • Registered Users Posts: 773 ✭✭✭TimesArrow


    I know it’s early days, but I’m starting to think Riddle isn’t going to be a main event star like many ( including myself) Thought he would be.. he seems to have it all ( looks, physique and can go in the ring) but whether it’s bad booking or not, it seems wwe don’t know what to do with him or are losing faith in him. Also, the bro schtick is already very stale and has become worse since he moved to Smackdown. I don’t think he has the ability ( right now anyway) to cut great promos to really push him on to the next level. And of course, there are the Speaking Out allegations.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,808 ✭✭✭Sirsok


    Sid Justice was great. Should have gone over Hogan at Mania 8


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,808 ✭✭✭Sirsok


    Just came across an Irish youtuber called eyepatch wolf.

    He has some great content but his 3 videos in wrestling are just fantastic.

    My non wrestling friends couldnt believe the amount of nuances and subtleties of pro wrestling.

    Well worth a watch, about half an hour each


  • Registered Users Posts: 106 ✭✭LibSuperstar


    TimesArrow wrote:
    I know it’s early days, but I’m starting to think Riddle isn’t going to be a main event star like many ( including myself) Thought he would be.. he seems to have it all ( looks, physique and can go in the ring) but whether it’s bad booking or not, it seems wwe don’t know what to do with him or are losing faith in him. Also, the bro schtick is already very stale and has become worse since he moved to Smackdown. I don’t think he has the ability ( right now anyway) to cut great promos to really push him on to the next level. And of course, there are the Speaking Out allegations.

    Corbin even alluded to it at Payback.
    Sirsok wrote:
    Sid Justice was great. Should have gone over Hogan at Mania 8

    Feel like somebody (maybe Prichard) has explained why before.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,800 ✭✭✭✭beakerjoe


    TimesArrow wrote: »
    I know it’s early days, but I’m starting to think Riddle isn’t going to be a main event star like many ( including myself) Thought he would be.. he seems to have it all ( looks, physique and can go in the ring) but whether it’s bad booking or not, it seems wwe don’t know what to do with him or are losing faith in him. Also, the bro schtick is already very stale and has become worse since he moved to Smackdown. I don’t think he has the ability ( right now anyway) to cut great promos to really push him on to the next level. And of course, there are the Speaking Out allegations.


    People saw how quickly he adapted to pro wrestling from an in ring stamdpoint and saw similarities between him and Angle. He is quick smooth in terms of his ability.

    But Angle, as a personality is head and shoulders above him. Riddle has a long way to go.

    He is hindered by this bro bollox to be fair.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,455 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    So is the Mysterio family WWE's answer to the Nightmare Family? :) Since they always come out together now.
    And were they trying to awkwardly tease something with Aalyah and Murphy?


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